The Canary in the Cage Episode 15 - De-escalation

All right, welcome to the Canary in the Cage podcast. We are here to entertain you, possibly

educate you and hopefully make you laugh. I'm Ron Morgan with my co-host Dave Pavlocek.

So I guess let's get started. So Dave, apparently I have to make a retraction.

Oh yeah? That's not surprising. I don't think it's going to go where you think it's going

to go. I mean, my job is to make some crazy shit up and try to see what actually sticks

to the wall. And as a conspiracy theorist, I only have to be right once. Because no,

then you get the conspiracy theorist, fat guy, happy dance or I'm right dance. And wait till

you see that dance. Because it's good. I don't want to see that. Everybody wants to see that. We'll

have thousands of viewers. We can even make that a TikTok dance. The conspiracy theorist,

happy fat guy dance, but I'll be actually on my feet. But I'm not right yet. I've got a few

predictions out there, but this one I apparently am wrong on. So I watch videos and I try to

surmise what happens in reality by videos and less by words. Okay. So like at the G six summit,

Biden was at. Yeah, I thought he walked away from the crowd. Apparently, the G six leaders

walked away from him. And he didn't try and sniff the Pope. The Pope trained sniffed him.

Okay. And when he barked at reporters, that just never happened. According to the Democrats

in the media now, because they're calling them cheat fakes. Oh, yeah, cheap fakes. Yeah, they're

blaming the right wing media on all Joe Biden's fuck ups. I tried to say that they're not real.

So apparently I've been wrong the whole time. Well, yeah, I don't think he ever shit his pants

or pooped at his pants trying to be PG or maybe our I don't know what the hell that different

ratings are. Apparently that's not him pooping his pants. He's just I don't know, maybe doing a

keggle or like, like stretching his anus out. I don't know. Maybe I thought we discussed this. He

was just sitting down. Well, you say he was sitting down. You were supposed to go watch the

video and I did. He squatted and pooped. But no, but that's, see, that's a cheap fake or cheap fake.

What are the hell they're trying to say? Oh, Jesus Christ, how stupid do they think we are?

We understand what's actually going on, people. You guys lie. We laugh. We all have a good time.

That's how it's supposed to go. The Democrats and the media are just a bunch of liars. Come at me,

bro. I'm ready for you. Because I said it. The media lies. The Democrats lie. Oh, speaking of

the Democrats lying. Well, maybe not. I've been trying on on X to reach out to Chuck Schumer.

Okay, I want to get invited to his barbecue. Oh, yeah, the raw meat barbecue. Well, I don't like

the guy and the guy should be in jail. He should because he's the liar and he's horrible. But

dear God, don't disrespect that meat that way. What do you mean? It looked like a perfectly

normal cheeseburger. I think we actually posted about that twice because I posted about it. Oh,

did you? And then you posted about it. Yeah, I'm not good on social media. That's not my thing.

No, but the thing that bothers me is it was a gas grill.

What are they trying to propane? Who's gas? Yeah, propane to gas. I didn't look at the grill too

closely. Well, I'm not even sure there was a flame or if there was a little one.

There might have been a little tiny one, but that ain't gonna cook meat, Chuck.

And actually the meat I like the best is Chuck. Weird how that shit happens.

Man, dude, seriously. Yeah, he posted and he immediately pulled it off. Unlike Massey. Did

you hear about Massey? This is this is this happened a while back. But Massey, he's a Kentucky boy.

And he's from the right side of Kentucky, which is the eastern side, which is what we don't,

they don't like visitors over there. No, they really don't. I've got family from the eastern

side and from the central side. They're like, yeah, we don't go to the eastern side. They don't

want us and we don't want to be over there. But he went to pick up the, so he wanted to buy a Tesla

battery to power his house because this dude truly lives on a house that's disconnect from everything.

So he picked up the battery, stopped at a gas station in Georgia to fill up, to get home. I mean,

you got to put gas in your car. And he posted a picture of the battery on the trailer. Within

minutes of it posting that, people are posted on X, yo, dude, you can't cross state lines with that.

That's how he's material. Oh, and by the way, your place expired two years ago. So what did he do?

Didn't remove the post, got his truck and drove quickly home. You don't catch me in Georgia

or Tennessee at that point, I guess. If I'm in Kentucky, I'm home and I'm not crossing state

lines. See, that's how you handle that. You don't remove your fuck up. Well, but they can still use

that as evidence to, you know, like that's what they do. Sure they can. That's how they catch

most criminals these days. Well, but according to him, the statute of limitations is now over on that

because he got that Tesla battery years ago. Okay. Yeah. So you, unless they can date the photos

somehow. But yeah, that's how they catch most criminals. They, they, they post about it on Facebook

and then the police just look at their Facebook and say, Oh, this guy admitted to a crime. Yeah,

there are a bunch of dumbasses that do that. Nobody, he's got proof when he bought the battery.

