Alright, welcome to the Canary in the Cage podcast. I'm Ron Morgan, my co-host Dave
Havlicek. We're here to entertain you, educate you, and hopefully make you laugh. So what's
up, Dave?
You know, I'm kind of sick of something. Oh, so I'm just sick of talking about it,
Epstein. Let's just let's just drop it. I don't want to talk about it.
Oh, you've been compromised by the deep state. It's not it's not relevant. He was a nasty,
nasty man. Why are we still talking things in Texas are going on. Why are we still bringing
this up? I don't understand. You and Trump hanging out now. Can we just move on?
You seriously you and Trump hanging out now? You guys friends?
I saw the video. I mean, what the fuck is he talking about? So this is more proof that
he's just on the list. He's on the list. He's on the list. He's 100%. I believe he's on
the list. He would have been brought out. No, we don't know about it because they're
all on the list too. Yeah. But they're not going to say it's not it's a fucking nuclear
again. It's the nuclear attack. It's not Oh, let's get rid of Trump. No, this is the nuclear
option. They can't just do it. What is this? I wasn't going to bring this up, but I do
this all the time. George Bush, Epstein, Epstein painting. Oh, yeah, I've seen this. Okay. It's
every was it? Yes, Bush. If we'd open up, we could actually see it. Paint. Oh, no, I didn't
see this one. Okay, wait, what's the what's the ruling here? We got a ruling. We got a
fact check ruling. What do you mean? You're on a fact check site. Oh, unfounded. Okay,
so they don't know. No, this is true. Yeah. Okay, my team, we're trying to figure out the
color of the one I remember is the Bill Clinton photo, right? Clinton address that's that's
straightforward. Yeah. I have a problem with this picture. Why? So Epstein, the rumor was
you had to compromise yourself. So you so you'd be blackmailed if necessary. Okay, what
are these on the grounds here? I don't see we can get a bigger
and Billy blocks, pill bottles, coins. I don't know what is that? I think they're building
blocks. We use maybe we're kids. Okay, Legos and the paper airplane. I mean, he was the
president during 911. Well, when was this painting made allegedly? Well, Epstein was arrested
in what 2018 something like that. So after 911. Okay, I don't know. It's just so basically
it's George Bush. You could have you could have made that so with the airplane and the
blocks, the building blocks, we should play with this kids. Yeah, crumbled on the. Yeah. And I
believe that might be a second airplane. Okay, yeah, that's definitely the second airplane. But
you could they could have made that ironically or whatever. I don't know. I just it just
bothers me. I don't know why it bothers me. It just bothers me. I mean, I could see myself
having a painting like that, because like fuck that guy. Oh, no, no, no, I agree. It's just
why why why that theme? Why not? Because it's George because that's what you would do. Yeah, I
like you might have a painting of Obama. Holding hands, you're sucking the dick or holding hands
with a man or you know, a linebacker man, right? Like, mean his wife, whether it's true or not,
it's not relevant. It's just that's the painting you would want. Yeah, I know. But to get on the
topic here. What the fuck are they taught like now they're saying there was never any let's
play the video. It was never okay, you got a video of this. Yeah. Oh, the yeah, the one I was
just saying, yeah, we have the sound on. Hold on, hold on. No, it wasn't okay.
And release yesterday, Jeffrey, I just see it left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest
ones is whether he ever worked for a American perform intelligence agency. The former labor
secretary who was Miami U. S. Attorney, Alex Costa allegedly said that he did work for intelligence
agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did and also could you say why there was a minute
missing from the jailhouse state? Are you still talking about Jeffrey that same guy's been talking
about for years? You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And
people still talking about this guy, this creep. That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the
time on it? I don't give a fuck about her. She's fucking stupid. She needs to quit her job. She
needs to be fired. Bonnie needs to go buy by but we're not talking about Bonnie right now. That's
Trump. I've been supportive of Trump. Even I even no, no, no, because even with the Iran thing,
I was against it. I don't think he should have did it. But it was his campaign promise.
Trying to tell you. No, no. But if you go back before he's elected, he said Iran cannot become
nuclear. So that was audit. So we when we voted, but they never even tried to be. I don't know if
they were nuclear. There's no way I could know that. I don't think they were. But my point is when
you went and you pushed in the little button for Trump, I didn't do that. Well, I can sleep at night.
Well, no, no, but you had to know that Iran was on his list. So I don't agree with what he did. I
believe it was an act of war. But I go, Hey, we when people voted for Trump, they voted for the
possible attack of Iran. They did. Okay. No, they voted for no new wars. Well, but but no, no, honestly,
see, this is where you got to be careful because it worked out for him. Maybe we don't know yet.
We got the piece of grip right away. That doesn't mean shit. They're not bombing each other.
We went over this like it took two months for World War One to break out after the assassination.
Iran is not going to do Iran's a paper. They don't know shit. They have no shit about shit.
Okay. Okay. That's fine. But the reality was it doesn't have to be Iran. It could be a
Russia gets involved. That's not my point. He brought it up on the campaign. So you had to
know that was an option on the table on it. But he also brought up Epstein on his. Yeah. So this
is a campaign promise. Yeah. That he is breaking. Okay. So this is my phone for this. For what?
For voting for these idiots. Oh my God.
And stop falling for it. Trump not done a good job thus far. No. Okay. What are your problems
with them? You just listed a major one. I read your two. I agree. I read some major problems.
The big beautiful bill is fucking stupid. Why is it big? We've already gone over this. It
spends more fucking money. It creates more fucking debt. We're going to be more.
It's now 37 trillion and seven trillion. Okay. Okay. Massey. Calm down. Massey. No, I still support
Massey. 100%. He is my favorite. He did doge. Okay. But and then I was all on board and then
now Congress is like now we're not going to do that. We're just we're just going to we're going
to vote for spending all this money again. No, no, no. The reconciliation act
passed the House and now it's in the Senate. But I they're not going to do shit. I agree. They're
just talking about we're going to fund NASA more. Like what do we need fucking NASA? What?
You don't even believe we went to the moon. What do we need NASA for? We don't need NASA. That's
right. So why are they funding it? We have to get on the bus. Why are you taking my money and giving
it to them? Right. You don't even get on the bus to it. So I have a question. So right now,
we have two billionaires fighting. Yeah. In this work in this country. Could we could this break
out into like, um, no, this is all fake. No, no, no. The good or bad. I took a money. We think
it's not throwing stacks of cash in each other. It's fake. No, come on. It's fake. Work with me
here. Yeah, I'm sorry. Elon, you're faking. I'm calling you out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Elon. I don't want to come. He's possibly some spectrum. Let's just say that's fine. But this
is all bullshit. This is not the first time he's been off the rails. I understand. But this whole
thing is fake. This is a pro wrestling stunt. And here's the reason I know. Oh, if Elon was serious,
he would have taken over the libertarian party because we have ballot access in like 48 states.
He all he would have to do is fund our campaigns. You don't have to do signatures. You don't have
to petition. You don't have to do any of this bullshit. But when he goes and creates a brand new
party, all his wealth, he could spend every last dollar he owns, he will not make a fucking dent.
So you actually think Elon Musk is aware of the libertarian party? Of course he is. Why? Dude,
what are you talking about? Like, you think he doesn't see he's reposted our shit? Okay. What are
you talking about? Of course, he knows libertarian party. Okay. So maybe he knows us too well then.
No, I'm not getting my finger. No, dude, he could easily take us over. I would be all on board. I
would fucking go to the next convention. Absolutely get him in there. And like I would say, hey,
fund my fucking campaign, dude. But what the hell? Oh, you want his money? Not a one is money,
because I don't like, I'm not going to fucking like buy a new house or car or whatever. Like,
I don't give a shit about that. You're not going to do the black lives matter or get money. No,
I want my billboard next to Dina Titus' billboard pointing and saying this cunt is corrupt. Right?
I'm suing you for for violating my first amendment. I want this all on the news. I'm fairly confident
if you run for Congress again, and she's got a billboard up, I'm fairly kind of we can crowdsource
the money for that fucking sign. I want to use the word cunt. But I want them all over town,
all over the fucking whole district. So you want your own billboard with your picture?
Can we put like a cartoon version of you? I don't care. I don't want to scare the children.
Fine, we have one right here. And then over here, we have to be the tightest here like this cunt's
crazy. Whatever. I mean, but the point is like this is why I know it's fake because you could easily
do what Elon is claiming he wants to do by taking over the libertarian party. But what's so new party
thing, it's just all fake. It's it can't go anywhere. The way the system is set up is they will not
allow new people to break in. There's too much baggage in the libertarian party. No, there's not.
No, there's not. We had a hostile takeover from the Democrats. So what? Oh, shit, you admitted it.
Okay, we don't fuck that. We're live. We are fucking live. We're not live. We're recording.
He admitted it. No, okay. I'm saying like so what if that's what you think? Like so what if that's
what he thinks happened? But that's it doesn't matter. Dude, you can take it over. Libertarians
don't even vote for libertarians. Yes, we would. What if we if they ran any?
I like okay, but I want to this is all we're getting off topic because I still want to address
the epsiode. Oh, we're going back to Trump. Trust me. I'm not just Trump with the whole Epstein.
So what they've been trying to say is over the number was an Epstein list. Have you seen this?
Yeah. So now here's the funny like I said, what Trump said, well, I but I've always said that the
media lies through the truth. Right. And this is actually an example of that. So there is no
piece of paper that says client list with a list of Epstein client that doesn't exist. Right. If you
go look at the the seized evidence when they raided his island, there's no such document like that.
It's in the flight logs. The flight logs have already been released. Like we've had those for years.
Not all. Yes, we had. Is Tom Hanks on there? I don't know. Is John Roberts on there? It doesn't
matter. I don't think we've had the full flow. It doesn't do like those have been released. So
what we have is like fucking entire desks worth of payments and contracts and then all this bullshit.
Right. There's no like list. But if you go through all that shit, you can compile a list. Right.
Right. No, that's what we're trying to that's what we want released. Right. Like so when they say,
Oh, there's no list. What are you talking about? Right. There's no piece of paper with a list.
Okay, fine. That's not what I want. I want you to release all the shit release everything.
