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RON: Alright, how's everybody doing today? I'm Ron Morgan and this is my cohost, DAVE: Dave Havlicek.

RON: We are running a libertarian podcast and somewhat of a survival podcast. DAVE: The Canary in the Cage.

We still don't have our canary.

RON: You know what, the damn...

So I'm trying to find it at a store. I mean I can get it online but I want to...

I want to mount it on a perch and...

You know, the Vegas stores just don't carry canaries. There's like a canary ban in this city.

DAVE: They don't have a lot of things here.

RON: Yeah, so...

Alright, so I noticed something the other day I was kind of... I found kind of interesting.

You know, like all the TV shows and movies that are kind of in retro shit and reboots.

Even the Super Bowl did a reboot.

No, Super Bowl did a... they did like a theme of calling back to like other earlier times in the halftime show.

At least that's why. Because they were mentioning certain stuff. Maybe I misread that. I don't really watch...

DAVE: I didn't hear that. Well, I was in the casino at the time so I only saw the video. I didn't get the audio.

RON: Yeah, it just seemed like they were kind of doing the throwback but now Joe Biden's getting into it.

DAVE: Oh yeah?

RON: Yeah, I mean he's bringing back measles and mumps. Wait, are measles and mumps the same thing?

DAVE: No.

RON: They are separate.

DAVE: Yeah, they're separate.

RON: Okay, and tuberculosis, we got that coming back.

DAVE: Really?

RON: Oh yeah, we got all kinds of diseases coming back that we got rid of.

Alright, so yeah, Joe Biden probably couldn't stay out of the limelight with that.

DAVE: Well, you know that here in Vegas, in the Southwest in general, the Black Plague gets like five victims every year so...

RON: Seriously?

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: How do you catch that?

DAVE: Like rats.

RON: Okay, I'll stay away from rats then.

DAVE: But I mean you just take an antibiotic pill and you're done.

But like some people refuse to take anything and they die from it.

RON: Well I don't you take pharmaceutical medications though

DAVE: Well, antibiotic isn't necessarily pharmaceutical.

RON: Yeah, I probably just swallow the pill.

DAVE: It's the fucking Black Plague. Give me the pill.

RON: So I'm going to make my first prediction.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: Because I want to do this throughout the show because I kind of follow stories and I'm trying to interpret where they're going.

It's really freaking hard to do that because one, you don't know what stories are true, what's going on.

But my prediction is that the Democrats will control the House before the election.

DAVE: How are they going to do that?

RON: I'm glad you asked.

So we've already had Kevin McCarthy leave.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: Joe Buck is leaving this month.

And Bill Johnson, he left back in January.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: George Santos, they kicked his ass out and he's been replaced with a Democrat - shocker.

And then Chris Stewart from Utah also left.

They replaced him with a female Republican.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: So that was more of a wash.

But it looked like the number is getting really close.

DAVE: I thought they had like 20 point lead.

RON: Oh no.

So with my math, I've got it down to six.

But if you read online, they're saying it's two.

DAVE: Well what's the difference?

They voted for the fucking TikTok bill anyway.

RON: Yeah.

Well, like, like, Ken Buck technically hasn't left yet.

So any number you see, you've got to subtract that.

And we know, I mean, you got to look at, you've watched, you ever look at Liberty scores?

All right.

So I kind of watched that kind of see how they're voting.

We've got over 25 Republicans in the House that have less than 50% Liberty score.

A lot of them will align with the Democrats.

DAVE: Yeah.

That's not surprising.

RON: Right.

So we have a few more leave and they're not replacing any of them until the, until the

election in November.

DAVE: Right.

RON: So if, if that shifts, we might see the Democrats taking control of the House.

I think it's planned.

Don't get me wrong.

DAVE: Maybe.

RON: Because the Republicans are known to work with the Democrats.

It is a uniparty in that, in that Congress.

So maybe they don't, because they don't know how to fight.

DAVE: But what's the, what's the goal of this?

RON: Well, I've got to, I, so I've got to do a little bit more research on this because if

no one gets to 270, it falls back to the House to decide.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: But it doesn't fall back to the majority party.

DAVE: Right.

RON: It gets broken out into like states and districts.

DAVE: Right, right.

Okay.

RON: So I haven't, I'm trying to do that math to see if that would work.

But I mean, I think with all the Republicans jumping ship.

DAVE: Huh.

RON: I mean, we also have, I mean, it's like, I think it's like 50 Congress members leaving

office after this year.

DAVE: Should we like check their bank accounts for.

RON: Oh.

DAVE: They were receiving large payments.

RON: They were just talking about Joe Biden's wealth on the radio today.

So, but I mean, Al Gore, he did it too.

He, he walked into the vice presidency with a million dollars in the bank.

He's worth, I don't know what 500.

He can actually pay Trump's bond for him.

DAVE: There you go.

See, well no, I see it in, see it in CNN today.

Oh, they had a show and they were talking about that.

And they said, well, he could just sell Mar-a-Lago because that's worth 250 million or something.

RON: But wait, I thought that was, I thought it was overvalued.

DAVE: Well, CNN said it though.

RON: I heard that.

DAVE: I mean, that was a strange one.

RON: Yeah.

I mean, one guy who was, maybe Bongino, he said that was a Trump and Elon Musk met,

like got together and talked.

And now the speculation is, is he just going to post the bond?

I mean, he's got the money.

DAVE: But he probably does actually.

RON: Yeah.

Even Bongino, Bongino's offer quite a bit of money to, it's a bond.

So you get the money back.

DAVE: I think you don't, you get, you get 90% of it back or something.

RON: I mean, if he wins an appeal.

DAVE: Well, yeah.

But I think, I think you still sacrifice 10%.

RON: Okay.

Well, I mean, he can cover that.

He can cover 10% of that.

So yeah, I, that's, that's my first prediction.

Hopefully it won't come true if it does.

I don't even know if there is a downside to it.

DAVE: You know what I'm predicting?

A bloodbath.

RON: Oh, no.

Did you know Google changed definitely?

DAVE: I saw that.

I was checking just before I came over here.

RON: Yeah.

Google changed it.

Tick tock didn't.

I mean, Duck Duck Go get, didn't.

Sorry.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: So anybody using Google, stop using Google, stop voting for Republicans.

Are you kind of getting this where we're going here?

We're being controlled and again, if you guys, if you Republicans elect

fighters, they'll support the Republicans in the house or in the, in Congress, but

they're not, they're scared to fight.

And that's why they're all jumping ship.

I mean, Mitt Romney's out.

He's not running again, but his son worked for a Ukraine gas company too.

DAVE: He's a piece of shit anyway.

RON: Again, this is my opinion.

I could be wrong.

I don't need Mitt Romney coming over here from Utah.

I'm just six hours away and kicking my ass.

Actually, Mitt Romney and I share the same birthday.

Yeah.

We're birthday brothers.

It's about the only thing we have in common.

DAVE: I'd be embarrassed to admit that.

RON: I mean, you always got to have one.

DAVE: Well, I have a birthday

I shared with Mr. T.

RON: Oh, that's cool.

Funny story about Mr. T.

I used to drive for Lyft in Denver and Seattle because I moved to those cities

and I didn't know anything about the city.

So I drove for Lyft.

Well, when I downloaded Waze as my map, I could pick a voice.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Who else am I going to pick?

Mr. T.

So I'm driving these Gen Z years millennia, 20 year olds.

And it was a young girl and she's like, sir, can I ask you a question?

I'm like, yeah, what do you got?

She goes, why is your GPS mad?

And the two guys with her like, oh, no, no, that's Mr. T.

DAVE: I'll pity the fool.

Who doesn't turn left

RON: See, I wish they would have went one step further with Mr. T's voice.

You know, sometimes they tell you to turn left and you want to make the next

left instead because you know better than GPS.

I wanted to go, yo, I told you to turn left back there.

What's wrong with you?

I find I'm not talking anymore.

If you're not going to follow my directions, see, I thought that would be fun

to like really play that up a little bit.

But what do I know?

So yeah.

So we got that going.

Let me see if we have any more information on there.

Oh, yeah.

I'm sorry.

I'm kind of jumping back to the Republicans in the house.

Steven Scalise.

DAVE: Okay, really?

RON: He's got blood cancer.

DAVE: Huh?

RON: He's barely shown up for any of the votes right now.

Matter of fact, their first vote to impeach Mayorkas, they had to let it

fail and not tie because if it would have tied, it would have been over.

So one Republican had to vote no on impeachment just to carry it over to

the next round to get Steve Scalise then.

So between, you know, the if he was to pass away, unfortunately, or if he just

can't do his job anymore and actually steps down, unlike the Democrats who show

up dead, fighting.

Well, I mean, it's great.

I've got McConnell.

He's kind of hanging on there.

He keeps freezing on the camera.

DAVE: He's a senator though, isn't he?

RON: Yeah, but still, it's just Republicans hanging out in the retirement home of

DC.

So, yeah, so that's kind of my prediction.

That's kind of where we're at.

I haven't been to figure out why they would do it, but I have a feeling because

Democrats know how to scam the system.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: And Republicans don't.

DAVE: I think they do.

They it's just RON: One example?

DAVE: Well, it's not..

So the fact that they don't do it doesn't mean they don't know how to do it.