Would have done his trailer when apparently his plates weren't registered properly,

which honestly, I love it. Don't, don't worry about it, man. That's we're libertarians.

We don't like the government. We don't want them telling us what to do. Nobody, nobody register

your plates. Let's make that the 2025 motto. I know we're not there yet, but we got to make

this growing movement. Nobody register your plates. They can't arrest us all. That's true. They might

try, but they won't. So where, where are we at now? So we are in Las Vegas, Nevada,

in a hot garage. I'm sorry. We're in a soundstage studio, a podcasting studio that's perfectly

comfortable to sit in right now. And when it's out in five outside, maybe kind of sort of, I don't

really know. So you know, I found weird this week is like AOC and a bunch of her squad members

and a bunch of reporters like Rachel Maddow, Mad cow or whatever her name is.

Apparently they're coming out for Trump. What do you mean? Well, they're saying that if Trump gets

elected, they'll be arrested. Oh, okay. So I want them arrested. Yeah. Well, they'd be arrested for

well, they're they're Democrats. The media, they lie. They think that's legal though, but they

think that they're gonna arrest them because Trump's apparently a tyrant. Why didn't he arrest them the

first time? Well, you got to stop using reason. See, Dave, that's your problem. You use reason.

And reason says, well, you've been arrested last time, why would he arrest you now? But they're

trying to use scare tactics. Like, Oh, the videos are fake. Joe Biden's not one or sage like a Zumba

or they're going to arrest the media and the progressive left. I mean, I'm not for fake arrest.

I'm not for government control. But but seriously, Uncle Sam, put your boot on the neck of the

progressive progressive Democrats. I'm kind of okay with that. I'll look the other way,

even though I'm a libertarian and I don't necessarily like that. I'll take a nap that day. Do what you

got to do because I don't like them. Oh, Jesus Christ, where else are we at today? You guys need

more talk about or should I keep going? Yeah, it seemed like a slow news week for me. I mean, I didn't

really pay much attention. It's it's it's a it's a beautiful week this week.

Kansas, the state of Kansas, who knew? Have you ever driven through Kansas? Yeah, I'm pretty

sure I did. So if you're not a bug in the windshield, yeah, you okay. But no, so if you're coming from

the east, heading west, the mile markers trick you. So typically, we see a mile marker is either

counting down or counting up, right? Well, there's start counting down. And when you first end up

the state from Missouri, who knew Missouri was next to Kansas? Who knew the Kansas City Chiefs

were actually in Missouri? Yeah, I didn't know that either. Well, I didn't know I'm not good

at this, right? I'm getting off topic. So when you cross over that state line, it says like 178 miles.

Okay. And it's going down. I go, Oh, 178 I can do that. No problem. Yeah. It gets around 60 and it

changed to 375. Apparently another interesting interzand and kind of, oh yeah, they do that kind

of weird. But still, I was all happy. I remember being Colorado at 170 miles. My not gonna happen.

So but also, I think where I was going with this. So the state of Kansas this week is Sue and Pfizer.

Okay, what for? I assume the shot thing? Well, so it's a tricky. Well, I don't I don't truly know

the I heard that I heard the Attorney General of Kansas talk about it. And it looks like they're

going in the proper direction. Because you know, Pfizer does still have immunity. It all vaccine

makers have immunity. Joe Biden working out for them though. No, no, no, that's not. Thank you. I love

that. I love the fact that we are finally breaking this shit down. But so what they're doing is

the peer because they haven't really said how the Pat they're going to take. Yeah. But what they said

was you advertise this wrong. Yeah, you talked about it wrong. So instead of going after the vaccine,

not working because the vaccine doesn't work. Could be my opinion, it could be wrong, but people are

dying. They're going after what it appears to me from what I've seen, they're going after the

advertisement of the vaccine, which would not have the immunity attached. Right. Interesting. So they

might have actually found a back. So the Kansas in Kansas. What is that? Like, Kansas in Illinois in

Indiana in Kentucky in Kansas. And what I don't know what you guys call yourself, but you did a

great job. Keep up the fight. Go after Pfizer. And then we got the Louisiana. Oh, yeah, I was about

to bring that one up. Oh, go right ahead. Yeah. So they maybe it's not the same thing you're thinking

of, but I'm sure it is the only thing that's been in the news that I know in Louisiana. So yeah,

they they passed a law saying you have to have the tank commandments in every public school.