And they'll also say, Oh, well, we can't release it because they're child porn. Okay, don't release
the child porn. Blurred. Blur out. Release everything else. What the fuck? Like there was a
there's a picture they took. They found a whole bin full of hard drives. Right.
And I don't know how much space that was because back then hard drives had less space but but
let's say a couple of terabytes wasn't that small. No, it was a huge bin. No, but hard drives back.
We're talking like 20. No, yeah, it was a couple of terabytes, most likely. And
let's say 80% of that was child porn. Show us the 20%. What are you doing? Like, don't just
fucking lock it up and say, Oh, we can't show this because secret top secret blah, blah, blah.
No, like, give us the list and then we will make the client list from all that data. Right. And
then we can go after those people because like what they're saying essentially is that he was guilty
of trafficking and sex prostituting and and slaving and slaving little girls for nobody.
He had no client. No, that brings up a whole other valid another point. What was he in jail for?
Right. What's milk? Whatever. Melania. I don't know her. I can't pronounce her name.
Just like Maxwell. Yeah, that one. What is what's she in jail for?
I don't know the charges exactly. But I mean, I was in trafficking. Yeah, probably.
Yeah. What was she trafficking? Who does trafficking to? I don't know this.
So let's do this. Who do you blame in all this?
I well, I don't I don't I don't even know because I actually blame Trump.
Well, no, because this happened before Trump was even no, no, no, no, no. What I'm talking about
is the release of the documentation. Oh, well, yeah, yeah, the current issue. Yes. So what he
basically comes down to Pam Bondi or Trump because because cash fatality.
Right. But she's Dave Banzino and catch Patels boss as well. So it comes to her or him.
Again, I've covered this before. He's not really good with follow up. He says something. Yeah.
And it sounds great. And it should work out. But everyone goes,
fuck that. I'm not doing that. Here's another thing. I think they're telling the truth about
not having it. I think like it's all in Israel. It's all been shipped to Israel. It's in a vault
in the Mossad building or whatever the fuck. And like, we can't even release it anymore. We don't
have it anymore. Do I have the JD Vance? I don't think so. Now you don't you're really
it's about cloud cheating. Don't tip me off. So yeah, that's why they can't release it because
they don't have it anymore. No, I disagree. I disagree. Hold on. Let's do this. I'm telling you.
Okay, we don't have it. Okay. So JD Vance is the vice president of this country. Allegedly.
Kind of sort of maybe sort of. I don't know. Oh, Jesus Christ. There it is. Right. No,
there's actually a video. No. Seen list. Seriously, we need to release the fc list.
Seriously, we need to release the fc list. Seriously, we need to release the fc list. Seriously,
we need to release the fc list. Seriously, we need to release the there's nothing. They have nothing.
So as vice president of the United States, he says we should release something that we don't
have. Yeah. You don't think he has knowledge? No. You think they just let him walk in there?
No, they don't. Like you can't just say, Oh, I'm the vice president. Let me into the evidence room.
No, they have to fucking allegedly keep chain of custody and keep eyes out. No, no, it was all
on Pampani's desk as a. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. As a still believe that as a well still believe that
there's a reason I'm saying this as of February, they were on her desk, but there was nothing
on her desk. She lied. It's all bullshit. Oh, she lied. Okay. It's all bullshit. It's all gone.
They fucking they have big. Do you think your desk is? I don't know. I mean, it's just state
of death. Right. So I mean, was it piled so high that it took them till July? Well, I assume they
would have like a report, right? Like a general report. Yeah. And she couldn't read that report.
It doesn't exist. She couldn't figure that was so what happened between February and now
she lied and now her lie is exposed. There was fire. The data is gone. I'm telling you. So like
the Mossad came into the FBI building at two in the morning and and they had, you know, someone
on their desk like ninjas. Maybe I don't know. But but they said, you're going to give us that shit.
And here's here's the order from Obama or Trump or whatever the fuck. Well, no, no, this is a Trump
Biden thing because he was the one that got the document. I didn't even was rated in like 2018.
Yeah, something like that. So that's that's Trump's president. Yeah. So Obama on this one has to deal
with it. I'm sure he was fucking little boys there. They had a signed order from whoever the fuck.
My opinion, by the way. And the FBI said, okay, here's here's the room. Take what you take what
you want. They took it all out. They flew it out to Israel. And that's why every single person
sucks the dick of Israel. Because all their fucking evidence is there and they can release it at any
time. So like when you say, oh, they would have released it to prevent Trump. No, they wouldn't
know because they're on the list too. But Israel, they're not on the list, right? Because they made
the list. Epstein was their fucking asset, right? And they made the list. Now they have it all. And
now they can just say, oh, you don't want to play along. Oh, well, here you go. Here's this piece
of evidence. See, so cat turd is on the whole thing of this fucking no, no, no, I'm against him
of this. For this opinion, for his opinion on this as well. Now, I don't have any proof of
any of this. This is just a theory. Yeah. Don't come and kill me. I'm not suicidal. This is just
my opinion. And if he shoots himself in back of the head, it's completely legit. A suicide.
So cat turds like, no, no, I've known for a while there was no list.
How fucking do you know? You don't know shit. Well, he's not on the inside of it.
He's fat, runneck idiot. He's personally, he says he's personal friends with Bungino and
cats. So fucking what? So what? Yeah, right. But he's already like, well, we already knew there
was nothing. I don't believe that. Go through his own tweets, motherfucker. I know. I know.
I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.
What a clown. That guy's such a funny clown, man.
He's, yeah, he's actually, yeah, there's a lot of shit going on with him right now, too.
But I believe the evidence is there. I believe we still possess it.
Nope.
So when Trump was in office his first term, he wanted to release the Epstein list.
And he was counseled. I forget who it was. It was either Bob Barr or somebody else that you
cannot release this list. It will destroy the world. And Trump goes, okay, I won't do it.
What, what, what, what list? This is what Trump said in an interview. So what's he talking about?
Oh, well, again, like everyone, everyone assumes that we have like a piece of paper that says the
list. I'm not saying a piece of paper, but we have, we get a report that surmises what went down,
that Tom Hanks was fucking little kids, not the Tom Hanks you know from TV, but the Tom Hanks from
wherever. They, well, for some reason I pick on that guy for some reason, he just pisses me off.
But these are the stupid games that they play, right? They say, oh, release the list, release the
list. And then like, if some CNN guy says, well, actually there's no list, got you, then they,
when they say, no, we talking about the report of the data. And then like five years later,
when Trump finds out, oh, shit, I'm on the list too. Oh, there's actually no list. What are you
talking about? We look at those, look at the evidence.
He's on that list. He's on the list. That's right. You and I disagree. We're about to.
Dude, I didn't used to think so. That motherfucker's on the list.
Okay. So, okay, so we have, we have, let's go with their story. One, Pam Bondi is a
fucking horrible liar. She is, she is, she, she cannot lie for shit. She cannot communicate for
shit because she's, she doesn't know what, get rid of her. Resign, fire her.
He's not going to. No, she's, she's, she's the person.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Round worker prediction. She'll be gone by the mid into
August. When Congress is on break, she's gone. She'll, she'll maybe be gone on permanent vacation
in the Caribbean with the, with the two guards that were guarding Epstein. She'll be the,
that's what she'll be gone to. No, she will, uh, uh, so we fired or resign.
Uh, personal reasons, you know, she's got a lot going on in her life and whatever.
By the way, like, where did this footage come from? Because they said there was no footage.
Oh, the, the, the jail cell? Yeah. No, so they've always claimed, well,
because the cameras were down. They, yeah, but then Bon Gino came out and said, oh, we have
footage that proves that they're going to kill him. And the video footage, well, we talked about
this last week, right? We didn't. That came out within, within the two episodes. Oh, we didn't
bring the map up. Oh my God. I think I'm dreaming about our podcast. This is all new. This is all
new. Wow. I might, I might literally legitimately be dreaming about our podcast, which, which
really bothers me is you're in my fucking dreams. Fuck. Can't avoid me, bitch. So the angle of that
camera is, it's very unclear on what it actually shows because I thought I brought the map up.
No. Holy fuck. This didn't come out till during the week. So Epstein was killed in the second floor
cell. I said killed by the way. And the camera was on another second story landing.
It's unclear if the only way to access that cell block is the door that was on the camera.
I don't believe that's the only access point. Okay. So it's because it doesn't even show the
stairwell that went up to his cell, which this is where Bon Gino, see this is where Kat, Kat
turns like, well, Bon Gino would lie because he left a $6 million job, which is his podcast.
By the way, apparently he made $6 million on his podcast. Okay. Can we make a dollar?
Can we make two dollars? No, because to do that, you would have to start saying there's no
Epstein list. So no, no, because no, if you listen to Bon Gino, he was there's an Epstein list.
But it was all fake. He was all controlled. Well, no, I think because Kat turns like,
he, he's an honest man and I'm not saying he's not. I'm not. I know I actually believe Bon Gino's
an honest guy. You cannot build a giant podcast following by being an honest man.
Why not? Because the advertisers will not give you anything.
Oh, I disagree. Because eventually someone's going to come to you and say, hey buddy,
we got a million dollars if you say this. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know if he'll compromise himself. I don't see you. Dude, how do you make $6 million?
What are you talking about? You don't make $6 million if you don't do what they fucking tell you to.
So what I'm getting at is Kat turns like, Bon Gino doesn't lie. Bon Gino doesn't lie.
He's on. Well, what Kat turns is, is not real, not realizing is
what if he's been threatened? Because if you look at the fucking video of him in
the cashmattel talking about, they, they look like fucking brisers of war. Right.
So it's like, stop thinking about what's right in front of you and think about what you see.
He doesn't think that's not his job. He's a report by Trump.
Tell him to because he's a dishonest liar too. They're all fucking liars.
You don't get to following like this if you're not a liar.
I mean, I was I'm calling all you fuckers out. The quartering. Come after us. Even the people
like 180 dollars. Is that the, the, the quartering? Is that the guy that has those two women on?
No. You probably don't know the quartering. But I heard it. They're all fake. They're all
bullshit. What's the host's name? The quartering. What's the name's Jeremy?