It's that it's the, you know, the pro wrestling face and heel.

Right.

So so Hulk Hogan is the face.

He's the good guy and Macho Man Randy Savage is the heel.

He's the bad guy.

He has to lose.

It doesn't matter who the better wrestler is or who the crowd is cheering for.

Right.

Hulk Hogan has to beat Macho Man Randy Savage.

That's just how the script goes.

RON: Okay.

But that means they're still working together.

DAVE: Yeah.

Of course.

RON: Yeah.

And still colluding to screw us Americans.

DAVE: Well, wrestling there, it's the two entertain you, but yeah.

RON: Yeah.

That's that's always fun because back in the 80s, we actually thought that shit was real.

DAVE: Yeah.

They didn't know that until the mid 90s or something.

RON: Well, no, actually Andy Kaufman.

You know Andy Kaufman?

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Yeah.

Yeah.

He kind of knew it, called it out and he actually fought one of the wrestlers and got his

ass kicked.

He decided to go after women wrestlers and got his ass kicked.

So, all right.

DAVE: Well, I got one.

I bet you don't have any notes.

RON: Oh, what's that?

DAVE: So like this was a little bit in the news, but you know, like fourth page down, you had

a really scroll.

RON: Oh, so it was a true story.

DAVE: Yes.

Okay.

So.

Okay.

So one of the directors at the Bill and Hillary Clinton Airport in Little Rock, Arkansas

got raided by the ATF.

RON: Yep.

DAVE: Like six in the morning, they just like did a no knock raid and shot the guy in the head.

I don't know if he's dead or not.

RON: He's still alive.

DAVE: But he's basically not.

RON: Well, I didn't have a chance to look into that.

I don't know if it was like, because you get shot in the head and it just kind of graze

you.

DAVE: Well, he's in critical condition in the hospital.

RON: But my guess is of a fed that Clinton hired, sent him.

He's going to die.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Again, because Clinton killed people.

Again, my opinion, I could be wrong.

DAVE: Like just how like if I made that story up like five days ago, you'd be like, dude, that's

a terrible TV show idea.

RON: Right.

DAVE: Like who the fuck's going to like this is some fucking like right wing, stupid nonsense.

I'm not going to watch this.

RON: No, but it really happened.

Yeah, I did hear that actually.

I don't do a lot of work.

I sit by desk and watch podcasts all day.

If my boss is listening, I work very hard every day.

I only listen to podcasts on my 15 minute break and my lunch.

I watch them in fast forward.

DAVE: Fast forward.

RON: Yeah.

I can get like four of them done in an hour.

So okay.

The other thing I want to talk about is, did you see the TikTok video where the new visitor,

the illegal alien posted a video telling his other one, his other new video.

DAVE: I didn't watch the video, but I saw stories about the video.

RON: Yeah.

And what he did is he told everybody how to steal a house.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: And apparently that's possible.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: I actually found out in Atlanta right now, there's like 40 or 50 houses, not by illegals.

These are actually Americans that did this one.

We didn't outsource it yet.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: They're, they're squatting in houses.

DAVE: Well, there was that New York case.

RON: Oh, you saw that video.

They arrested the woman.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: The guy, the guy's like, well, it's my house.

I have a lease.

Where's the lease?

I don't know.

Yeah.

DAVE: Well, I had, I had a friend stay out here during the summer for the poker tournaments and

he booked a room at one of the strip casinos and he was here for like 45 days or something.

And he, he, he booked it over the phone for 45 days.

And like 20 something days into the trip, they call him and say, sir, we have to get

you out.

You can't stay here for the full thing.

We'll, we'll, you know, rebook you somewhere else and cover the difference, but you can't

stay here.

And I'm like, what the hell are you talking about?

I looked it up.

Well, I looked it up and in Nevada, if you stay somewhere for 30 days, you have renters

rights.

RON: Oh, so he could own a hotel room.

DAVE: So he could have owned a hotel room, right?

RON: Oh, I saw got to do that.

DAVE: Well, I mean, they're pretty careful about it.

And I told him, dude, don't leave.

They can't make you leave.

RON: Right.

DAVE: And he wasn't going to take advantage of squatting or any bullshit like that anyway, but it's

like, why leave?

They can't make you leave.

Fuck you.

That's my hotel room.

I paid for it.

It's right here on the contract.

You guys agreed to, too fucking bad.

RON: Now couldn't they have just changed his room or is it because of the address?

DAVE: I don't think they can do that.

RON: I'm not sure.

Like, yeah, no, that's something interesting.

DAVE: I have to, the casino makes a mistake and books you for 31 days.

RON: You might as well just fucking squat that casino.

DAVE: Oh yeah, they have to honor that.

Technically, if you call them to it, well DAVE: it's not even just honoring it.

After that 30 day period, you don't have a lease.

So you're on a month to month lease that you never signed.

So you just have a free hotel room basically.

RON: Yeah.

I'm sure the first time he leaves that room, that door gets locked.

DAVE: Yeah, they're going to fuck with you for sure.

RON: But the lock's malfunctioning!

I don't know why it's the only lock in the hotel that's malfunctioning right now.

Wow.

Yeah.

DAVE: So I went and looked up that whole law and all that shit works.

RON: Actually, so, to be honest though, you know, I'm still not a bunch of questionnaires because

I'm, you know, we're running for political shit.

And one of them is, you know, what do you hope to do in the Assembly district?

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: And I'm actually thinking about looking into this, changing the laws for squatters.

DAVE: Well here they're not that bad, are they?

RON: See, I haven't had a chance, I didn't get a chance because I was working to hard today

to look that up.

But I do know I have a vacant house down the street and the realtor, I was talking to her.

She's like, Hey, if you see my mill about, let me know.

So I think you can squat here.

DAVE: Right.

But they can kick your ass out unless you have that 30 day.

RON: I don't know, man.

DAVE: I don't know.

Yeah.

RON: It's, it's, it comes down to if you're, if, if they consider you a resident of that house,

you have to be evicted by a judge.

DAVE: Yeah.

Well, so residency is the 30 day period.

RON: Right.

Or if you get mail there.

No, mail proves residency.

DAVE: No, but you, you have, well, you've had to have mail for 30 days.

RON: See, I got to look into that because that, if, if, if it's indeed that easy to steal a

house, we, we got to change that law.

That's just DAVE: Well, I mean, how, how would we fix that?

I mean, I don't think there's any, there's, there's, the thing is, there's no one size

solution.

You know what I mean?

RON: Well, and that's, that's, that's actually the dilemma I run into if I ever was to get

elected because we don't like new laws.

DAVE: Right.

RON: So to, to fix that, you would have to pass some sort of a law, um, spell it all out and

on how to fix that.

And, but then that means we're passing a law.

DAVE: Well, I mean, I think no matter what you do, someone's going to find a way to take advantage

of it.

There's just no, there's no way around that.

RON: Yeah.

Yeah.

DAVE: It should be, it should be done in courts, right?

RON: Like every, but then it should be a quick, a quick case to court.

DAVE: Right.

Exactly.

RON: Cause like I said, the lady in New Jersey, she's looking at four to six months.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Um, you know, here we've got a fairly decent court system.

I think you move them pretty quick, but you're still talking a month or two and what the hell

they going to do to your house.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Copper wires gone.

Appliances are gone.

DAVE: Yeah.

I mean, it's, there's no good solution.

Yeah.

I mean, you could have, you don't even need to have the government courts do it.

Like you'd have private arbitration services.

Like for, it could be part of your house insurance, for example.

So like you buy one of these houses that you're planning to rent out or fix up or who knows.

In the insurance, it could cover people that come in and try to claim residency.

RON: I don't know why insurance would do that.

DAVE: Because we want that.

RON: Well, I mean, why not if people want it because they would lose too much money.

DAVE: I don't think they would lose that much money.

I mean, the insurance company would have an incentive to keep squatters out.

RON: True.

But if, if there's, if they have to pay out to the owner or the insurance holder X amount

of dollars because someone's squatting in their house, then they're going to lose.

And if, I mean, with all, we got almost two million people in this country that we didn't

invite.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: But crash the party.

DAVE: But if the, if the buyer of the house wants to insure against this event, someone's going

to sell that insurance policy.

RON: Yeah.

And the insurance comes are greedy.

And they'll mark it up to be really high.

But I do, I do, uh, the advice I want to give if you have a house that you're not living

in and it's vacant right now, get some alarms on that house, get some cameras in that house,

get some motion detectors on that house, DAVE: bar the windows, RON: bar the windows and, and do something

that I hate when neighbors do, put up an external speaker for the alarm.

If that alarm goes off, you wake up the fucking neighborhood.

So we, so you don't allow them to set up in your house and you lose your house.

DAVE: Right.

RON: Crazy.

DAVE: There was this one case in, uh, Malibu or, you know, like one of these rich suburbs of

LA.

RON: Oh, wait a second.

I want a Malibu or mansion.

DAVE: Well, that's what happened.

So like this, this woman did an Airbnb on this mansion and it was like, I don't know,

like 10 grand for a week or something.

But the guy never checked up on her and she just stayed there and now she has a huge fucking

mansion in, in wherever it is for free.

RON: Oh, I'm sure California with the laws will fix that.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: They're pro rich rich people.