No, I actually mind is different. I don't know how Louisiana is in the news twice in one week.

Because they're putting more with that because because Chase, what's Chase? What's his last name

again? Oh, chase Oliver. I keep forgetting his name. If he would just contact me and talk to me.

I'm pretty sure I remember his name, but he's kind of basic. So

so go ahead with yours. I mean, like what else is there to say? This is fucking stupid.

What is the Supreme Court has already ruled that it's unconstitutional. Now,

we do have a different composition of the court these days, but it's going to be hard to justify

this. Okay, so if you ban all religion from public schools, well, so this is different. This is not

a school may display this. It's all schools must display this.

Well, okay. But after the Civil War, all schools must have presented actually,

I think this happened in the 1950s. All schools must show a picture of Abraham Lincoln.

It was a it was a way of keeping the South down and you could go. It did happen.

Well, they probably ruled against that too. No, no, no, this is back in the 40s and 50s.

You couldn't pull that you couldn't get this shit off of that. The guys in the suits and the

fedoras were just coming kick you in the head and you'd be done. So you wouldn't have existed

back then. No, but, but like, I guess I can only liken this to when my son was in school.

And he had, I think going through school, he had like one or no, maybe two or three Jewish teachers.

And that was in the 90s and religion was not allowed in school. You can't sing religious songs,

except unless you're singing a religious Jewish song. Because the last time I checked,

Jewish Judaism is a religion. It's not a nationality. So they're singing like

dreidel dreidel dreidel or whatever. That's a song about a dreidel religious, but it's well,

but they suck a bunch of religious songs about the Jewish religion. I'm really sure the dreidel

thing mentions like, well, okay, so that's something religious. I don't know. Everybody that works in

the public gets this wrong because they're all a bunch of fucking idiots. But like, you're allowed

to discuss religion, right? You're allowed to sing religious songs, you're allowed to pray on your own

time. You're just not allowed to make other people do it. I don't understand why this is hard.

Yeah, you can walk out the kids that want to opt out can walk out the classrooms in the hallway.

Well, no, no, no, no, the teacher can't use class time to lead a prayer. Okay, the teacher is the

government agent. Right. So but if a kid is in a homeroom, they can pray on their own time or in

lunchroom. And I know I personally don't have a huge that's not a huge issue of mine. Yeah,

I don't want all religions being discussed in school. So my board just cut them all out. But

it's not the the issue itself. It's like the precedents, right? Because like, they're never

going to just stop here, right? They're going to be start going back to creationism again. And

like all the other fucking stupid people talk about. So how do humans get here? Let's go deep.

Evolution. I mean, oh, we're monkeys. Well, don't say the word monkey. Don't be careful.

Technically, we are monkeys. Oh, is that a bad word to say? No. Okay, I'm not going to be a bad

word. I'm not going to expound on that. I got in trouble for saying monkey a few times in a joke.

That was totally respectful. And it did not disrespect black people because I don't know

what the hell their problem was. Well, all humans are also from Africa. True. And we're also all

monkeys. So I don't know what you want to take from that. But where is this? What do monkeys have

thumbs? They pose both up? Yes. So they can pick stuff up? Yes. And dial cell phones? Yes. How do

you not know what a monkey looks like? A monkey or an ape? Both. Okay, I don't really get it. This

is not what I mean. That's the difference. That's the major difference. Yeah, monkeys have tails,

apes do not have tails. That's the difference. I'm doing my Marge Simpson quote. Look it up.

Hmm. Okay. Do monkeys have thumbs? Okay, of course they do quick break here. Oh my god. No,

because I thought the opposable thumb was like the whole thing of no, this is why monkeys can't be

humans. No, monkeys are tiny. They're just they don't have enough brain mass. They throw poo too.

So do apes. So do I. I'm pretty sure even lemurs have thumbs and they're like one removed from

monkeys. This is great on air right now. We're talking we're both type and I'm trying to figure

apes and old world monkeys have fully opposable thumbs. Yeah. So what's so define opposable.

Just kidding. I know what that means. It means you can grasp things.

Like, like, like, regular mammals have thumbs, but they're attached like this. I mean, this one's

not my thing, but that's fine. I'll give you. I'll give you. We might have come from monkeys people.