What's he look like? Like you kind of. Oh, he's sexy and good looking.
Yo, he has glasses. He has glasses. I'm pretty sure I've seen the quartering.
Probably, but like it's just, it's all the same bullshit. It's all recycled fucking bullshit.
And they just, they do, they do what they're told because the advertisers tell them that you can't,
you can't say this, you can't say vaccine this, you can't say that. You can, you can maybe go a
little here and you'd be an edgy because our customers love edgy. So you can't say that.
You think the coffee company is like, don't talk about the vaccine? Of course. No. Dude.
They send the fucking contract, right? Like they give you a giant contract and then like you,
your lawyer reads over and says, okay, here's what you can't talk about. And then you sit in there
and you want to sign it and they have a check, like a million dollar check. So they say, okay,
you can sign it. So or you can be honest, which one do you want to do? So our official story is
that we will never be,
because we won't sell ourselves out. Not doing this. No. Okay. Well, that's all. We will be
more popular, we'll be much more popular, much wealthier. Dude, I, do you have any idea how many
fucking like bullshit fuckheads I get in the comments saying, hey, I work for this fucking
media company, like we'll, we'll get you out to like 100,000 listeners. It just, just give me a
call. I'm like, it's all fucking, like, I don't, I just didn't wear the shits. But like, wait,
you're the one stopping us from becoming famous. I don't want this. I want to be famous. I'm
walking down Fremont Street. You fucking you're Ron Morgan for the care of these idiots out.
I would go, yes, I am. Yeah. And then you can, you can seek these idiots out. You can sign your
bullshit contract and I'll sit here and fucking correct you every time. And you still won't get
the money. I just want the free coffee. You'll have to fire me from the podcast. Was it 70,
76 coffee? I just want free fucking coffee. Dude, those people, they sold out Kyle Rittenhouse,
those coffee people. No, no, that was a black rifle. I just talked about black rifle. I'm
going to 77. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, because well, there's black rifle coffee company and then there's
there's another very similar name. Oh, God. And it's not the same as black rifle, black rifle socks.
They're all bullshit though. I don't know. I just want free coffee. I don't want a dollar. I don't
want $20. Give me a fucking pound of coffee every week. Bullshit. What the fuck do we get going down
here? So, so I, I believe Bajino and Patel. I believe they because because I do believe they're
they're honest Americans. I believe they've been they've been conflicted or compromised. I don't
know the right word on what you're doing. But it's easy to do that with dishonest people. So it's
not like the reason why Thomas Massey is not on the F team list is because Thomas Massey doesn't
fuck little kids. He doesn't want to fuck little kids. Okay. These people want to fuck little kids
or whatever. Whatever their kink is, they have some kink. I guarantee you, they have something
that the rest of society would look down on them for. And the only people that can provide that
thing are creeps like Jeffrey Epstein, right? So they go and they and they fucking like they don't
go to Epstein directly because they want to start out on us. They want to be like, well, I just want
to get my rocks off. I'm just gonna go to the local guy. But actually the local guy local guy.
Yeah, look, everyone's got a little guy. I don't answer questions.
The kids fall over trucks for you. But the local guy works for Epstein, right? You go up the chain
and there's Epstein. So the local guy says, Hey, man, you're a good customer. I can get you some
better deals. I can get like, go to my boss, right? And then they go up the chain. And then
eventually, you're in Epstein's office. And he's showing you a tape of you fucking a little kid
now you're gonna you're gonna play ball. You're gonna play ball. Yeah, I don't I don't believe that.
But they all do it. They all do it. That video doesn't exist. Yeah, they all then why are they
why are they so afraid? What could they do to you that makes you so afraid you're gonna kill me?
So fucking what? They're families. So what? No, that's it's a big deal. Look at me a fucking
brand. You're families that's the arm your fucking house. Dude, you're the FBI. You can have armed
guards 24 seven. What are you doing in college? What are you gonna do? Put on guards on them?
Yes. You you make six million a year. You can't afford bodyguards. Fuck you.
The body. Okay, but I'm not getting into this whole thing. All I know is I don't like what
Trump said. I think the upside should exist. I wish banjino and yeah, it's in Israel. We can't
get to it. It's in Israel. No, I don't believe it is. I'm sorry it is. I believe we have. Okay,
so here's the thing. I believe I do believe that Supreme Court, at least one Supreme Court Justice
on that list. John Roberts. So yeah, I choked a little bit. It made it sound like I said John
Roberts, but I don't think I did because I can't prove it. Fucking pedophile. There may be more
on there as well because if you look the Supreme Court, okay, so I've never really cared who the
president was. I just they're the face man of the country. They just go out and whatever,
shake babies and kiss hands. It's a play on words.
But they, in certain in 2020, they were acting different.
No, they weren't. They were. Okay, Canada Supreme Court decided what cases they want to take. So
they can punch two cases. Yeah. Okay. So they can punch certain cases that they just don't want to
deal with. Well, no, what's the exception on that? It's more like they agree with the
inferior court. So they're just not going to take the appeal. They can punch for whatever reason.
Yeah. Because they used to punch every gun case. Yeah. Because they knew how they would have to,
yeah. And they never took the cases. Right. Because they didn't want to say what they had to say.
Okay. So there's only a few cases they can't, they shouldn't be able to punch. That would be
anything in DC. Okay. Because that is, that's a judicial. Right. There's no lower court to
go start with. A state to state lawsuit. Right. That solely falls upon the Supreme Court. Right.
And they were putting those cases. Huh. And the cases I'm talking about is Texas started it
with a lawsuit against the blue states about how they counted their balance and how they
assessed stuff. And a bunch of other states joined right in. Yeah. And the Supreme Court punted them
all. Huh. There was no other court that could hear that case. Right. Except the Supreme Court.
Right. And they punted it. Well, that's not with the I don't know if that's in their purvey or purvey
purview. I haven't studied that part of the constitution very closely. But they should have
taken the Texas lawsuit. We can look it up real quick. It's a pretty small document. What do you
mean? Just read the constitution. Well, it's not it's the the Supreme Court is the only judicial
branch that can rule on a lawsuit from state to state. Right. But it's it doesn't mean. Hold on.
So my point is that they punted those cases. They were compromised. And I believe they were on
the FC not unless it was one or two or three or four of them were.
Um, we don't want dead air here. So I guess I'll just start making shit up until you're done reading.
Judicial power shall extend to all cases in law and equity arising under the Constitution. The
laws of United States trees made which shall be made under the authority to all cases affecting
the between states and the citizens of other states between two different states, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. Yeah, it doesn't say they have to take a case, which I don't know what the what
there's no other means though. If there's no other court that can hear the case,
yeah, they should be forced to take it. That's not necessarily true because like that.
I want to sue a ham sandwich. Yeah, the court can throw your the court can throw you.
You're not hear me. No, they don't. They could read your complaint. Say this is not a valid
complaint. Goodbye. Okay. But Texas was a valid complaint. And the other thing you shoved off.
Well, no, it's whether Texas was right or not. I'm not saying they were right. I'm saying they
had the evidence and they had that's not what makes a valid complaint. Like a valid complaint.
It has to be like, it's hard to determine state to state, but like for a personal matter, let's
let's say, like, you wear pink shirts, and I don't like your pink shirt. So I sue you.
So I ran a big fucking complaints to the court. I say, well, Ron's pink shirt offends me.
The court can say, well, what's actually your injury? You have no injury. You can't. There's
no case here. Goodbye. Well, but in my case, the ham sandwich hurt me. It touched me in Arizona.
The ham sandwich should not touch me. Right. So what was what was Texas's claim of injury? No,
I don't know. It could be one. I don't know. It's been five years. It was basically around the
ballot counting and how they counted ballots. Right. But they had evidence. But it's not
evidence. It's not, dude, it's not evidence has nothing to do with it. It has to be this state's
actions injured Texas's sovereignty in this specific way. Because Biden won and Trump lost,
that was the damage. You misrepresenting your votes. You miscounted your vote. You let the
legal vote. You counted wrong. I mean, there was, I mean, we all know, I mean, you do know 2020 was
not a fair election, right? Are you still stuck on that? It's not, it was a fair election. I'm
saying it wasn't fair, but I still don't know that it wasn't fair to the point that it's not.
The evidence is piling up. Just look at it. It's not really. Oh, it's nothing new has come out.
A lot of shit has new has come out. No, it hasn't. Yeah, it has. It's not reading cat-turt. Like,
I don't. Okay. Within a few months, I'm sure it's going to come out and
it's there is no it's not. I believe there's been like, like, Trump won Wisconsin, Trump won Georgia.
No, he didn't get the fuck out of here. Wait, you really think sleepy Joe got elected?
It doesn't matter if I think he really, I think like, there's no way he won Wisconsin. Like, Trump
did not win Wisconsin. Have you seen any talk to people from Wisconsin? The cheese heads? Yeah,
like, there's friggin nuts. No, I don't know. Whatever. But my point is, I believe there was
some documentation that somebody went to the Supreme Court with and said, Oh, you want to hear
the Texas case? Is this you and his picture fucking this little boy? And Stringboard just goes,
yeah, it looks like me. Oh, so you want to hear the Texas case? Oh, no, I don't want to hear the
Texas case. It's possible. I don't know. Oh, this country is so fucked. Okay, well, I got some
good news for you. Okay, let's get off this. And it actually has. But wait, wait, I do say, I will
say what Trump said. And that is the worst possible thing he could have said as president. I do not
support what he said. I still support him, because I still want this country to succeed.
But what that reporter was asking about was people who fuck and rape children. And we're just
going to discount that. And we're going to throw that off the sidelines. Well, he's a disgusting
human being. Yes, he is a disgusting human being. And we need to find the rest of the disgusting
human beings. And apparently Trump doesn't want to. Because he's on the list. He's on the list.
He's on the list. I can't, I can not. He's on the list. That's fine. We, as you know, we disagree
a lot. So let's get to the good news. And it actually comes from the courts, the very courts
that we shit out all the time. Okay, so they finally, you know, found a nut that squirrel
found a nut, the blind squirrel. Yeah. Do you remember the name Douglas Mackie?