So actually I go to a battle.

A lot when I go to California.

And the last two times I went with it within the last like 12 months, I have seen so many

houses for sale in Malibu.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: And I was looking it up.

So California Institute of a mansion tax.

So if you have a mansion, if you're lucky that's a mansion, you can afford to pay more.

So that's why I think a lot of them are leaving because what's his name?

Matt Mark.

The dude that the dance is underwear hanging out.

Marky Mark.

DAVE: Oh yeah.

Yeah.

RON: He lives here now.

Mark Wahlberg.

His movie studio just got approved.

DAVE: I heard about that.

Have you been to their burger place?

RON: Yeah.

Not here, but somewhere else.

DAVE: It's okay.

RON: I mean, Seattle, I went to Seattle.

Yeah.

To me, DAVE: Marky Mark burger.

RON: Yeah.

You know, we were talking about hamburgers at work today and it's just like, there's

just, I don't know.

To me, I find it hard to, to find a good hamburger anymore.

DAVE: In-N-Out.

RON: No, but they're fries.

They're fries.

DAVE: The fries are terrible.

RON: Cardboard.

DAVE: Yeah, but just don't get the fries.

Just get another patty.

RON: Well, yeah.

So if you wanted to do a two by two RON: animal style DAVE: with fries, just get a three by three.

RON: Ooh, good advice from Canary in the cage.

We don't just save you from anything like all the bad stuff that happened.

We give you good advice.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: The triple at, oh wait, they're not sponsors.

DAVE: I don't care.

RON: Okay.

So In-N-Out.

If you wanted to sponsor us, we'll take this, we'll take it in hamburgers.

Apparently the triples.

DAVE: Three by three animal style.

RON: And then we also have about five guys.

Last year, five guys, like 20 bucks, cheeseburger fries.

DAVE: That sounds about right.

RON: Jesus, inflation's getting out of control.

But according to Biden, inflation's good.

DAVE: Yeah.

Well, yeah.

Inflation's back down again.

RON: Yeah.

He was, he was just in town.

He was in Phoenix and then here in Phoenix, he said he saved the $2 trillion.

And then a couple hours later here in Vegas, he's like, I've saved this country $100 trillion.

DAVE: So when he was here, he had his first success in office.

RON: Oh, what was that?

DAVE: So he was walking up the steps of the airplane and he didn't fall down.

But he made it all the way.

RON: They got like special shoes for him now.

DAVE: Well, I mean, RON: No, they do.

They, they, they, they, DAVE: that's what it takes.

RON: I mean, they think they're sketchers.

DAVE: The guy made it up the stairs.

RON: Well, I mean, the back or the front stairs.

DAVE: Um, I'm not sure.

RON: The back stairs are smaller inclined.

They're easier to climb.

So they've been, they've been loading him from the back lately.

So yeah.

What other else news is going on in this crazy, crazy world?

DAVE: We had a great Second Amendment win.

RON: Oh, well, which one?

DAVE: So an Obama appointed judge.

The case was an illegal alien was caught with a, with a, with a gun and they wanted

to say illegal possession of a weapon.

But the Obama appointed judge says, no, no, no, you can't, you can't violate his Second

Amendment rights.

You can't do that.

So, so the funny part is all these people that would have said two days ago, the Second

Amendment is there's no exceptions.

RON: Right.

DAVE: Now they're like, oh, he's an illegal alien.

RON: I've got a lot of questions about that.

So how does he buy a gun?

DAVE: Well, who said he bought it?

RON: No, no, I agree.

But I mean, if they, if they've given in Illinois, I'm no, it's federal, right?

So where was the president set in federal or just set in Illinois?

DAVE: This was just in Illinois.

RON: But if it's a federal judge, doesn't that present go across?

DAVE: I don't think it's a federal.

It's not a federal.

It's not even like reach the appeals yet.

It's like the first.

RON: No, I know she's made the ruling.

But, but if, if a new visitor wants to come and buy a gun and in Illinois, they're allowed

to possess the gun.

Are they allowed to buy a gun?

DAVE: If you use like a person to person sale.

RON: Well, no, no.

January 1st, all that change too.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you can't.

You have to, you have to go through a gun shop.

It's a very confusing law, but you can no longer.

So no, January 1st, 2024, DAVE: you can make one.

RON: You got three printer?

DAVE: Maybe he did.

RON: There you go.

DAVE: I don't answer questions like that.

RON: We're coming up with all kinds of solutions for this world.

Yeah.

No, I was kind of sick.

I mean, we buy a gun, you know, because there is no list of.

DAVE: Right.

RON: Guns that we own, but yet we go through a background check.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: So does he go through a background check?

DAVE: I mean, I don't, I don't know where he got the gun.

So no, RON: I know.

I guess I'm thinking more broader.

These illegal aliens.

DAVE: Well, if you, if you, I mean, when you do the 4473, like it asks, are you an illegal

alien?

RON: So you're going to check.

Yes.

DAVE: Well, he would check.

Yes.

RON: Yeah.

So if I buy a gun out of state, I have to ship it to a gun store in state to pick it up.

DAVE: Right.

RON: Does he ship it back to like what?

Honduras?

DAVE: I have no idea.

RON: Is he a cannibal?

DAVE: I don't know.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: I don't know.

Like what do he get picked up for?

RON: I'm watching that law because I'm actually very curious about it because DAVE: I don't understand

why they don't run with this.

Why don't they just, why don't they say like, look, like second amendment, you can't, can't

violate second amendment.

That therefore 4473s are unconstitutional.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: Therefore background checks are unconstitutional.

Like, why aren't they going that route?

RON: Because Republicans don't know how to fight.

DAVE: No, I don't think it's that simple.

I think it's, I think it's face and heel.

RON: Face and heel.

DAVE: They're just playing the heel.

RON: Yeah.

I don't know.

Cause I'm actually watching that case cause I am very curious about it.

Cause if we're going to arm the illegal aliens, I mean, I've kind of made that theory, that

process that they might be here to do ill will to us.

DAVE: I don't know.

So I, I came up with an interesting argument.

RON: Oh, sweet.

DAVE: The other day.

RON: This is about the first one on the podcast.

DAVE: So everybody says that we can't trust these people because they're coming here to harm

us and, and they're, they're violent and they're this and that and they're, now they're getting

guns and blah, blah, blah.

Right.

But so here's the thing.

All these people that are afraid of illegal aliens, right, they always follow the rules.

Right.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Just sign the 4473.

Just do the background check.

Just do this.

Just do that.

Just put the mask on. Just get the vaccine.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: You know, like all they do is follow rules.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: Now, how are we going to get rid of this overreaching, tyrannical governments if the people on our

side do nothing but follow rules?

RON: No, and that's true.

But let's, you know, let's, let's not forget about the, the militias that we have in this

country.

That's actually, I'm kind of watching where the fuck are they right now?

DAVE: Yeah, well there

Aren't any.

No, I mean a couple.

RON: I mean, no, cause I mean, you remember the Bundy Ranch thing here, right?

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: They showed up and they backed down the federal government.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: But that was a lot of Utah militia apparently.

I found that out.

DAVE: Yeah.

Well, the Bundys are all in that they're not Mormons, but they're very like weird

Christian-y.

RON: Yeah.

Cause I think one of them moved up to Idaho and ran for governor and lost.

Would have liked to see him.

DAVE: We had one run for governor.

RON: Oh, really?

DAVE: Yeah.

I voted for him.

RON: Oh, did you?

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Yeah.

I actually, I kind of dug the Bundy ranch because I didn't live here when that happened.

DAVE: Yeah, I didn't either.

RON: And it was hard to find any news on that.

I literally had to go search.

DAVE: They only live like 50 miles away.

RON: Yeah.

At Overton.

DAVE: I don't know the name.

RON: So there's actually a really cool bar in Overton.

It might be the only one I'm not sure, but they make really good Bloody Marys.

I don't know why that's important, but they have a big rooster outside the bar too.

Again, I don't know why that's important, but I kind of dug it.

DAVE: But yeah, my point is like, I want people that are willing to break the rules.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: Right.

Cause I mean, like let's say for example, hypothetically, let's say that it's actually

the Chinese government funding these people to come to America and take us over.

Right.

Let's say that that's actually happening.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Why the fuck once they get here, would they continue to obey the Chinese government?

It's like, fuck you, China.

I'm here.

I'm free.

Right.

RON: Yeah.

I know.

And I have thought about that quite a bit actually because you, you get to America.

I mean, we got a lot of flaws.

We got a lot of fucked up shit here, but pretty cool to live here.

So I mean, you know, you get, you get people, they, you know, they got, we got strip clubs

here.

They've never seen a naked woman outside of a barca.

Again, whatever.

I'm not even getting into that, but DAVE: there's, there's definitely bad actors.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: But like, I think if you, if you talk to some of these people and, and just be like, like,

hey man, like the government sucks, right?

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: Yeah.

And you don't give a fuck what their rules are.

Right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Then you're on our side.

RON: But don't you think the shit could go sideways just based on desperation.

DAVE: Well,

I mean, I mean, but who's going to be desperate?

Is it really going to be the resourceful?

You think they're going to be the ones who are desperate?

Or do you think the fat do nothing purple hair, you know, people that, that think food

comes from the grocery store are going to be the desperate ones?