In case you didn't know that might be true. Dave's Dave's never wrong because he can't say the word

wrong. I spent like most of my college arguing about evolution online. Okay, so I'm pretty well

versed in it. So so have you have you took the last week because I did post that clip on X to show

you how to say the word wrong. I don't know what you're talking about. But you're never wrong. I

don't know what you're talking about. Eventually I will get him to say it doesn't mean he has to be

wrong. I just want to get the work out of his mouth. So so but yeah, like these lunatics, it's the

whole pendulum swinging, right? They tried this back in the early 2000s. And then the left went

fucking psycho. And now the right is coming back again. And but but they're not going to just be

like, Okay, let's just stop this nonsense. They're going to do their own dumb bullshit again.

They always do. I'm not getting the creationism. I don't I don't it's not my thing. I don't care

about it. I'm here. And that's all that matters. I mean, it's important that you know, like,

do I came from? Well, no, but if we want to, you know, cure cancer or do medical research,

that doesn't involve, you know, bullshit vaccines, then you have to have a grasp on how biology works.

So you want to kill a bunch of monkeys so humans cannot have cancer?

Sure, why not? I know about monkeys. They're cute. So what? Whoever buys them? They're playful. Yeah,

but if you want to buy a monkey and have it as a pet, oh, but if I buy a monkey, you're not allowed

to have that scientific research, then that's my so if you buy a cat, can you shave it? Why not?

Walk backwards? Sure. That's weird. It probably won't go for it. But you know, guys don't really

like that kind of thing. Although a dog, you probably could convince a dog. My shave its ass

needs to walk backwards. It's an old joke. Oh, okay. What was your Louisiana thing? Oh, Jesus

Christ, I forgot about it already. So apparently Louisiana is I mean, I mean, read the word. No,

no, it's I want to say it a certain way because I don't want to be accused of, you know, making

shit up. Louisiana is starting the process to get criminal referral request for Fauci and other

public health officials. Okay. So apparently Louisiana is going after a silly, silly killer.

Yeah. I, ah, geez, that was hard to get out. Well, but now if they're if they're all a bunch of

creation is how they're going to prove that Fauci was wrong. Right? Like he don't mix two stories.

That's going to give me a headache. But I mean, that's the reality, right? Like he killed people.

How do you prove that you have to use science? You can't just say it. You science and then

like go down the road. People just ruin everything. I have facts that are not science related. And you

science people are going to like, well, it can't happen because of this. I mean, what if you take

the X on the axis and the A in the ass? Yes. Yes. It's always pissed me off as a libertarian because

like people on the right will say, I like the free market because, you know, everyone can try

their own thing and discover the best solution. And then the market just works. Okay. But I didn't

come from no goddamn monkey. Right. And then the people on the left are like, well, evolution is

this this trial and error random mutation and natural selection and eventually species that

that are better adapted survive and the other ones die out. But the free market doesn't work. So we

need communism. Like it's the same side of the fucking coin. Well, actually, that you just brought

up a very valid point here. If you could change the word creationism to COVID, you might have had

the exact same argument. What do you mean? COVID doesn't exist. COVID does exist. It exists. I had

it. Oh, you, oh, you had a cold? No, I had something much worse. Oh, do you taste metal?

What? Did you taste metal? Apparently. Oh, some people had COVID taste. My point being,

it fucked up my smell. I still smell things weird. Really? Yes. Okay. So I mean, like it had so it's

manmade. I'm not saying that I don't know that has to be. It doesn't have to be something. I mean,

I believe that it was but I don't that's not a necessary truth of virus has a virus ever

changed anybody since the smell for this long. Well, I don't know. I don't believe I don't think so.

But so make a man made like it's new. So my point is though, the government and the media

have worked together for decades, apparently even possibly hundreds and thousands of years

to get us to keep arguing so we can't agree so we constantly fight. So we don't know when we go to

vote. We're like, Oh my God, I'm voting for abortion. I vote for guns. I vote for this. I vote for

that because the TV said this. Shut the fuck up. Just fucking vote for the person that's going to

make your life the best. So the other thing, even if it was man made, right, the way they make a virus

isn't like some guy like cutting and pasting genes, right? They put the virus in a bunch of petri

dishes and make it evolve. So control x and control p. They're not doing that. Oh, they're not doing

that. So like they have a bunch of petri dishes. And and they say, Oh, I like the way that one works.

Let's let's throw the others out and have this one propagate. And they just have faster evolution.