Why does that sound familiar? I know you I know you know the name, but you don't know why. So
he was convicted. I think it was 2016 election. Oh, he was the meme maker. He was the meme. Well,
he didn't make them actually. He got them from 4chan or something. Yeah. So he took memes from
4chan about like, Hey, you can text a vote and text this number and you can vote for Hillary Clinton.
And he put them on Twitter. He's going to be a rich motherfucker. He, he got convicted for conspiracy
to prevent or to prohibit right to vote or something bullshit. Right. So what was his jail
sentence? It was like 17 months. It was like seven months. Yeah. Okay. So he's already time served.
Yeah. Like he's already served it. But his conviction has been vacated. Yeah. By a judge,
by a truck. Right. That's important. He wasn't pardoned. Yeah. He was, he appealed. And the funny
thing is the reason the appeal went through. Did you read this? No, I've heard about it. I've heard
whispers about it. I haven't read it. Okay. So like the conviction was conspiracy to violate other
people's right to vote. Yeah. Now what is required for a conspiracy? A plan with other people
to do wrong. So if you go on the internet and download memes and then post those memes to Twitter,
who have you planned to do anything with? Well, I mean, with the internet, I mean,
you don't know what other foot traffic they had of his internet. I obviously do. There was all in
the court. Oh, well, in the case. Okay. So I'm sure conspiracy did not exist. No, that's
that's the reason there was nobody else. He did this by himself. There's nobody else. And no,
dude, I was posting memes like, and I was making these fucking memes. Republicans vote on Tuesday,
Democrats vote on Wednesday. That kind of shit. You know, I was just doing stupid shit. Yeah. But
that's why they got Facebook. I don't do fuck on Facebook anymore. I might be like, oh, that's
a nice tomato you grow to your garden. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that cucumber. I don't use this shit. It's
wasted time. Okay, I've lived in like what six different states. I've got friends. I don't want
to talk to those people. The people I want to talk to, I'm on private messaging apps with. Yeah,
please. I don't really want to talk to. I just want to compliment their tomatoes. I don't want to
know those people. Like, I don't want them to know me. No, no, he's not getting like he's already
served his time. So he probably will get a lot of hopefully he gets a lot of numbers. I'm pretty
sure there's lawyers at his front door, but like signed here. Here's what I don't get is why where
was his defense lawyer during the case saying your honor conspiracy requires two more people. Where's
the other people? Okay, where was that? Okay, but hold on. It was a sellout. And this is why he's
going to make millions because look at the Trump trials. Yeah, they weren't legit. No, they weren't
real. Right. The law did that. Defense attorneys are not bringing up these obvious points. Like
so. Sixers. I'll give you an example. So at the Trump trial, the first thing that judge does is
read the charges against you. Okay, they had none. Shut the fuck up. Okay, the judge reads the
the the you know, you got me all fucking flustered here. The judge reads the charges against you
and says, Do you understand these charges late before you? And what did Trump say?
Yes, I understand. Why would you say that? The charges were bullshit. I know I don't understand
your honor. How is this a felony? Please explain to me. Okay, and then the judge could say, Well,
it's a felony because you use these business dealings to cover up other crimes. Oh, okay. What
were the other crimes? Oh, we don't have to tell you. Okay, well, I don't understand the charges
you're right. But he didn't say that. He said, Yes, I understand. So they have his consent on the
fucking record. Yes, I understand the charges. So let's go Jay Sixers. Okay. Did I do process?
Right. But again, they do the same shit. They get some public defender or some fucking Ricky
Dinkai on the phone book, and they don't know jack shit, and they don't fucking advocate for you.
And these people are dumb as fucking rocks. And they can't fucking do this. They don't listen to
the Canary in the Case podcast, where we give not legal advice, but advice on how to deal with
legal issues. And they just fucking sit there and they take it. They fucking take about the
ass. They don't know the law. They don't even read the law that's being charged against them.
And they don't say, Wait a minute, I was at Campy Guilty of this. He was targeted to be arrested.
And he was going to jail no matter what his lawyer did. That's not necessarily true. Because
it comes out of the jury. The jury said guilty because he fucking sat there and his lawyer didn't
bring up any of these fucking points. Juries can be compromised. Dude, if you don't bring up the
points that favor your defense, what do you expect the jury's going to say?
So, okay, so the charges were, sir, you, you reposted a meme. That said this.
Yeah. You're, you're, you committed to crime.
Those aren't the charges. The charges are conspiracy to violence of what else is right to vote.
And then you would say to the judge, well, judge, uh, what's the conspiracy? Oh, it's when two or
more people plan an act and then, oh, okay, well, where's the other people? I don't see, I'm here
by myself. Where's the other people? No, no, okay. He didn't say that. With that defense,
there were more, two more, more people who know he was admitted to not making the meme.
Uh-huh. He reposted the meme. Yeah. That's two people. No, it's not because he just downloaded
a random meme he found on the internet. That wasn't two people planning. That's somebody else made.
Yeah. But there was no planning. There was no coordination. There was no cotton.
Did nobody even talk to each other? He should have put you jail. It's the first
minimum violation and he deserves to be have million dollars. Okay, but like stop letting
them do this to you. Fucking learn the law. It's not complicated most of the time, especially
criminal. Criminal law is the fucking simplest thing ever. Dude, like, have you ever lived in a
small town? No. Um, they control, there's a lot of, there's a lot of shit that goes on that
all you have to do is read the fucking law in open court. It's on tribes, on transcripts.
A lot of them are recording it nowadays. It doesn't, it doesn't work. Yes, it does work.
Dude, I see videos all the time of a good lawyer, of a good lawyer. Shut the fuck up.
So video of a good lawyer in court saying, uh, your honor, uh, the statute says this
and my client allegedly did that. How does this act, uh, get covered by that statute?
And the judge looks at it says, huh, you're right. Case dismissed. It happens all the fucking time.
You just need a lawyer. It's not a fucking retard. And the other way happens all the time as well.
Not really. But show me those videos. I don't see those videos.
Well, a lot of those judges will ban cameras in their courtrooms.
Okay. Show me the transcripts. Show me any, because every time I see someone get railroaded,
like Mackie or Trump or Jason, like I read the transcripts and I'm like,
you're fucking moron. Why did you let him get away with this?
How many?
Like Trump said himself, yes, your honor, I understand the charges. No, you don't.
Why are you lying? You're lying in court. You can be burgery.
So explain the J6 or Sturley.
Well, which one? There's like a thousand of them. I don't know.
They weren't brought to trial. Their due process was ignored. They were in court
awaiting trial for like four years.
Uh-huh.
Is it that a violation of our constitution right there?
Probably.
Yeah. No one cared. It was the, the fix was in. The judges agreed and juries can be compromised.
Okay. The file for Habie's corpus. Did any of them file for Habie's corpus?
I don't know.
Exactly. You don't know. That means they probably didn't because they're following all the fucking
idiots. And here's the problem. Here's the real problem, right? So to be a lawyer, to practice law,
to represent other people, you have to pass the bar and get these association bullshits,
right? That's where the compromise comes in, right? Because to be a defense attorney,
you have to sign on to their bullshit. You have to play by their rules.
So like, I'll give you an example. A defense attorney cannot say
by the way, the jury has the right of nullification. You can't say that. But if you defend yourself,
you can say what the fuck you want, right? By the way, jury, ladies and gentlemen, the jury,
if you don't believe this law is just, you can vote not guilty.
You can say that as a prosaided defendant.
In the Ditty Trial, I brought up the fact they sold the video of him beating the hell out of that girl.
Wait, what are we talking about? The Ditty Trial. Oh, yeah, Diddy. Diddy. Diddy. The Diddler. P. Diddy.
That was a state charge. That was a state crime. Okay. That was not a federal crime. Okay.
They had no right to show that. That's not, dude, you don't understand the rules about it.
Like, you're just making shit up. Yeah, like, you saw- What the fuck are you talking about?
Dude, you can't just say they have no right to show a video in court. You don't know why they
showed the video. What was relating to, you don't know any of this because you didn't watch the trial,
read the trial. It doesn't matter. Yes, it does matter. You cannot show something. Yes, you can.
Yes, you can if it's fucking relevant to the case. How is that relevant? Read the case and find out,
dumbass. Don't sit here and argue about it. Read the case. They let it happen. See, like,
you don't know. You say, I don't know. I don't know how the rules work. I don't know the law.
If you were a J6er, you'd be fucking rotten in prison right now because you don't know shit,
and the lawyer you hired wouldn't know shit. And like, this is what keeps happening. Stop
hiring people that don't know shit. You, for some reason, you want to obsess on it's the
bad lawyer. That's a huge part of it. It's a conflicted judge, a conflicted jury, and a
prosecutor that has- Right, but if you have a good lawyer, he fucking lays it all out one by one,
and there's nothing they can do to get deniers. So Trump didn't have good lawyers in the New York
case. No! Did you see how fucking they argued about their fucking stuff? Like, this is again-
The judge was objecting to shit that the prosecutor was objecting to.
You yourself agree that one of Trump's worst aspects is hiring people.
Right, yes. That includes lawyers. The judge said you can't call that a witness up. The judge said
that witness is not allowed to testify. To who? And to over what? In the Trump case with the fucking
doofy, goofy fucking guy's name. In the case with- We talked about-
Dude, you're the one making a point here. You don't know your own facts.
Because it's not something I keep in my mind. Then stop trying to use it as a point.
It's not a point in your favor. The judge that prosecuted Trump for the 34 felonies-
Yeah.
Wouldn't allow certain witnesses- The defense would approve. He wouldn't allow them.
Okay. So what? What the fuck? Did you read the trial transcripts? Did you read why he wouldn't
allow them? Did you read any- Do you know the rules of who's an allowed a witness?
Yes. Because he- What are the rules? Even the money-
What are the rules? What are the rules of who's an allowed a witness?
They have to have first hand knowledge of the-
Not through the defense? The defense?
You said the Trump, the defense lawyer tried to call them up.
He called them and the judge said no, they can't- You can't-
Okay, why? And then-
Why did he say that? Don't just go on-
I would have to look back into what-
Okay, then you can't use it as a point in your favor. You lose.
Judge, I'm a-
This is not a point for you.
No.