No, it's going to be that.

And they have no guns because they're afraid of guns.

RON: Yeah.

But I mean, in this country, we've got more gun owners and we have purple hair people

that believe.

DAVE: Right.

RON: So I think, I mean, my, my fear is, and I mean, I can't talk about last week that I'm

a little nervous that they, there, there might be a plan we don't know about with the new

visitors.

Um, and, and it's speculation.

DAVE: I'm sure there might be, but I just, I don't think that plan will, will work out.

RON: But what happens when they, okay, like right now, New York is giving a select number of

them $10,000 a month on a, on a refill every month, they get $10,000.

New York's doing that.

DAVE: Right.

RON: And I believe I've been here and they give them a $2,000 card that refills every month.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: So right now they're not desperate, but what happens?

They get desperate.

They run out of money or, or we're not paying all of them.

Just a small percentage of them.

DAVE: Well, so like I said, I mean, a small, a small percentage of them are lazy, useless idiots

that are here to get the free handouts.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: But like the majority like are hardworking.

Like what, like, I mean, I know it's a fucking stupid trope, but like they're washing your

dishes, they're making your restaurant.

RON: Oh no, no, no.

I am not against illegal aliens.

DAVE: Like those people are not going to get desperate RON: if they're coming here to work.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Um, because I mean, no, honestly, there was a guy who presented a pretty good argument

that illegal aliens are one of the best things for our economy because they have a job that

they get a paycheck from.

They're paying their federal taxes.

They're saying they can't collect those.

DAVE: Most of them.

RON: So that money just stays there.

Uh, not my opinion, but this guy's opinion said a lot of them smoke.

So they're paying the tax on the cigarettes and the alcohol.

And so they're actually good for the economy.

And that may be true.

But here's the thing.

I'm also looking into what Purdue, the chicken people.

DAVE: Okay.

Yeah.

Or was it Tyson or Purdue?

RON: Oh shit.

I don't know.

DAVE: Well, I mean, what are they?

RON: One of you chicken people.

I don't know which one it was.

Um, they want the illegal aliens coming to work there.

DAVE: Right.

RON: Well, but that's, that's cheap labor.

DAVE: Of course.

I mean, I think you're going to pay them minimum wage.

RON: Are they going to pay them with farm dollars?

I think they so in the coal, so in the coal mines of coal mines with a bird,

they'd have a bird to protect them from this.

The coal miners were some of the coal miners were paid with, with company

dollars DAVE: scrip.

RON: Yeah.

And there was a guy down on Florida had a farm back in, it might have been in

2000 or late 90s.

He was paying his people with farm dollars.

And they had to buy stuff at his store.

And that's how they survived that.

I don't want.

DAVE: Um, I mean, if you're in a remote fucking middle of nowhere, like,

I doubt they're going to make it so burdensome that like you're going to die.

RON: If they're here, you know what?

So if they're here and they enjoy our constitutional rights, which we just

found out, then they should enjoy the pay, the money.

DAVE: Well, there shouldn't be a, there shouldn't be a minimum wage.

RON: That's, no, no, no.

And, but I'm not necessarily against that, but so let's use Vegas

Valley right now, for example.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Our, our cost of living is that the highest it's probably ever, definitely

at the highest it's ever been.

DAVE: Right.

RON: I mean when I moved here, $100,000, you were well off. DAVE: Yeah RON: That aint the case anymore. Thank you California.

I got friends and family in California and I really give them a hard time.

So it's more of a joke

So, who's getting the big raises in town right now?

DAVE: I have no idea.

The culinary unions, the metro, the police unions,

So I all these unions are getting these I'm talking like massive right raises and they deserve them and so do so the not

Well, so the non-union people don't tell I

Mean these casinos are they don't pay

Decent DAVE: well, so that's another thing like a lot of people don't know about is that most well

I don't want to say most but a lot of casino employees are tipped and

They have a special deal with the federal government where they're only taxed on

Let's say 40, I don't know the exact exact number, but let's say they're only taxed on $40,000 of income

RON: Yeah, DAVE: regardless of what they actually make RON: no, yeah, DAVE: and some of these people like if you're in the high limit rooms

I mean, they'll fucking throw you a thousand chip. RON: No the tipped employees. I get it. I mean there

I mean there's bartenders here actually I had a bartender tell me there's people like Applebee's you could if you do a good Applebee's as

A bartender you can make six figures huh with with the tips if you're in the right location

But it's not that it's okay. So my my problem goes a little bit bigger than that. It's when I lived in Denver

I

Live there for I think two and a half you actually live in Boulder, but I experienced Denver

They the service workers could not afford to live in Denver, right?

But they wanted to work in the big city

So they all had to move out to the suburbs and pile in the houses of seven eight people deep at a house

So they could afford to live because the cost of living I lived there one

I think I moved there in like late 15

I think I left there in 17 but

The cost of living in general was was fairly low the cost of housing was insane

So they all had to like scatter DAVE: yeah RON: into like different areas and you know tent cities who knows that they had a lot of tent cities there

But that's the one that's what I'm worried about here

So you've got housekeepers

Janitorial staff maintenance workers you got a lot of employees that make that casino home along that aren't paid well at all

And some of them are not even getting raises this year because they're like oh we you know the economy

We can't give out raises any company that doesn't give a raise out based on years of service fuck you all right

That's and that my company's trying shit like that right now till

if you don't if your employees not good enough for a raise fire them and find one that is

Give your employees raises

If you if you want them to be dedicated to you DAVE: that's that's only the illegals who you can't pay over the tables

I

Mean that's another thing is like American workers are just fucking stupid. Yeah, they're incompetent. They're stupid

We go to 12 years of public school that and you come out a fucking moron like you come out dumber than when you went in

Yeah, and I mean we have no

It's the whole thing at once right it's the fall of Rome type of thing

Yeah, where there's just no fucking fix for this RON: but getting back to the service workers here

Where do they move to again Denver there were suburbs? DAVE: Yeah, RON: we don't have suburbs right?

DAVE: I mean we kind of do but RON: Pahrump? DAVE: they're what the rich suburbs RON: Mesquite

DAVE: Well, those aren't suburbs like suburbs here. RON: I know but that's what I'm saying right from from all of me Henderson. DAVE: Yeah

RON: Cheyenne is a Cheyenne is but that's still Vegas up there isn't it? I have no I think parts of it is it's it's north north Vegas is

North Las Vegas pretty much it but there's no I mean you can probably save 200 bucks a month

I live in north Las Vegas. Yeah, that's it

DAVE: But they can still keep building though because we just have nothing but desert

RON: Well, no we have BLM property

So I didn't have a lot of land up. DAVE: I thought I read something about

Governor Lombardo was trying to buy some of some of that property from the feds

RON: All right, DAVE: I don't know if it was in the Vegas area or what but I thought I remember reading something about that

RON: Yeah, but it's you know it so I have a concern around here that we're gonna lose our service worker

Then it's gonna be a problem for the casinos. Obviously, they're not gonna allow it to happen

But they need to step up soon. DAVE: Yeah, RON: I mean we do have a mass exit that's going out with the low-level workers right now

They can't afford to live here, right? And they're saying I have to leave but they can't I can't I can't live here anymore

But they want to stay right but I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. I don't know how to solve that problem either

DAVE: It's not a great place to put a city anyway

RON: Yeah, I would have loved to have been alive when they they're looking down at this valley and going it's a hundred and twenty degrees out

117s the highest Vegas has ever got so but what but death Valley is like an hour from here

And that's the hottest place on earth whatever

Going yeah, this is the place. Let's build some buildings here. DAVE: I think it was they just were like this is the only place

No one's gonna fuck with us, right? RON: Oh, no, it's very a very protectable valley from like the federal government DAVE: and anybody

I mean well Indians. Oh

RON: new visitors. Yeah

If they organize are coming at us. Yeah. Yeah, we're in a good spot to protect ourselves

Yeah, so no, I guess I just hope that this gets fixed so because

It's the future of Vegas is not looking good right now for for people that don't make good money, DAVE: right

RON: I mean, we're a great city to live in it's a fun city to be in but it's not that fun. Don't move here

Unless you're from anywhere, but California if you from a blue state, it's really bad here

No, I came here from Illinois. What the hell am I talking about? DAVE: I know a lot of ex-Chicago ins here

RON: Yeah, DAVE: I keep running into them all the time. Yeah, I remember you RON: well actually Colorado got a bunch of Chicagoans too in

2015 I lived in a

An apartment complex in Boulder and it was probably only I don't know 250 300 units. They were at least 15 people for Chicago

DAVE: Well, it's probably shitty ones though

What is that like you got the leftist like I want to smoke some pot. RON: No because so I mean if you go back a couple years ago

Boulder was blue. Colorado was red. Yeah, so it was a Republican state for the longest time

But that changed because the Fort was at Fort Collins down to

Colorado Springs all went blue and that's where the massive people are in Colorado. Interesting

I mean, you know the Western slope. It's nothing but small little towns. Yeah, and then you got the ski resorts

Oh, even the ski the ski instructors. They were paying

was in

17 or 18

That'd be 17. They were paying $500 a month to sleep on a couch

Because they couldn't afford it anywhere else. DAVE: Wow. RON: so I really hope we realize what's gonna happen here before it happens