So you are for you are thinking that it's gain a function. Yeah, that's how gain a function

research. Great. And because I mean, I go back to where the bird foods kind of they're doing a

gain a function on the bird flu right now. We're going to see that here moment. That's how we make

like tomatoes and bananas and shit. You know, yeah, I heard that bananas don't wouldn't actually exist

without by genetic altering. Well, what's what we do is we to make a banana tree, there's there's

no such thing as a banana tree. Right. So like we had banana trees in the past. And then like we

chopped a branch off. And then we glued it to another tree, like a completely different tree.

And that's fine. All I'm going to say is I will not eat plant based bananas. Oh, wait, wait.

I'm confused. I just confused myself. I think so. I'll eat plant based bananas. I will not eat bugs

or plant based meat. Okay, I had to reset myself that I got a little confused.

Oh, Lordy, what do we got next? I didn't make enough notes on that. Oh, no, I did. I just I put

a space in where it shouldn't be. So what is what's your feelings on the daily caller? It's a website?

I mean, I'll occasionally click links from there. Okay, so it's somewhat reputable.

I don't know about that. I mean, the articles I'm reading, and it seems it has,

he's got my slant to the world. So I kind of dig him. I think he's right. I think they're right.

I say him because I'm talking about there's no way I'm getting this last name right.

Let's just say Philip L. It's actually L.

It's not Phil McCracken, is it?

I don't know. It's actually Michael Bendover. Oh, okay. Or Michael Hunt. Michael Hunt.

And Bendover. No, it's L. E. N. Z. C. Y. C. I don't know. He's Polish.

Polish guy. There you go. They're so poor in Poland that they can't buy a vowel.

I did not say that. That was Dave. I think people can afford vowels.

So he's, he's come out this week and he's claiming the Chinese police

are here in America and at the southern border. Now, I'm going to stop that statement for a second.

Have you heard about the Chinese police station, station around America?

Yes. Okay. So we agree that is true.

Probably. Because you've heard about it. Yeah. Well, I don't, I believe I'm not,

I'm not setting you up for a joke. Although by the sound like I was.

So I've heard about it from sources that wouldn't admit to it unless it was true.

You know what I mean? Right. So like me. So it's no, not like you.

So generally, like if CNN tells me something that's anti left, I tend to believe that because

right CNN is leftist. Yeah. And then if like Fox tells me something that's anti right,

then I tend to believe that. Right. No, agree. I agree. Every once in a while,

they got to be right so they can say they're right or left or whatever.

Or just something that's just too obvious to ignore or to.

So he's, he's, you know, with the Chinese police stations here in the country

and he interviewed a guy who claimed to be a Chinese police officer

at the southern border who was facilitating Chinese immigrants getting into the country.

Okay. And again, I go back to you can't just walk out of a communist country.

I go back to the fact that they're sitting police officers over here to keep an eye on their

citizens to make them make sure they do what they're supposed to do when they're here.

Yeah. But there's nothing they can do. There's a, there's nothing they, okay. So I mean,

having grown up in Chicago, I'm sure you went down to Chinatown, right?

Oh, I love Chinatown. Where I go. And Chicago Chinatown is interesting

because there's a big building right on the corner of Sir Mac and Wentworth, I think it is.

Okay. And it's just like a big kind of like a VFW hall, but Chinese.

And you're like, well, there's no stores. And you're like, what's going on in there?

And that's a try that's a triad building, right? Okay. So they have their own,

so the triad is Asian, it's Chinese mafia. Yes. Okay. I just, some people who didn't know.

But this is in every ethnic community. I mean, like, so every, every ethnic community has a

police department here on our land. You're using the word police department, but like,

to spy on their citizens that are here. It's, and to correct their behavior when they're bad.

Well, you're about to try to do the same thing. But it's not, it's not like a police department.

It's just like, this is our neighborhood. And these are the people that run it.

And yes, they do organize criminal stuff. But that's how you have to work in the

kind of, I mean, like you're telling me the government doesn't do the organized crime too.

Of course they do. Of course they do. But again, the, but the CCP should not be on our land.

Well, there's no should. There's just, there is and there isn't.

Well, they, well they should not. I mean, I don't like,

But if Chinese people choose to listen to them, then they can. And if they say,

fuck you, there's nothing that the triads or whoever the fuck can really do about it.

Okay. You don't have to live in an ethnic Chinese neighborhood, right?

Like you can move anywhere you want into a gated community.

And there's nothing they can do to you. I'm just setting the story up for a future show.

Okay. Because I know what's going to happen. I'm in, I'm in the know. We'll see.