You're just saying things. You don't have any fucking real arguments. You don't know the rule.
Okay, how about this? Name one thing that happened that Trump came with Judge
Macron that was- or whatever the fuck his name is. That was actually legit. Name one thing.
One thing that I did except-
That's not the point.
No, there was a setup-
Dude, that's not the fucking point. It was-
You're not even getting what I'm saying to you. If the- It doesn't-
Okay, it does matter that they're against you, but it's fair. It does matter.
But if you have a competent defense attorney-
He had-
Stop interrupting me! Jesus fucking Christ!
You won't fucking stop.
If you have a competent defense attorney, he can help mitigate against that.
But Trump did not have competent defense attorney.
Yes, he did.
No, he fucking didn't.
Yes, he did.
Why didn't any of them bring up-
The judge would just shut them down.
Why didn't any of them ever bring up one of the underlying felonies?
It never got asked!
The judge would not even release the charges as it began to trial.
What do you mean? Yes, he did.
Yeah, no, he did not.
He read them to Trump.
We talked about this.
He read them to Trump. He said,
these are the charges against you. Do you understand?
We had the same argument.
We had the same argument backwards.
Right, you were still wrong.
I was 100% right.
He read the fucking charges in open court. What are you talking about?
You're charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records as a class whatever felony.
So what was-
Do you understand, Mr. Trump?
Do you understand these charges against you, Mr. Trump?
Yes, Your Honor, I do.
Okay.
No, no, no, no, no.
Where's the defense attorney?
No, Your Honor, my client does not understand the charges.
What was that judge's direction to the jury at the end of the trial?
I don't care.
You keep bringing-
No, no, no, no.
You think that I'm arguing it wasn't against him?
It was against him.
The point is his defense attorneys were fucking morons.
A judge? No.
This is outside the-
Yes, they were.
This is outside the defense-
At the end of the trial-
Oh my God. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
The court-
No, listen.
It doesn't matter.
We're not making a point.
You're not making a valid point, Ron.
Shut the fuck up and listen.
You're not making a valid point.
Jesus Christ.
You're not-
You talk that.
You broke ass out of your fucking mouth for an hour.
You keep saying the court did this.
I don't care.
That's not what I'm arguing about.
No, closing statement, closing statement, trials over.
The judge goes to the jury and goes,
you have 34 counts.
You don't need to find him guilty on all of them.
So what?
So if you find him guilty on one-
So what?
Shut the fuck up.
So what?
Make a point, Ron.
Make a fucking point.
What the fuck do you think I'm doing?
You're not making a point.
Shut the fuck up.
You're not showing how his defense attorneys were competent.
That's the argument.
No, it's not.
It's not what the court did.
It's what his defense attorneys did.
You want to prove that their defense attorneys were incompetent.
They were.
I'm saying-
We just proved it, Ron.
I'm saying-
I let him get away with this.
Completely different.
They let the court get away with this, Ron.
That's what makes them incompetent.
I'm going to take a nap.
How are you this dumb, Ron?
Will you turn yourself out?
Ron, how are you this dumb?
You're only proving my case.
You're proving my point for me.
The court did this.
The court did that.
Okay, where was the objection?
Where's the motion to dismiss?
Shut the fuck up.
The trial was over.
The opposing statements have been made.
Okay?
So the lawyers can't say shit.
Yes, they can, Ron.
No, they can't.
Yes, they can.
You don't know anything about how this works.
You don't know shit about how this works.
Why do you keep arguing when you literally have no fucking idea of criminal law?
Give me another example of opposing statements being done,
and then the judge making, giving the jury directions, and then somebody objecting.
Objection, objection, judge, that's illegal.
Give me, whoa, oh, you're just making up words now.
How about you give me an exact example of this?
Why do I need an exact example, Ron?
Ron, if the judge says,
Oh my God, shut up and listen.
If the judge-
Don't shut the fuck up.
Don't let me talk.
Because you keep going out of relevant bullshit.
Because you gotta hear.
I want you to hear this word.
I want you to say you need-
You need to close the fucking mouth, open your ears.
I want you to say relevant things.
If we get sticks-
I want you to make relevant arguments, Ron.
Prove that his defense attorney-
No, you're not.
The judge-
You're arguing about the judge.
I don't want to talk about the judge.
I want to talk.
I want to talk about his defense attorneys, Ron.
No, you're wrong.
Ron, that's what you want to talk about.
We're talking about his defense attorneys, Ron.
No, I'm talking about conflicting court.
It doesn't matter.
That's not the argument.
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't, Ron.
Oh my, you're gone.
Ron, I already agreed that they're corrupt.
Stop arguing with me about that.
So they're corrupt.
What the fuck is-
Why isn't his defense attorneys doing anything?
If the judge is corrupt, what can the defense attorneys do?
They can argue about it in open fucking court
and put it on transcript.
Ron, listen to me.
Ron, listen to me.
You're done.
Ron, listen to me very-
Ron, listen to me very closely.
Oh, I can't.
If you don't make an objection-
My neighbor's not fucking talking.
If you don't make an objection in the trial,
then when you later appeal the conviction,
you cannot bring up that objection that you did not make.
Okay.
So you need to make the fucking objection in the trial,
even if the judge overruled you.
You don't think his attorneys were objecting?
No, they weren't.
And he was being overruled.
No, they weren't.
It's on open fucking trial.
It's on video, Ron.
Go watch it.
They did jack shit, Ron.
They let this happen.
No, no.
You're retarded.
No, you're stupid.
You're absolutely fucking retarded, Ron.
His attorneys let this happen to him.
No.
Yes, they did.
The court was conflicted.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
His attorneys let them get away with it.
No.
Yes, they did.
They just fucking stood there and did nothing.
What do you-
Have you not heard the word contempt?
Ron.
Have you heard the word contempt?
I don't care.
Shut the fuck up.
I don't care.
What does it mean?
I don't care.
What does it mean?
I don't care, Ron.
What does it mean?
I don't care.
You don't know what it means.
So you don't know what it means.
Ron.
Here, let's-
Ron, if you don't-
Get contempt charges-
Shut the fuck up.
Get contempt charges.
If you don't get contempt charges for your client,
you are not representing your fucking client.
You are incompetent.
You can go to jail.
Stop arguing.
You just love-
If lawyers can go to jail, I mean-
Look, so what?
So what?
A lawyer-
If your lawyer will not go to jail for you,
he's not representing you, Ron.
Okay.
Okay.
What are you talking about?
You're proving my case.
The world you live in is amazing.
You are proving my fucking case for me.
If this man-
You're not even gonna let me fucking talk.
Because you keep talking about irrelevant bullshit.
I'm saying the courts are conflicting.
It doesn't matter.
Yes, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
They-
It doesn't matter, Ron.
None of that matters.
It doesn't matter.
If your defense attorney's a moron,
you're gonna fucking lose.
Who was Trump's attorneys?
I don't fucking know.
No, I mean, we should look into this.
Because you're saying that they're-
That they're incompetent.
I don't think they were.
Okay.
I think the judge was overstepping his-
Judicial-
Dude.
But they stood there and did nothing.
If you stand there and do nothing, you can't appeal.
Okay.
You have to fight for your client.
Okay.
Now, I'm not saying they're incompetent in general.
Like, I bet you they're fucking great lawyers-
Oh, okay.
When they're not representing Trump.
But when they represent Trump-
That guy were representing food.
Someone came to them and said,
Hey, you're gonna take this fucking case.
Okay.
Because that's what happens when you're in the bar.
You have to obey.
Okay.
You want to argue that the-
His defense attorneys were bad.
They were.
I want to argue that the court was conflicting.
But that doesn't matter.
Why not?
Because if your defense attorneys represent you,
then you have a fucking fighting chance.
The judge-
Okay.
Okay.
Rodney, okay.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me ask you a question.
A judge sitting at his bench, you got two attorneys.
This attorney is saying something the judge doesn't like.
Can the judge bang his gavel and go,
you need to stop talking?
Probably.
Okay.
Okay.
So we were there.
Okay.
Okay.
So I object.
Nope.
Overall.
Okay.
Does that happen?
Yes.
Okay.
So maybe they objected and they were overruled.
Yeah.
By a conflicted judge.
But they didn't object.
How do you know this?
Watch the fucking trial.
Did you watch the trial?
Dude, go read the transcript.
Jesus Christ, you didn't watch it.
There is no watching the trial.
There is no watching the trial.
It was not a video.
There are no cameras.
What do you mean we have on video?
Trump said yes, I understand the charges.
There was no cameras in that courtroom.
Am I misreading-
Am I thinking of something else?
I don't know.
But it's all written transcripts regardless.
Okay, written transcripts.
Okay, I agree with.
Go read them.
Okay.
Show me the objections that got overruled.
It wasn't like a muscle trial.
Show me the objections that got overruled unfairly.
Show them to me.
I'm telling you they didn't do it.
I don't care.
Right, you don't care because you think that the
defense attorney doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
From day one.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't fucking matter, Ron.
It doesn't matter because if your defense attorney
represents you, the jury can say,
well, this judge is unfair.
Not guilty.
Okay.
But they didn't do that.
They didn't fight for their clients.
You goddamn idiots.
You understand, juries can be conflicted too, right?
So what?
So what if you don't have competent representation,
then you lose.
Period.
You just, you're talking about, let's say you have a 20%
chance to win with a good attorney.
If you have a bad attorney, you have a 0% chance, Ron.
He had a 0% chance and had a 20% chance.
There was not one legit, give me one legit charge.
It was a face on drop in that trial.
One, one, one charge.
Ron, once you say, Ron, once you say,
I understand the charges, your honor,
then they're legitimate.
They magically become legitimate because you say,
I understand those charges, your honor.
Okay.
I don't believe it's that cut and drive.
It is that cut and drive.
Okay.
But they won charge up as a legit.
They're all legit because Trump agreed to them.
Trump said, yes, sir, I understand.
I understand, sir.
Yep.
I understand this charge.
I don't think he's that right.
All 34.
I sure understand them because I'm Trump.
I'm a big smart guy.
I understand things.
He's a fucking ego driven moron and he couldn't just say,
no, sir, I don't understand the charges.
Please explain them to me like I'm a dumb ass.