We can kind of fix it

Again, that's sometimes I'm trying to work on that if I were to get elected, but again, I mean

One person can't make a change. Give me good. DAVE: Especially if you're in the libertarian party

RON: That is true, but I could be an obstructionist

DAVE: There you go

RON: I can be the proverbial turd in the punch bowl and I'll be a big old turd in the punch bowl all kinds of peanuts and corn

You can see that in there. I'll show you what I ate last couple days. Put me in keep put me in Carson City. DAVE: Oh Taco Bell

RON: No because it comes out too quick

It's like sliders from White Castle. They're called sliders for a reason people but try them anyway, they're good

Hmm

Where are we at, it's kinda been over half an hour of current events DAVE: sounds about right

RON: So do you want to do you got tech thing to talk about? DAVE: I can go first if you want. RON: Yeah, go ahead

DAVE: All right, so like I mentioned last week today, we're gonna be talking about the dark web

So there's really two big players

In dark web services the first one is Tor and the second one is I2P also known as the invisible Internet project

RON: Okay, DAVE: so most people have probably heard of Tor even though they probably don't know what it is

RON: Yeah, that's exactly what RON: you hear the word flying around

So the they're both kind of based around a similar principle where

You have a network of computers that are all talking to each other and they're all talking encrypted to each other

And let's say I want to go to your service from my computer

So normally on the regular Internet, I just go directly to you and we talk back and forth

So if you if you do it over the dark web, what happens is I look in this

Network of computers that I'm tech connecting to and I say hey does anyone know Ron anyone and then like one a random

Computer will talk to me and say yeah, I know I know Ron or I can get you to Ron

So then I will encrypt a message to that guy

He will do the same and then it goes along a random path through that network

And usually it's like three hops to you know make it still fast

RON: Okay, DAVE: so eventually like I talked to guy one he talks to guy two

Guy two talks to guy three and then guy three talks to you and then the message comes back through the same path

Or can it can come through a different path.

RON: Okay, DAVE: so that's how it that's how you maintain your anonymity

RON: Okay, DAVE: so so anyone anyone from the outside spying on all this all they see is just a jumble of computers talking to each other

They don't know who's talking to who like what that I'm actually talking to Ron. They just see random junk flying around

so the major difference between Tor and I2P is

on Tor

You can run what's called an exit node and an exit node is I don't really want to talk to Ron

I want to talk to Facebook

RON: Okay, DAVE: and Facebook's a public company and they have public-facing computers and all that shit

So instead of going on the normal web and straight to Facebook

I would go through this

Network this web of you know random computers talking to each other through that encrypted path and then to Facebook

So there's one guy

Sitting on the edge running the exit node that talks to Facebook rather than the random jumble

Make sense. RON: So I'm hanging in there. DAVE: Okay, so I wish I had like a picture

RON: Dry raceboard back here. We can like flowchart. DAVE: It's too late now. We're already very live. RON: Yeah, hold on. I'll be right back

Yeah, I can't find the canary but we're gonna dry raceboard real fucking quick

DAVE: but oh so so so a bunch of people on Tor are running these exit nodes that

enable you to talk to Facebook to Google to whoever you want to talk to on the normal web and

I2P doesn't have this concept at all

So when you go to I2P

You can only stay in that jumble

Right, there's no Facebook

There unless Facebook themselves is in the group. RON: I get that

DAVE: So yeah, they there's

Different reasons you might want to use one or the other

I mean Tor you would you would use if you want to talk to Facebook

But if so the problem is if you're sending

Sensitive data

The guy who's running that exit node can spy on some of your data

Because he's talking to Facebook

RON: Okay, DAVE: so he can't see your password because that's still encrypted all the way through but he can see

You know you went to my Facebook page because you went to slash Dave Havlicek

and

And the problem here is that

Something like 70% of these exit nodes are the US government RON: see that that's my concern about the dark web

What kind of control do they have over this?

DAVE: The government? RON: yeah

DAVE: Effectively no control, but they can run their own computers that are on it. RON: So I could trap people

DAVE: Well only with Tor because with Tor they run the exit node and they have that

You know that line they can spy on but in I2P everything is encrypted between everyone

So unless the government is the guy running the destination that I go to

They don't know who's talking to them. And even if they are they don't know who I am

Right they just know I got a random request for this web page. Here you go now. RON: Can you set up

Communication channels with certain people that were all that are always active or use I guess

I'm thinking that if shit goes sideways that you want to talk to somebody. DAVE: Yeah, RON: they easy easy to find to

Start planning to how to survive kind of

DAVE: There are chat services on the on both

It's not

Easiest thing in the world to figure out. I mean they have instructions, but you got to carefully follow and know that stuff

It's getting better. I mean people are figuring out like oh, we need to make this more user-friendly

And I'm actually helping them work with that. RON: Oh cool. DAVE: Yeah, but I mostly stay on I2P

I don't hang out on Tor very much RON: now

It was a dark web is this true that was started by the military that was their communication channel DAVE: Tor was

Well Tor was funded by it. Okay, not started specifically, but fun. Okay a lot of funding. RON: Yeah

DAVE: Yeah, so it in Tor is the easiest one to get on so you just go to the go to Google or don't go to Google go to

I use Brave search go to Brave search. RON: What is duck duck go a good one or not?

DAVE: Yeah, not really they do the same shit Google's doing they spy on you they they curate your results

RON: It's like a Democrat. They say they're not doing it. They lie to you, but they're actually doing it. DAVE: Yeah, RON: okay

DAVE: So go to go to Brave search and search for Tor browser

And it's a hardened browser. I think it's based on Firefox

It'll get you right RON: I like Firefox. DAVE: They'll get you right on the Tor network

And you can go to normal websites right away, but you can also go to the secret

They're called .onion ones, but you have to know the address

RON: Okay, DAVE: so on the normal web right you have Facebook.com. RON: Yeah

DAVE: But on the dark web, there's no way there's no such thing as a domain, right?

Oh, so you have to know this random string of numbers

RON: Jesus DAVE: and there's there's so when you when you sign up Tor doesn't work this way, but when you go on I2P

You run an app that gets you in and the app has a lot of tutorials

And it has a lot of sites you can visit as a starting point and from there you can go and find others

RON: Wow, okay. Yeah, so if the government was to let's well

I'm sorry if if our internet was hacked and shut down by our government not by China

Would the black web still exist? DAVE: Well, it would exist outside of America

I mean like if the whole internet shut down then you can't even get out of your own apartment. RON: Okay

That's why they know if it was like if it was okay, I'm very stupid when it comes to the dark web

DAVE: Yeah, I mean like so people are working on ways around that as well

So for example, you're your Wi-Fi your Wi-Fi router can talk to other routers in the neighborhood

RON: Okay, DAVE: and if every router does that you can have your own internet

You know over the airwaves. RON: Oh, okay. DAVE: It's it's what it's called a mesh network

So people are working on how to set that up for yourself. It's not it's not super robust at the moment

But if we get this thing going you could at least have in your city

Some kind of network access. RON: You know that actually would be very valuable. DAVE: Yeah RON: in the event of

Problems. DAVE: Yeah, so I mean that could be a future topic, but

It's super bare bones at the moment like I don't even have a mesh network

RON: Okay, DAVE: and even if I did there'd be no one to talk to because nobody else has one RON: you'll use the internet to play with yourself

DAVE: Yeah, RON: oh wait hold on a second. I'm just talking to yourself because I mean everyone's on the net play with himself

There's a lot of porn. DAVE: Yeah, so so Tor. It's kind of hard to find onions unless you know like you got a search

You know, what's the onion address of this and that? Oh, so another thing that's nice is a lot of sites

In the HTML code of your website you can say

Here's a Tor link where you can get me on Tor and

Some browsers like brave does this and the Tor browser will do it. We'll say oh these guys have a Tor link

Let's load the Tor version instead

So it will automatically redirect you from Facebook.com to Facebookblahblahblah.onion

RON: Very interesting. DAVE: I2P doesn't have that yet because there is no outside access

But yeah to get I2P you go geti2p.net

And that's kind of where the real stuff is done. I mean like like I said Tor is a government project

They're they're using it to spy on you

as long as you stay in the onion domain you're probably safe, but

I2P is the big the next big thing. That's what I'm putting my eggs in

RON: So this mesh group we're talking about is that can that be done does it have to be people locally?

Around us or could it be like people like our followers or all the people we have following us all three of you

DAVE: I do you mean like the Wi-Fi mesh thing or RON: no, I'm just thinking the case of there if there is an issue

We need we want to get messages out to people or people. Yeah, that's only local DAVE: well, so it's local, but

You know if Elon Musk says hey, I got Starlink

You know then you can hit the satellite and the satellites can go around the earth

RON: So is Starlink worth having because I've thought about that. DAVE: I I don't know. I I mean I've heard good things, but I

Don't know what the bandwidth is like. I don't know what the latency is like

I mean it's

It's something that

Doesn't have you tied down

To you know Cox or Comcast or whoever the fuck RON: no I like that because I was I was

One point I've been trying to figure out how to do a homestead in an urban environment

DAVE: Yeah, RON: and I mean like totally off the grid, right? I mean unfortunately in Nevada

We have to be on their electrical grid no matter what but I'll put a light bulb in a fixture is a that's on your grid

The rest of my house is not on the grid because I've got a plan with some battery

The solar generators and some other stuff kind of link it together to provide free electricity to my house

DAVE: Right, RON: and I've been talking to some electrical engineers trying to figure out how this works

And I just lost where I was going with that, but no, but so I just

So yeah, so I was looking at different ways like even like burying a water tank in the backyard

Getting some form of a septic system in even though I the sewer will never go down

Hopefully that'd be a nasty nasty thing if the sewer went down

But and then and Starlink was my was my internet and I was even thinking about like

Just having a cell phone here in the house that only hooks to Starlink. DAVE: Yeah, RON: you know that kind of stuff

DAVE: Right, right. So I would say like with the mesh stuff

Don't think you're gonna go out and buy something right now that that will have you ready to go

Like just just follow the news on it if you can RON: okay, I will I'm interested in that

DAVE: But with respect to like the dark web as it is now, I mean that shit's all ready to go

So, you know get Tor browser fuck around with it see what you can do

Get get the I2P app

Follow the tutorials run through it

Now what the one thing people always ask me like oh once I'm on I2P. Well, what can I do here, right?

so

My opinion on that is that's the wrong question to ask so

Imagine you're

You're a guy in you know the late 1700s and you feel like I'm gonna go out west, right?

Now is do would you ask well, what can I do out west? RON: Oh

I see no, DAVE: no, there's nothing there right? Yeah, so what you should be asking is what can I build there?

Right because because it's the Wild West on on the dark web right now, RON: right?

And I have a question about that when you're done, but go ahead. DAVE: Yeah, so I mean if you have an idea of

Something that you want to host that maybe your government isn't friendly to

I2P is the place to do it because they can't find you they don't know who's talking to who they don't even know where

Even if they find that service, they don't know where that service is

RON: Okay, well this might be a good example of just how our country works

Me being a layman with the internet. I mean I can I can find my shit on the internet stuff

But I've always been told you know the black web stay off of it. It's bad. It's dirty

You can get a prostitute hooker or the same thing out drugs

You can hire a hit man. DAVE: You can well, I don't know about a hitman

RON: Yeah, but you get on the regular enough, but they're like but they can find you they can track you is the dark web really that scary

DAVE: Well, let me tell you this I use my real name there. I'm pretty much the only one that does there's a couple people

I'm not afraid. I mean everyone's pretty friendly. It's like it's like being on the internet in the late or the early 90s

Right like, you know, if you're not a fucking dickhead, yeah, then no one's gonna fuck with you

RON: Okay

Interesting because I mean I've I've wanted to toy around with it, but I'm just like I just don't know enough about computers

And I don't want to like, you know, some bling somebody don't belong

DAVE: Yeah, it's it's pretty much impossible to do that. So like when you when you grab the I2P application

And you go to those starter sites like those are run by people that are trusted with the within the community

They are very much against

Uh

Hitmen and cheese pizza and other stuff like that. RON: What's wrong with them? I mean hitman need to exist

They gotta feed their families too. DAVE: Like I said, I'm sure that stuff is there somewhere, but you won't find it

Going through the normal

Tutorials RON: so I mean in your opinion

Should someone who's curious about the dark web go on and explore. DAVE: Oh, absolutely. RON: Oh, okay

DAVE: 100%

RON: All right, you heard it here first. Don't listen to the media dark web is not that scary

Just don't be a dick because you'll find out how scary that fucking place is

Okay, interesting

Anything else? DAVE: I think about covers unless you have some questions

RON: No, I mean, I think you know my biggest one is was you know, can't will this exist if the internet was shut down?

DAVE: Yeah, I mean, it'll be out there somewhere in some country

RON: Yeah, and if you can get on the internet because you use a VPN from your house, but you would still need internet to use a VPN

DAVE: Right, RON: okay, so we're screwed. They shut the internet down. DAVE: Yeah, if you have no internet

I mean you got bigger problems than RON: well, I mean, we're still hooked up wired and everything

I don't know. I don't know if there's like a button they can push they just shut the internet down

DAVE: Well, not the whole internet, but they can shut you down

RON: Bastards, DAVE: yeah, RON: okay interesting. Okay. I like that

So I guess we'll move over to the prep section. DAVE: Cool. RON: So like I've said in the past

I kind of like come all over the damn place

So what I've decided to do is just just hit the nuts and bolts of prepping

I'm gonna start at the beginning and we're gonna go through it all and I'm gonna try to stay organized

But I learned something this week

DAVE: Oh, yeah, RON: I didn't know that the media and the federal government thought preppers were all white supremacist

DAVE: I thought they were

I mean, that's what I heard. RON: No, no, no

The reason that story came out is apparently the black community are becoming preppers. Yeah, so

Welcome to the prepper society black people. I love you. We love you all brothers and sisters. Let's get together

Let's help you guys out get you caught up

Maybe you can give us some advice because I know a lot of you've been prepping before this so I want to welcome you or

At least maybe learn from you

So what I yeah, it was just really weird that they came out and

They were trying to they've been trying to scare you off of being a prepper by each racist. Oh wait shit

Oh, not supporting EV vehicles as racist now

That came out today the federal government came out today with that. Well, that's that's their desperation. DAVE: Yeah

RON: So I want to discuss why it's important to prep. I think that might be the first step here

We're not scary people. We're not white supremacist

We're not racist. We're not homophobic. We're I don't care black gay. Let's all prep together

And forming a prepping community is very is actually very important

Because you can all benefit off of each other. So

Let's forget about what the media says about prepping and let's just worry about how to protect ourselves

Our family and maybe even some extent our neighbors and our friends

So the there's I got six things here of why you would want to prep

One of them is an unexpected emergency

You could lose your job. You can get sick get hurt

You know, maybe even a car repair bill, you know, if you don't have what car shield not a sponsor yet

Car shield we are looking at you

You got to pay this bill. I mean and at this point it's $500 to take a car nowadays

So the reason why I say prepping is important if you have a supply of food already set aside

You would you could actually forego your groceries for a week or two

Trying to help offset that cost of the car repair bill. It's that simple. That's that's one form of prepping

Yes, I understand preppers are going to guns and bullets. No, my though. That's scary

But we've already we just learned the black web is not scary like we've been told no so gun owners. Guess what? We're not scary either

We're just good hard-working Americans

But so if you if you do prep properly you have a luscious garden

You got your whether you have the the one of those things called a Patriot supply the MREs

You have those your garden, you know that kind of just can't can food works

Beans and cornbread is a good solid meal

So don't be afraid to have that so that you can actually help offset some unexpected cost

But I cut them back on food because I'm telling you right now a bag of potato chips seven dollars

Yeah, what the actual fuck? DAVE: Yep, and they're mostly air still. RON: Yeah, and there's less potato chips in them

There was a news story about that

Jesus they're screwing us

And then another reason is to help others you guys I get this you know, it's it's dark times

We're all going through this

We're all stumbling trying to find our way to pay our bills and and have food on our table

And if something I'm not saying it will help people out if you can

But if shit goes sideways and we want to

We have the food protect your family first

But have some for your friends and neighbors if necessary or if you already have a community

You'll actually have a lot more set up and a lot more prepped so you could actually survive some scary days

I mean because I mean it's I

Think I was Ron Paul was on Tucker Carlson and he's expecting a black flag event. I think it's a black flag

No, I'm a black swan. Black swan event

And I know Ron Paul people have you know discount him a lot

but he's actually a pretty smart intelligent guy and

I followed him for quite a few years

DAVE: Well, the other thing is if you have a group of people that you're doing this with right you can benefit from the division of labor

So RON: yeah, DAVE: you can have the food guy. Yep, you can have the car repair guy. You can have the computer guy

So it's what people in your network. RON: It's funny. You're gonna be running me with a story. So I'm gonna

Lose the focus, but it's proper. It's proper related. I swear. It's proper related. You know, I live in Chicago

I didn't even even knowing about prepping and

Then I moved to Tennessee for like six months. DAVE: Oh, yeah, there you go

RON: Yeah, and some guys like oh, he's been something and there's a few of us that are preppers

What's the prepper he goes? Oh, we can't talk about we don't talk about that stuff

What the fuck should say the word for cuz I'm curious

And I looked it up and I started looking it was actually really enticing to me

You know, and then we moved to Colorado

and I was at a brewery and

Man, it was a little small town outside of Boulder in Denver. I

didn't work now whatever it doesn't matter and I

Mention I was talking to a guy I mentioned the word prepper and he's like, oh, yeah

Yeah, we have a whole prepper community here in this county. He's like we're we have doctors. We have nurses

We have our armories. We have our food people

He's like that guy's a prepper my community that person that ladies a prepper my community

They he just I mean he was just like hey, we're all preppers here. Whoo, you know, Tennessee. They're like, don't tell anybody

but but still so

so

You know, let's talk about it talk to your neighbors about prepping and it started community because Dave's right

You know, you can all focus on different stuff and maybe you might be able to accomplish your neighborhood

Maybe there's somebody who can't afford to to pay to buy stuff to prep

But maybe they can help you in your garden. Maybe they can get sweat equity in your prepper community

That's let's do this because we're Americans and we're gonna no matter what happens if anything happens

We're gonna come back from it. I mean we are American

We are strong DAVE: Get some illegal aliens in your prepper community. RON: Actually, I'm hiring something illegals to work

New visitors to run my garden this year. DAVE: There you go. RON: Yeah, a quarter a day a fucking quarter

Exactly can't beat that. I know well, where else can you get that kind of labor?