That's all you gotta do because if you do that,
if you go to a fucking traffic ticket and you do that,
you're going to get off nine times out of 10.
Because when the judge explains the charges to you
and you say, well, the cops statement says this.
Yes.
Okay.
And you said that.
I don't understand why I'm here.
So at some point in this two or three hour long debate
we're going to have, I'm going to say what I wanted to say.
I want to tell you what the judge told the jury before they
went.
It doesn't matter.
We all know it's all public.
We all know it.
We talked about it at the podcast.
It doesn't fucking matter, Rhonda.
Why don't you tell me?
It doesn't matter.
Why don't you tell me what it was?
It doesn't matter.
The fuck it doesn't.
It doesn't.
If you're a constitutionalist and you say it doesn't matter,
you're fucking there.
If you don't object, you can't appeal, Rhonda.
Can you object after you're closing sentence?
Yes.
You can object.
Yes, retard.
Judge, I object.
This is illegal.
You can't do that.
I don't believe that to be said.
Yes, you fucking can.
Why are you this stupid?
Why are you this fucking stupid?
I'm not.
You cannot object to the judge.
Yes, you fucking can, dude.
That's how you get appeals to go.
Fucking dumb.
So he told the jury out of the 34.
So what?
We've already discussed this.
We already discussed this, Rhonda.
We don't need to tell them again.
We may have one new listener who will give them for that.
They don't care.
I don't care.
I'm going to say it because you obviously don't want me to say it.
Dude.
So I'm going to say that I'm not going to back off of this.
It's not relevant.
I can get louder than you.
It's not relevant.
It's not relevant.
To prove my point is-
You don't have a point.
The judge and the jury can be confronted.
So what?
What the fuck is that?
That's not a point.
I already agreed with that.
So why are you arguing?
So the judge told the jury.
I already know this, Ron.
I already know the judge is corrupt.
I already know he broke the law.
You're not making a fucking argument.
The judge told the jury.
It doesn't matter.
You don't have to fight him guilty on all charges.
I object.
As long as-
I object, Your Honor.
That's illegal, according to New York Statute 1234.
You cannot say that, Judge.
I object.
Overrule.
Okay, fine.
I'll appeal.
But they didn't object.
If you don't object, you can't appeal.
Okay.
That's how it works.
If you don't object, you can't appeal.
Oh my God.
That's the point, Ron.
Obviously, you don't want to say the court assistant.
Have you ever made a court?
Yes.
For what?
Trafford tickets.
Or...
Oh.
Oh, you were speeding?
I don't answer questions like that.
Beautiful answer.
Okay, so let's get away with some money,
because it's now past five o'clock.
Okay.
And we got to get through this shit.
So we got to put the site here.
But the judge didn't tell the jury
that he's fine when guilty of each different charges.
Okay, so what?
The judge is corrupt?
You're not making an argument that I disagree with.
But I was also proving that jury was corrupt.
No, they weren't.
The jury just goes with the flow.
Don't fuck they weren't.
They just do what they're told.
If Ron and they're stupid, it is who do what they're told.
Give your money away.
They're stupid sheep.
They just told the judge that and they all do that.
Dude, they were so good from the day it wasn't even funny.
It doesn't fucking matter.
And you're just like...
It doesn't matter.
You're a stupid hole.
Stop pretending this matters.
This...
Stop pretending this is the key factor.
This seems normal.
Stop pretending this is the key factor, Ron.
I'm talking chicken.
This is not the key factor.
I like chicken.
If your defense attorney don't object, you can't appeal, Ron.
Ooh, that noodle was good.
If your defense attorneys don't fight for you, you can't win.
Okay.
Dumbass.
Okay.
You're so fucking stupid.
No, it's dumbass.
By the way, Midnight, who won last week, you did not come collect.
So we're going to do a double this week.
Okay.
And last week's challenge was...
So Michael Madsen died.
Yeah.
And we asked, what's your favorite performance?
Yeah, I actually want to hear this.
I thought there was going to be all reservoir dogs.
So I thought about maybe I should have banned that,
but we didn't actually get that many reservoir dogs.
So...
Okay, no.
Maybe he had a deep career.
So...
So the first one is another new guy, K4R4B3Y.
And his answer was reservoir dogs plus kill Bill.
So...
Oh, okay.
We got Mike Groove, dude, who is our mushroom guy here in Vegas.
His answer was war games.
Bet you didn't remember he was in war games.
I did not know he was...
He was one of the top soldiers.
Oh, okay.
He's a bit part.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I think he still had some speaking rules, but yeah.
So we got L337 with reservoir dogs.
Oh, so do you remember the loop in Chicago?
Yeah.
Johnny B?
No.
You don't remember Johnny B?
I didn't care about the DJs.
I didn't fucking listen to music.
So Buzz Kiliman, you don't know...
Anything on that?
No.
So Buzz Kiliman was Johnny B. Psyche.
Johnny B. was, I guess, a shock shock.
Okay.
He was the 90s.
Buzz Kiliman was in a movie.
He was in...
Oh, what is...
Oh, fuck.
Silence of the Lamb.
Okay.
He was an orderly in the elevator.
Sorry, I thought it was funny.
Allen McGust, who has another unexpected answer.
Species.
Remember that one?
I probably never saw that movie.
I think it was 96 or 95.
Natasha Henstridge or whatever.
And the whole big thing back then was...
Like a sci-fi alien movie where she got naked.
No, that was the whole big thing with that.
And Michael Madsen was, I think, the main male lead.
Really?
Okay.
Like, he think it was like a cop going after her.
I never saw that movie, but...
Yep.
He was in that...
Oh, we got Monero Mash.
And his answer is a two-fer kill bill and hateful eight.
So he was in hateful eight as well.
I thought once, but I don't really remember a whole lot about it.
No, the only thing I remember about...
That's such a small cast.
Well, it was eight of them, at least.
I think there were 10 people.
The only thing I remember about that movie
is Kurt Russell smashing a guitar.
And it turned out that was actually an antique guitar
that was worth a million dollars.
And they put it on the set.
Like it was a fucking set piece.
And it wasn't in the script that he would smash it,
but he's an actor and they improvise a lot.
So he's like, oh, this will look better if I take the guitar and smash it.
Why would they put a billion dollar guitar?
I don't fucking know.
Why would they put a live round and a gun inside?
Dude, they're fucking...
They're Hollywood retards.
What do you want?
They're probably the same people that defended Trump in his case.
So we got Matt McHugh who said kill bills.
We all like kill bills.
And he said he especially liked the death scene
where he got bitten his face with a black mamba snake.
Okay.
And then we have I'm with Reservoir Dogs.
Wow, that's...
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven people.
That might be a record.
That is a record.
So let's see who's gonna get the double.
Double one.
Spend the win.
Matt McHugh.
Let me find this motherfucker and you get some money.
Okay.
What do we got next?
I don't know what I have.
You had the weather club seating shift.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Do we have any time to get into that?
We're our...
I mean, I have all the time in the world.
It's up to you.
Well, I'm just seeing our listeners.
So do you...
They scroll past?
Do you believe in cloud seating?
Well, I mean, obviously they do it.
Okay.
So you believe that it actually exists?
Yeah.
I mean, they're trying to do it, sure.
But I don't know how successful they are
or how what what...
So there was cloud seating being done in Texas on July 2nd.
Is that what...
No, hold on a second.
Because I remember seeing you post this.
Or maybe it wasn't you.
No, I posted about it.
No, I saw you post about it, but there was something else that said...
The CEO came out and said we were cloud seating.
Well, he said they were doing experiments about something or other,
but then he said they weren't related.
He's changing his tone now.
Okay. Well, I don't...
Yeah, I mean, like, I don't fucking know.
Like these...
But this here, you said they can't see, sure.
This is the list of the 13 states that reported flooding in the last week.
Yes. You know, I saw this and I thought to myself,
okay, well, last year, how many states had flooding in the same time period?
Okay. So let's...
How about we deal with Texas?
Yeah.
The flood that killed, I think we're at 70 something people right now?
So that area is called like flood alley or...
Yeah.
So it's happened before.
Yeah.
The last time a flood happened was in 1987.
And I don't believe as many people died, but a number of people were...
Well, there were probably less people living there.
Well, no, it was the camp, the campgrounds.
They were evacuating people out in a bus.
And the bus got stuck and then we wanted to jump out the bus.
Some died, some lived.
But so it has happened before.
Yeah.
But with the cloud seeding, so this is going to be very confusing.
Do you like Steve Ray Vaughn?
Yeah.
He had an album called Texas Flood in the 80s.
So like...
Okay.
This was the thing.
No, no, I'm not saying...
This is what I'm going to get.
So, I forgot what I was going to say.
You interrupted Steve Ray Vaughn.
Got him!
Yeah, exactly.
This is very often.
This is how they actually do it, not threaten you.
This is how they do it.
So, do you remember Dubai?
With Dubai flooded?
Yeah.
And they initially came out and said, we work cloud seeding.
Okay.
And then they came out and said, yeah, we work.
Okay.
So, they flooded a desert town because they were cloud seeding.
Okay.
So, cloud seeding does exist.
Right now, we have 13 states that reported the last week.
Yeah.
Now, Illinois is on here.
Yeah.
This is like somewhere in Illinois.
Yeah, I mean, but up around Chicago, I don't know.
I mean, I can't verify all of these, but I know for a fact,
Texas, North Carolina, New Mexico, those I know for a fact are funny.
See, like I...
With Los Angeles.
I fucking hate when people make posts like this, because like,
there's no context.
Like, well, is this more than normal?
Is this less than normal?
Like, I don't know.
You're not telling me any info that's useful.
They're just trying to get people mad.
But that's the global climate change people.
They don't talk about the history.
This guy, that you interrupted.
Well, that's actually why I brought this up for, because I don't know about a lot of these
if they're if the flooding, because the first thing I said in Texas,
it has flooded just as bad there before.
Yeah.
So is cloud seeding the problem?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I mean, like, okay, it's...
Even if it is, it's too early to know, to be able to analyze that and get a definitive answer.
Because it's not, it's not an old technology, right?
It's relatively new technology.
Yeah.
Well, okay, and that could be the problem.