So so it is good to have the community help others

You know, you know economic reasons that kind of kind of goes back to the unexpected things

You can have it all set up ahead of time to where you can forgo spending money because you gotta get your food protected

And the one thing that the government has over us is control of our food and that is disgusting to me

Did you hear today? Maybe yesterday? What uh, oh

Bezos his new girlfriend said I'm not gonna discuss the way she looks. DAVE: She looks horrible. RON: You see those lips? I

Don't want to shame. DAVE: That's not worth 38 billion dollars

RON: Oh, there's a prenup in that one

So she is so Bill Gates and Bezos they're all they're all rushing to get this plant-based food

Cuz meat's bad

And that's another thing you know find a good rancher a local rancher goodbye me from even here in Vegas

We have ranchers that we could buy meat from from so but she's like it's really funny because I heard it and I'm like

I was waiting for them to respond it as soon as the podcast kickback

From her speech to their commentary they picked up on the exact same thing that I heard and she's like oh, no

Plant-based food is really good. It's healthy. It's good to eat. I tried it once and it was really good

DAVE: Once?

RON: One time

Why not two? yeah, what are you not telling us fucking probably have they probably have cows with their bunkers

DAVE: Yeah, of course they do RON: because we got what how many people are good bunkers now? DAVE: I want a bunker

RON: I would love a bunker. I'm fucking awesome of a bunker

But yeah, so even this this you know if you don't know what I'm talking about look into it because it's scary

You will eat the bugs and like it. There's a quote from a guy saying that

It's that that's what they're trying to do to us there because apparently cow farts are bad for the environment

DAVE: That's how we save the planet we cow farts. We got get rid of cow farts. RON: I

Am trying to get rid of them by eating those fuckers

DAVE: Yeah, RON: so and then another reason what our prep is a failing infrastructure

And it could be as simple as I mean when I lived in Seattle

We've Seattle likes to lose bridges. They just they just fall

They collapse they get hit by a truck or a boat. They just collapsed

So you get trapped in different areas where food may not be plentiful

At least for a couple days or a couple weeks you got you got food

You know you if you got the food already set up and your supplies set up

It's not really just food a solar generator is good to have I've talked about that before but it's it's it's good

You just have a well-rounded proper cabinet or proper garage or prepper storage unit whatever no matter how far you want to go into this

Just to carry you through for a few days or even a few months if necessary

You know another natural disasters and here in Vegas. Do we have a natural disaster here?

DAVE: Um, we had an earthquake couple years ago. Do you remember that?

RON: You I heard about that is it like an aftershock or something? DAVE: Yeah, the quake was in California

Yeah, but we lived on the ninth floor at the time and

It was like seven in the morning and like everything's shaking right and I'm still half asleep and I I'm like I go to my wife

Like why are you jumping on the bed?

Right like half asleep like I don't know what the fuck's going on and she's like no, we're gonna die

There's an earthquake

I'm like, we're not gonna die. RON: So I mean, you know, I've lived in tornado alleys

I've lived in snow snowy climates. I've done a lot of the natural death an earthquake. It's gonna shit out of me

I don't know. I mean, but whatever but but if I've prepped properly

Who cares?

I'm ready for it

So, yeah, no, so you got to worry about even natural disasters and that's simple

You know you some people live in the Midwest. You can get me. I mean, what was it?

Buffalo gets snow. They'll get so an inch. They get so in feet. DAVE: Yeah

RON: But you motherfuckers know how to get around that stuff

You just like dig out and get to work

Well, I can be in Chicago if we had dibs you know dibs is right

DAVE: Yeah, RON: you dig out that parking spot that parking spot yours for 48 hours. Don't park in that parking

Don't move that don't move that trash can your car will not be safe

um, and then there's the the the worst reason we want to prep for and

um, this is kind of why I I was wanting to start this podcast

um

I'm not selling fear. I'm not saying anything bad. It's gonna happen. I'm saying that the possibility

is at a greater

risk of happening

within my life

You know, I I don't know what happened, you know decades ago centuries ago

But what I'm seeing is it's not good. So there could be human caused disasters coming up

It could be as simple as you know somebody take out an electrical grid. DAVE: It's gonna be a bloodbath

RON: It's gonna be a bloodbath. But what exactly is a bloodbath? DAVE: Well, we're gonna find out this november. RON: Yeah

DAVE: Whether trump wins or trump loses. It's gonna be a bloodbath. RON: Yeah, shit's gonna kick off. Um, yeah, we're not encouraging that so

Uh, uh, real quick statement on that if shit kicks off

You just bought your gun three weeks ago. Stay in your fucking house. DAVE: Yeah

RON: Stay in your basement getting the closet getting your bathtub. Stay in your house

Don't go out and think you've got a gun and you can start throwing lead around and be successful

Um, you know, and I and that's probably good advice for about anybody. Let let let happen

What's gonna happen and we'll rebuild from there as long as you're prepped properly. You'll you'll you'll make it through

Uh, you know, get you your neighbors locked down your community if if something does go sideways

Um, but I I do believe that there might be some some some dark days coming

Uh, so just prep for it

I I I don't I don't want to get into too deep into this but but it is the scariest time of my lifetime

To what could actually happen within our government within our within our country

Uh, just based on what I'm researching and and finding out and hearing and I I understand

Not all information we gather is true

Some is true some's a lie some is put there to make us to to deceive us

So you have to kind of find that you that voice within the stuff you're reading and listening to

To try to understand what's gonna happen. I'm just like fuck it all

I don't care what's gonna happen. I'm gonna be prepared. I'm gonna write it out

And then we'll rebuild after that if something was to happen because honestly, I don't see how the democrats

can let trump win

um

So, yeah, oh

We started I I put a little uh cliffhanger out there. I never covered it. DAVE: Oh, yeah? RON: Kennedy. DAVE: Oh, yeah

RON: So we're gonna jump off prepping things. I I want to discuss Kennedy on the libertarian ticket. DAVE: Which Kennedy?

Oh, um, john f. DAVE: Oh, oh, John f. RON: Yeah, yeah, DAVE: The government killed him. RON: Yeah, we dug him up

Yeah, we got dna

DAVE: Yeah, RON: and we spun it around and we had little john f for a while and then he grew to a big john f

And now he's ready to run

Now you know the kid he'd run for president. What is his name again? DAVE: Robert F RON: Robert Kennedy

I actually saw him speak at area 15 about a month about uh six weeks ago. DAVE: Interesting. RON: I dig him. I do

I I I could never support him or vote for him

Because of 65 or 66 you don't change your views on guns and he's been anti-gun

DAVE: He's anti a lot of things. RON: Yeah, well, he's anti-vaxxer that kind of fits in the libertarian

DAVE: He takes that like way further than I mean like

Okay, the COVID vaxx is not a vaccine, right? That's right. And here comes our youtube ban

um

But he's against like the fucking measles vaxx. I mean you were talking about measles is making a comeback. Well, shit like

But I know the vaccine isn't like the the be all end all that but that actually works

Like that's been tested for 50 fucking years. RON: Well, but things that work can still cause harm

DAVE: Of course and there are there are documented cases where I mean like if you go on the VAERS database

I don't know. I don't know if I told you this but I downloaded

Their shitty database

Which is all in a big text format and I put it into a real database so I can do querying and stuff

And and it was mostly for the COVID vaxx, but they have all the vaccines in there

So like you can see x number of people died after taking MMR vaccine or x people got paralyzed or x people got this

So, I mean there are cases of this for sure

RON: Well, actually there was a lawsuit in canada right now

About a girl who had adverse effects from the vaccine and they're allowing it to go through court

And some of the stuff that's come out in discovery is pretty fucking scary DAVE: interesting

RON: Canada had to acknowledge before they even got the vaccine that

That canada is responsible for any damages that caused because this is not a tested vaccine

Again, I mean, you know, this is a this is the lawyer speaking

So I'm assuming stuff he's saying is at least somewhat true

DAVE: Yeah, but but the whole like the causes autism like that's a bunch of bullshit. RON: Well, no, but I had okay

Did you hear him do have you heard him in interviews on these vaccines? DAVE: I haven't heard him, but I've heard

Similar or people with similar views. RON: Yeah, but this dude brings the receipts

DAVE: I mean, I've looked at a lot of those studies

RON: So I don't know if he's right or wrong because that should get above my head

but he

He is blaming the rise in autism on some of the rise in autism because autism. It's such a wide spectrum. I mean

DAVE: So, do you know the original story about that? RON: We're all autistic. DAVE: Do you know the original story about that? RON: No

DAVE: I think it was in the 80s

This guy this doctor in the UK

He he was making his own version of the mmr vaccine

RON: Okay, DAVE: and he wanted the government contract

To be taken away from the current

mmr vaccine

RON: Okay, DAVE: so he invented he just made it up out of nothing

Saying and he didn't even say all vaccines or all mmr vaccines. He said this specific

government approved mmr vaccine

Causes autism and look at my study. I just did and he just he literally made it up

And and that's what the myth started

RON: Yeah, but you keep in mind. I mean the the work in spares it there is I do believe would start by our government

Um, because what better thing to have if you're our government?