They don't know how much product to put out there to get how much.
Right.
Like, so who the fuck knows?
But then again, it could be different in every climate, because like here we're dry.
Yeah.
In Florida and Texas, they're wet.
Yeah.
So I would think the more cloud seeding you put out, the more rain you get.
Here, you probably got to put out double or triple the amount again.
Right.
I don't understand this, but the problem is what the fuck is going on?
If this isn't, because, okay, so we have this and this may not be
completely accurate.
This may not say the history of this.
Maybe all these times are flooded in the past.
But if you look at the bigger picture, in the last five years, how many towns have we lost?
I don't know.
Paradise, California, gone.
Okay.
Lifelife.
We've lost more towns to economic shit than the flooding.
Well, okay, economic...
I'm talking about somebody doing something deceptive.
Okay.
Any economic could probably sell you.
It's not even deceptive because it's not like they're hiding it, right?
They're saying, okay, we're going to do this experiment and this is what we think is going
to happen and this is what we're trying to test or this is what we're trying to accomplish.
We've had mass destruction across this country because I know you and I argue about the hurricane
hitting the Astro North Carolina.
I say a hurricane can not go that far inland.
Of course it can.
I say a hurricane cannot exist in the mountains.
They can't and that's just true.
They don't.
They do.
They don't.
Give me one example.
One example.
Just go look at the fucking historical.
Give me one example.
No look.
Give me one example.
You haven't.
Give me one.
I guarantee you.
Okay, how about this?
How about this?
Give me one example of a hurricane that has come over 100 miles inland.
There's plenty.
Name one.
We had one that hit Chicago.
We never had a hurricane hit.
Yes, we did.
We may have had a tropical storm.
No.
We were in the fucking very edge of the hurricane while it was still classified as a hurricane.
What hurricane was that?
I don't fucking know.
It was in 2000 something or other.
I remember it.
What hurricane in Chicago?
This is Google that shit.
And they're going to be like what even Google is going to go.
What the fuck are you talking about?
So you're saying we can get hit by a hurricane here?
Here? No.
Why not?
Because we're on the west coast.
Hurricanes have hit the west coast before.
But they don't.
They don't.
Hurricanes have hit the west coast.
They don't hit the west coast the way they hit the east coast.
Okay.
And also like so when you're saying mountains right.
Mountains are called hurricane stoppers.
Right.
But when the.
Did you hear those words?
We are well past the mountains.
Okay.
Wait.
Wait.
We hear.
Yes.
But how many mountain ranges have to be crossed from a hurricane to get to Vegas?
But there's two.
Yeah.
Two.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great.
Yeah.
And Asheville is like in the mountains.
So the hurricane was in the process of being stopped.
That's that's what you're not getting.
No.
I I I
I she's giving the hurricane to Chicago.
Where does it start there?
Uh.
To what?
Uh.
Um.
What was the A hurricane?
What was the B hurricane?
It doesn't happen.
Yes, it does.
Okay.
How about this?
How about tell me a hurricane that has came 100 miles inland?
A hundred.
That's cut Florida off because Florida's a weird dude.
I don't have time to fucking do that.
Like right now, like you can't just say.
I'm sorry.
Well, go find it.
Go find it right now.
Go find it right now.
Go find it right now.
Go find it right.
That's not how this works.
Dumbass.
So hurricane in Chicago is not enough of keywords.
No.
Because it wasn't like a fucking giant wind that backed everything over.
It was really fucking windy and really fucking rainy.
And I remember things falling off of buildings.
It was so.
So that would be a tropical storm.
No.
Dumbass.
Give your hurricane to Chicago.
Please.
Please.
You are retarded.
Just go look at it on your own free fucking time.
I'll give you this.
Since you're the one who's into this shit.
I'll give you this.
This is the nice stuff.
Do you want to go to your event tonight?
Stop what?
Ron, do you want to go to your...
Ron, do you want to go to your event tonight?
It'll take you that long to put a hurricane in Chicago.
That's what you need.
Ron, are you fucking...
Are you this fucking retarded, Ron?
Like are you literally...
I'm talking to you, my partner.
You are this retarded.
No hurricane has ever hit Chicago.
Yes, they have.
Ever.
Yes, they have.
Dude, I was there.
You were there.
No.
We were both there at the time.
I might be wrong.
Wait, I might be wrong.
Isn't there a hockey team called the Hurricanes?
Dude, we were both there when it happened.
The Hurricanes never hit Chicago.
We were both there.
What's the winds of a hurricane?
What's the wind?
Dude, we were both there, Ron.
Why are you this fucking stupid?
You can pull up a fucking map of the storm after it hit the East Coast
and then it kept on coming and it kept on coming.
Wait, you're saying it came from the East Coast and not the South?
So it came from over from New York and it came like this?
It might have come from the South.
It came from I-80?
I'm pretty sure it did.
Oh, it came up 75 or 65.
I'm pretty sure it came from the East Coast.
I'm pretty sure it came from the East Coast.
Chicago Hurricanes.
Dude, you are literally fucking retarded.
If I have an hour, I can find it, Ron.
Do you want to sit here for an hour while I find it?
No, the fuck.
Ron, why don't you do this work on your own?
Because you act like you're interested in this.
So why don't you ever sit down and look?
So...
You've heard me make this claim before, Ron.
So why don't you ever fucking go look?
Tell me, no, just tell me why.
Why don't you ever go research?
Because I don't need to.
Yes, you do, Ron.
You can't just tell me from the fucking...
$100 on the table.
Ron.
$100 on the table.
You put up $100 on the table.
You're going to fucking change it in the middle of the bat, Ron.
So no, I'm not going to bet you unless it's a third party.
Okay.
Ron.
Chicago.
I'm not going to bet you unless there's a third party that makes the decision.
The internet.
Ron.
Jimmy.
No.
I'm not going to bet you unless there's a third party, a neutral third party that will
say who the winner is, Ron.
I'm trying to talk in circles a good round.
A hurricane has...
You have certain wind speeds that have to exist to be a hurricane, correct?
No.
You don't need certain wind speeds to be a hurricane.
So you think a man...
A man?
...with a piece of paper says, okay, that's a hurricane and that makes it official?
Dave, do you understand what a tropical storm is for a hurricane, right?
Ron.
You understand that the hurricane...
It hit the East Coast and then it kept on going, Ron.
It kept on going.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The thing that happened in Chicago while we both lived there and your dumbass somehow
forgot it raced through your memory because this is what you do.
I lived in the windy city.
It was windy all the fucking time.
Right.
So your dumbass wouldn't even have looked at it and said, oh, shit, that's the hurricane
from a week ago in New York.
It took a week to get there?
How fast do you think they travel, Ron?
More than, I mean, more than that, faster than that.
No, they don't, Ron.
My grandmother gonna drove the East Coast Chicago.
Why are you so fucking stupid that you think...
Dude, you can drive from New York to Chicago and like DC...
Hurricanes are not as fast as a fucking car, you dumbass!
DC to Chicago is 12 hours drive.
That's the speed limit.
Do you think hurricanes go that fast?
You think they don't?
No, they don't, dumbass.
They're like 20 miles an hour, just like the old guy with the hat on.
Holy fuck.
This is why I call you retarded, Ron.
You don't know who the basic...
Truth be wrong!
Ron.
Hurricane Chicago.
Do you want to sit here for an hour while I go look up at...
Ron.
We'll take you an hour.
No, you want to sit here for a fucking hour while I go through every hurricane to go find which one.
Yep.
Then you're not going to your event tonight.
That's cool.
Ron.
I don't know how a hurricane Chicago is not...
This is not an argument, Ron.
I don't know.
That's not an argument.
I don't care what you don't know.
You don't know anything.
You're a dumbass.
There's no way you could prove something didn't exist.
Yes, I could.
Oh, it did exist.
It did exist.
It did exist.
It did exist.
And as soon as we get a neutral...
As soon as we agree on a neutral third party who will disperse the money, then I will bet you.
Honestly, I would be good with any news agency that had their word hurricane in Chicago.
Right there.
That's not a bet.
Why not?
Because that's...
I'm saying that's all it would do.
Because what if they didn't write that?
What if they didn't write it that way, you dumbass?
Because I would show you an article proving might be right and you would say, well, they
misspelled the word hurricane.
No.
I win.
Ha, ha, ha.
So I'm not betting you on your fucking terms, dumbass.
We're getting a neutral third party and they will disperse the money.
All the media in the world...
All the media in the world never decide the word hurricane in Chicago.
They didn't report on it, you fucking moron.
Okay, so who's the head of the FDA again?
I forgot.
Who?
The FDA.
I don't remember.
Isn't it RFK Jr.?
Is it?
If you have to...
Where's the HHS?
I think they have to do that.
Okay, it's all the same shit, right?
Essentially.
So you know what the FDA just did?
What?
They approved the Moderna vaccine for children.
How do you like that?
I...
COVID vaccine, the Moderna COVID vaccine.
Okay, I'm gonna have to look into that.
Well, there you go.
They approved it for children.
Under Trump.
Trump's the leader and they approved it for children.
There you go.
There you go.
There you go.
There you go.
Got the vaccine.
It's my operation warp speed.
It's beautiful.
Here's the thing.
That's the thing that everyone forgot.
Because the Democrats took possession of the vaccine,
but Trump is the one that rushed the vaccine.
That's right.
He did and now he's still doing it.
And people...
But the Democrats...
He's still doing it.
COVID's over.
What are we...
Why are we still talking about this?
I know.
Why are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein and COVID?
What...
Just get over it.
What the fuck, FDA?
What are we doing?
Fire these people.
My God.
Get rid of them all.
Okay, let's...
Let's...
Let's rush through our teaching shit here.
Mine's actually gonna be very short.
You wanna do your first, actually?
Sure.
Because mine has to come down to the wire.
So go ahead.
Okay, that's weird.
But...
Well, I have to time it properly.
So use it short so...
Okay.
So this is a thing that I've done in the past,
but I never really thought was an issue
that other people would wanna know.
But it came up on another podcast.
So I wanna bring it up on this one.