All right, he's crazy there's he's crazy. I don't listen to him. He's crazy. DAVE: But that's all documented

RON: So people put out fake shit. I don't know. I don't know this guy. I don't know what he did DAVE: his name is Andrew Wakefield

RON: Did you check his bank account after you made that announcement? DAVE: No, I was barely born. RON: Okay

Uh, but you know, I mean

The rise in autism has risen. DAVE: Yes, RON: there's there could there could be numerous reasons that is happening

DAVE: But one of the reasons is that like we just didn't even call it anything back then

RON: Well, well that goes back to the Aspergers that goes back to that where it's like or before Aspergers

It was hey the kid ain't right. I mean that was a better diagnosis. DAVE: Do you believe that 10% of people are trans?

RON: Um, I believe that media is pushing the trans agenda

And it's being funded by the pharmaceutical companies DAVE: Hasn't the media also pushed the autism agenda? Well, there you go

There's your explanation. RON: I mean, I agree. I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out and I honestly

I mean, I'm not having kids anymore. My current kids not autistic

Um, so I you know, I'm not getting into that because I don't know what's about it. DAVE: Plus they call it the spectrum

Why why do they call it that because people who are perfectly fucking normal?

They want to have in the autism spectrum. RON: Yeah, I want to be something. I want to be diagnosed with something

DAVE: Well, I don't want to be diagnosed with iRON: why not? Oh, I could be I could be

so I um

I I don't always get along with people

Strangers sometimes I get into it. DAVE: Well, so I want an excuse

RON: So I told my wife just tell them I'm in the spectrum. DAVE: Yeah, exactly. You want an excuse? RON: I mean

Am I am I uh stealing valor on this one? I don't know

So talk to you for a little bit because yeah, so I know so we're getting off topic. Stop doing that, Dave

um, so

The B. B. I've been against Kennedy as on the libertarian party since day one. DAVE: Yeah

RON: I learned something today. DAVE: Yeah, RON: again, I know a couple things today, obviously

um

If he's polling about 15%

And he's on the libertarian ticket. DAVE: Yeah, RON: he's allowed the debates

DAVE: Okay, RON: and if he retains and he gets 15% of the vote

We're a recognized party in the next presidential election recognized by federal funding the debates. So it's it's

Sort of good for the libertarian party. He's sort of a bad candidate, but seriously gary johnson

DAVE: The thing is

Well, yeah, gary johnson is a fucking idiot, right?

But but if you get kennedy up there in the debates

He's gonna embarrass the shit out of us like he's gonna like people already think libertarians are idiots

If you can put this guy up there, they're gonna say, hi man. I was wrong. They're fucking retarded. RON: No

Oh, oh, man. There goes the R- word. We're done. Yeah, everyone's kicking us off now. We just got the dark web

So coming to you through the dark web. Thanks for watching. Um, no

Again gary johnson in an interview

Said I quit smoking potter and ran for president

I did I mean and then they asked him DAVE: but that was before the whole Mises caucus took over and

Yeah, like we like we have so this is the way I look at it, right?

We're not there to get elected or to get federal funding

Or or to get on the debate stage or I mean that would be nice

But but the reason we're we're a party

Is to just spread the word

Right and and if we dilute that word with people like kennedy, right? There is no word anymore. RON: Jo Jorgensen

How'd she do it press spread that word?

DAVE: I mean she started off really strong

So the thing with her was like she she was on the Tom Woods show, shout out to Tom Woods. Yeah

RON: Hey, tom wood if you want sponsors, we're here for you

DAVE: And and she said a lot of great stuff on there and then like two weeks later

She goes on twitter and tweets black lives matter and and like, you know, like we're not racist

We're not against blacks lives mattering, but it's a fucking communist slogan

And it's not about lives matter. RON: No, I agree

DAVE: communist appeasals RON: and it was a money grabbing scheme for a bunch of people DAVE: and and why the fuck would she go out there and say that

Right, like you don't have to say that RON: she's pan pandering

DAVE: Well, and then she lost all her support instantly

So I was ready to vote for this woman and then she just fucking threw it in the toilet

Yeah, I need people that aren't like that. RON: I was involved with some of her like speeches online

I'd watch them and I wanted to make an educated decision or want to vote for her or not

And I'm just like listen to her. I didn't know anything about her, but she is from Vernon Hills, Illinois

Which I thought was kind of interesting. I didn't know that

Um, yeah, she was too wishy-washy and she wasn't DAVE: We need Ron Paul out there

RON: Yeah, I mean if you want to run libertarian run strong, you know, be ready to fight be ready ready to throw down anytime

DAVE: I'm gonna be at the the national convention in may. RON: Yeah, DAVE: Memorial Day weekend. I'm not voting for Kennedy. I'm voting against

I want to boo him. I hope he's there so I can boo RON: I get it

But if he can if he can make oh, yeah, you got a point

I just thought that you know, because he's gonna still votes from

DAVE: By I'm glad he does that. Absolutely

RON: But if he could just I mean we have a situation where it could give us more votes too

DAVE: Yeah, RON: it's my votes down about it. DAVE: I mean you're making a deal with the devil. RON: Yeah

It's no, you're right. Okay. I thought I was gonna convince you you're not gonna DAVE: I don't give a fuck about that guy

RON: Yeah, no, he's not a strong candidate and I was against it

but I did like that because

With the libertarian party it used to be 12 percent. We only need now they changed to 15 percent

We got more libertarians because they're trying to lock us out

um, and and and I also do say I freely admit this

If the american people ever elected libertarian president

the next day

Every libertarian you go what the fuck do we just do?

You know, it's you know, we we want it. We we we want a better society. We want a better country. We want a stronger country

It's just we need to

Sell the libertarian party a little better. I guess I don't know

DAVE: I don't think we should sell the libertarian party. We have to sell the libertarian message

RON: Yeah, well to me that is DAVE: the message that RON: you're right

DAVE: The only the only reason there's a party is so that we have some cohesive channel with which to do that

I mean like I we have this podcast. There's the Tom Woods podcast. There's Peter Schiff, but like

RON: Who's got more viewers them or us

DAVE: Who RON: Peter Schiff, Tom Woods, or is it us? Who's it? DAVE: I think it's close. We're we're yeah, RON: we're right there

We're like knocking on their door. DAVE: Yeah, RON: we're coming for you guys

no, uh

Oh, what else was there? DAVE: But yeah, like we that's what we need

We need you know

Just get the keep getting the message out get it the message out to more and more people

Because there's people out there and I swear to god I run into this like every day

And I and I say I'm a libertarian. I'm running for the for congress and they're like

Well, you mean gary johnson like they don't know I got it. We took over the party from these idiots

RON: So when I tell people I'm a libertarian it hasn't happened in a while. Thank god

Um, oh, so you're liberal. Yeah, wait, what what do you think I said?

Well, the first couple letters sounded like liberal. Yeah, it finished that fucking word because it's there's nothing

There's we have no similar Democrat party. We have some Republicans, but they're a bunch of pussies

Looking at you congress

DAVE: Maybe it's the circles I run in but most people know the word libertarian

They know ron paul and and they'll say I like ron paul

But you know, he got fucked over by the republicans

And and then you guys ran gary johnson and I just tuned it out like I don't want to fucking do

And I'm like, no, no, you you got to understand in 2022

What's called the Mises caucus which are like radical anarchist

uh, anarcho-capitalists, let's say

People like me

Uh took over the libertarian party like they literally went to the convention and voted out the trash

And said we are in charge now. This is our party. We're gonna take it where it belongs

so like

once people once that

Gets around that knowledge gets around. I think you're gonna see a lot more people coming on board

RON: That would be amazing. Now we are we we've blown past that hour mark

Um, I just want to throw out like one last thing. So I am actually you're running for office

I'm gonna go knock doors and stuff. I'm gonna have a flyer made up

I'm thinking about this slogan

Trying to get politicians out of politics

Is that a good slogan or is that like DAVE: You don't like turd into punch bowl?

RON: It's turd the punch board is not that mainstream

It puts an image in and and you know, DAVE: I like get politicians out of politics

RON: Yeah, something like that. I mean because I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna fight for it

But the reality is it doesn't matter who you vote for it matters who counts the votes

DAVE: Yep

RON: So, um, we'll see but yeah, we are an hour 17. So I think we need to DAVE: let me let me real quick

I mentioned that next week. I'll be talking about cryptocurrency

RON: Okay, and I'll be talking about the next step in the proper ways to prep

So, uh, whoever's out there listening to us. Thank you. We appreciate it. I believe we have a way to communicate with us now

DAVE: Yeah, if you go on our website, uh, there's uh, there's that menu at the top left. Uh, there's a contact us page

You're only gonna talk to me because Ron didn't want to put any info out there

But uh, yeah, I'll I'll respond to your emails or your signal messages or whatever

RON: But you can get a message me through Dave. Um, but if you want to see something, let us know

We'll talk about something. Um, yeah

So thank you for watching and good night. DAVE: See you next week