If you're ever a victim and then in the hospital,
as a victim of a hospital,
and you don't think you need to stay there anymore
and you wanna leave and they tell you you can't,
and they say, oh, your insurance won't pay for it if you leave,
you can leave.
It's called Check It Out AMA.
You don't need...
It's my good advice.
I've been to the hospital twice in my adult life,
and I've checked out AMA both times.
My insurance covered it.
Cause I was in the hospital once,
and it was a Sunday morning,
and they're like, well, sir,
we need you to stay here
because there's a fairly important test
that needs to be done.
I'm like, well, let's do it.
And they go, oh, we don't do it until Mondays.
And we don't do it on weekends.
And I go, well, it's not that important then.
If you don't do it on a Sunday, it's not that important.
So you can check out AMA for any time you want,
any reason you want, they cannot hold you there.
They will try to threaten you.
They won't make accusations that are not true.
Just say paperwork, AMA,
or I'm just going to walk out the door.
Yeah.
And they cannot hold you hostage there.
I didn't really do a lot of research on this
because I kind of know about it,
but it's a very short segment.
Don't stay in the hospital if you don't want to be there.
There you go.
Yeah, don't act like they're on...
I've actually pulled my own IVs out.
They're not cops.
They cannot force you to stay there.
I've actually pulled my own IVs out and got dressed.
And I'm like, I'm walking out the door,
they're like, where you going?
I go, I'm leaving.
So, yeah.
Nice and simple one.
So hopefully I'll get through this before you have to leave.
So I'm going to talk about what is Litecoin Mimble Wimble?
So here in the Vegas crypto community,
people know that I'm a big privacy guy.
And people have asked me to cover Litecoin Mimble Wimble
because allegedly it brings privacy to Litecoin,
which is a transparent crypto coin.
Okay.
So what the hell is this thing?
So most of these cryptos,
so they have extra junk at the back of the transaction
that you can put in whatever you want.
So you can put in a funny message,
you can put in a link to your website,
all this goofy stuff.
You can also put in encrypted stuff, right?
So Mimble Wimble is using that extra junk
at the end of a transaction to encrypt data
to add a privacy layer to Litecoin.
Okay.
So now the way this works is you have to take your
transparent Litecoin and build that transaction
with the goofy stuff at the back, right?
And it's called doing a peg in.
So you peg in to Mimble Wimble.
And then once you're pegged in,
your coins will show in a special balance
called the M-Web balance, two different balances.
So it's your public balance and your private balance.
Okay.
So once you're in the M-Web, you can send it, receive,
and it has special addresses.
And that's how the wallet knows,
oh, it has this private or it's this public.
That's how it knows, with these special addresses.
So these addresses are obscured to the public
from the peg in area.
So if I send it to you, nobody knows your address
and nobody knows my address, other than us.
Right.
Just like Monero, right?
Now amounts are obscured on a per block basis.
And it's impossible to prove who sent
and who received and given amounts.
However, there's a caveat here.
So if you're the only transaction in that block,
your amount is transparent.
Okay.
Because what it does is, let's say there's 20 transactions
that all total up to 100 litecoin.
Okay.
You'll see 100 litecoin got sent.
But if I'm the only dumbass in the block
and I sent one litecoin, one litecoin got sent.
And I have actually some proof here of that.
So I played around with Mimble Wimble and I sent 0.5.
And this is a Mimble Wimble transaction that says 0.5
because I was the only person in that block.
Okay.
So the fewer people that use this,
you guys probably can't even see that.
But I'll post these up in the chat room if you need them.
So the fewer people that use Mimble Wimble,
the less private it is.
Okay.
The more people that use it, the more private it is.
Okay.
So that's one caveat you got to worry about.
So let's see here.
Yeah.
So I showed that.
Now to go back to regular litecoin,
you have to do a peg out.
Now why the hell would you peg out?
Right?
You're private, everything's golden, like no one can see.
So none of these exchanges will take your M-Web coins.
They only want real, like the transparent litecoins.
Okay.
So like if you want to cash out, you have to peg out and cash out some amount.
I mean like you can...
Mimble Wimble, peg in, peg out.
Yeah, it's goofy.
So Mimble Wimble is from Harry Potter.
So the guy who made, is a Harry Potter fan.
So now it's very difficult to correlate the peg into the peg out,
especially if you differ the amounts and you do it over time.
So like if I, like in my example, I put in 0.5 and then I took out 0.5 and it was all within a day.
Okay.
So you could probably figure out, oh that's this guy, right?
But if you're doing like, if you put in 100 and then slowly over time,
you take out one and one half and 0.7, like it's very hard to correlate that back together.
So now how do you get Mimble Wimble?
Well, most wallets will support it.
Now I'm not a big like coin fan, so I didn't do a deep dive on which wallets there are.
But Cake Wallet does support it, which we're fans of Cake Wallet here.
So you could just enable Mimble Wimble on your Cake Wallet
and then there's going to be a peg in button.
Just hit the button and it's all fucking simple.
Fair enough.
Now you can't do P2P trades in atomic version, in an atomic swap,
because Mweb does not support locking or proof of funds the way Monero does.
So if you want to trade your Mimble Wimble coin with some other person,
you have to trust that person to pay their end.
So you send your coins and you hope that they send you something back.
So that's another downside.
Now what's the function of Mimble Wimble here?
So on the blockchain.
So I traced everything I did and so when you peg in, what happens is
here's my litecoin that I pegged in.
It's hard to see, but you can see it's 0.4 and a bunch of nines because there's a fees.
Then it went into this wallet with like 155,900 litecoin.
So I sent my litecoin to this wallet with a bunch of litecoin.
Okay.
That's what happened.
Then when you peg out, the big wallet full of all these litecoins,
sends it back to where you tell it to.
So there's the 499 again.
Okay.
So what I'm trying to figure out is what is this fucking wallet?
That's a real wallet with litecoin in it.
So what I think is going on here is let's say we have a big building
and it's like a vault full of money.
Okay.
Now I can walk into that building and they're going to do a full cavity search on me when I walk in
and they're going to count the amount of money I bring with me.
Okay.
Okay.
And then I'm going to put some or all that money in the vault and then I'm going to walk out
and then they're going to do another full cavity search and then see how much money I must have
left in the building or taken out.
Now there's a way to prove how much of that building's money that belongs to me,
which we won't get into.
That's all math heavy shit.
And then if I'm in the building, I can swap money with people that are also in the building.
Right.
Okay.
With privacy because the building has got walls.
Okay.
So you don't know what happens inside the building,
but you know when I walk in and walk out.
Okay.
Right.
So now somebody owns the building, right?
So they own a building with a bunch of money in it.
Yeah.
Now what stops them from just closing the building and taking all the money?
You know what I'm saying?
People with guns?
Well, okay.
What stops them in a digital world when there's no physical building?
That's a good point.
So now I tried as hard as I could to find documentation on what the fuck this is,
how this works, how they are stopped from taking this money.
And I can't even find discussions saying that this exists.
So I don't know why it's so secretive, why no one talks about it,
but I want to know what this wallet is and how it's prevented from stealing my light coin.
So, right.
Where's the documentation?
Where's the discussions?
Now, there's a couple other problems I thought of where like, so I just did a quick peg in,
peg out, where like you could tell that that was my money both sides.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, if you're just doing a quick in and out, you're kind of losing the privacy
because people can just track that.
Okay.
Now, if you're doing it long term, right, you could actually benefit from the privacy,
but then the odds that someone just takes this building and closes it up, that goes up, right?
Because eventually, there's going to have a lot more light coin than $155 million,
which I think is like worth $30 million.
Oh, wow.
But eventually, it's going to worth $100 million, a billion dollars.
Someone's going to say, oh, I can have a billion dollars.
Goodbye.
Thank you.
Right.
What stops them to do?
I don't understand.
So, I mean, there's got to be something that yeah, I don't.
Well, if there was, why aren't they telling them?
Where's the website?
So the website is going to be registered so that the government could find out.
There's no web.
It's not like, I mean, there's a light coin website and code base and all that shit.
We have to have some kind of way to find it.
There's no documentation about any of this.
Not that I can find it.
If you guys know where it is, send me a link.
So I can't find it.
I look very hard.
I cannot find it.
Please send it to me if you have it.
And I talked to experts that are in the crypto community.
I'm like, hey, do you understand how this works?
No.
No documentation.
I don't know how.
I have no idea.
So I don't know.
Now, is this actually, is this a real use for this,
is it posted in the narrow?
Well, no dark markets are using it, right?
They're all still using one arrow.
So you can't do that.
The exchanges aren't letting you use it.
So you have to peg out and you have to do transparent light coin anyway.
So you can't like do day trading or anything like that.
Like I said, if you already have lots of light coins, you can obscure it over time.
But there's a potential risk that someone takes their ball and goes home with it.
But there's also possible privacy loss if you do it too fast.
And it kind of looks suspicious.
Like what's this guy doing?
He's mixing his funds.
He's money laundering.
Who knows who's looking at this stuff?
I don't know.
And honestly, you don't need light coin.
What is light coin doing for you?
Are you trying to make money?
Because if you are, you don't understand crypto.
If you want to have money, if you want to get rid of this stupid dollar system,
then you should be using Monero.
You don't need this light coin stuff.
Monero does everything you want and it's better in every possible way.
So now if you trade with people who only want light coin,
this might be one good way to do it in a private way and teach them about the value of privacy.
But I would say while you're doing that, be like, hey, have you heard about Monero?
Yeah.
Get them into Monero.
Get them off light coin.
So that's really the use for this is to get people into Monero.
Right?
You know, so I would say avoid this.
It looks very suspicious to me.
It's full of red flags.
I can't prove it.
Right?
I don't understand the math behind it and there's no documentation.
So are you retarded?
Yeah, I'm retarded because I can't do PhD math.
And I don't have, I could, I mean, go get a PhD in math if I fucking want to invest that.
But yeah, I just say just avoid it.
Right?
Get into Monero.
Yeah.
Um, sorry for you guys that are light coin fans, but I'm not saying this is the best
thing since sliced bread, but uh, yeah, I would say avoid it.
That's my recommendation.
All right.
So that seems like a wrap for the week.
There you go.
See you next week.
All right.
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Thanks a lot.
See you everybody next week.
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