The stars have aligned. I don't think so. The moon is in the, what is it? What is the moon in?

The house of mercury ascending or whatever. It's all lined up. I've seen it all. I know

where this is going, but I can't tell you yet. I don't think so. Oh no, it's bad days are coming.

Well, yes, but I don't think for the reason that you think they are. There's an awful lot

of illegals here doing something. It doesn't matter. Actually, I wasn't even going to bring this up.

But did you ever happen to Los Angeles today? No, they opened up a $600 million high rise building

with like fitness centers and like all kinds of amenities. And it's for the homeless. Okay. Cool.

How do I'm going to, I'm going to be homeless. Yeah. I get LA apartment. I get LA apartment.

Drive down there. Oh, Jesus. So yeah, so I, and with the day they called her, I, the Philip

Lozinski guy, that's kind of who I'm kind of watching right now because he's got some stories

that he kind of thinks like I do, or I think like he does, I probably smarter than me.

But that's kind of where I'm going with that. Oh, shit. We're seven days and counting to the debate.

Nice. So are we going to, or should we do a live show or? I want to, but I don't know where to go

because Travis, I've got back to me. Oh, okay. I mean, unless we did it here, I mean, we can do a,

can we do a live show? I don't see why not. So are you willing to commit to the whole debate?

How long is it supposed to be? And what time from what to what time? I think it's a two or three

hour debate. So that could be a, I mean, I can get a TV behind us. Well, it's got to be, I believe

a three hour debate because they, they, they, Biden asked for a bathroom breaks. I'm not even gonna,

I'm not touching that joke. I mean, seriously, dude. Oh yeah. I mean, the rules in this debate

are a hundred percent Joe Biden and like zero Trump. Well, I saw that Trump gets the last word.

Well, his microphone be on or off. Oh, well, that's at least that's something.

So it was like they did a coin flip and Biden won the coin flip and they could either choose which

side of the stage to be on or get the last word and Biden chose to be on whatever side of the

stage you wanted. Well, that's the double. You always want the last one. I don't know what is

the reasoning was. Well, this just proves he's an idiot and his campaign. I'm pretty sure he

didn't choose it. It was his campaign people. Well, yeah, because he can't make a decision,

except do I poop my pants now or holy shit now? Sorry.

Yeah. So the, the, the moderate, see the moderate moderators are Jake Tapper and Diana Bash.

Did I write those names down? Yeah. Diana Bash. So Jake Tapper is anti Trump. Right. And he's

gone on TV saying how much he's anti Trump. And then Dana Bash, do you know anything about her?

No. So it is her one of one of her ex husbands. Apparently she is more than one fine woman to

live with. Her first ex husband is one of the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden laptop being Russian

propaganda. So to me, I say run with it because Trump now has a way in to go to bring up the

laptop without bring up the court case. So he could be like, well, Diane, I know your husband,

well, your ex husbands thought this was fake. My cut. What's that? They're gonna cut his mic.

So they did that. That's the thing they had. They're gonna cut his mic. I mean, seriously,

they're gonna cut his mic every time because he he can have no props, which I'm like, really,

always done that. Well, yeah, but I mean, this time, I mean, can you imagine, I think Dave Bongino

said this, it was have him blow up a check from the CCP Hunter Biden. Yeah, and just hold that up.

Okay, so the debate is going to be on Thursday at 5pm Pacific. Oh, okay.

I mean, I could be here for that. I can probably get or maybe maybe 6pm because like that's this

is the pre show schedule. So what did it say? What it ends?

No, I don't think so. Well, you know what, you guys might see me. You might be seen us live here

next week. Yeah, we'll see. We don't know where that's going to go. And I mean, we're gonna, you

know, we're much better live. I mean, here, you know, we're kind of like awkward and

and dick jokes and poop jokes. But live, we are like tight. It's if that's gonna be true.

Yeah. Okay, it's gonna start at 6pm Pacific Thursday, June 27. And okay, 90 minutes long

with two commercial breaks. This is our normal schedule. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We can go now. Well,

we don't do commercial breaks though. Well, no, because no one pays us to advertise it. Yeah.

But so we can either do it live or we can just upload it the next day as we normally do.

I almost want to do it. Well, you don't drink so it won't be kind of fun because I because my

intention was to have chocolate shots on the table. And every time Biden poops his pants,

we do a chocolate shot. And my wife was going to drive me because I think there's going to be a

lot of pooping in the pants. I don't think I mean, no, they're gonna cork up that thing.

That would be the commercial break. Like, okay, guys, we're cutting like he has that choice.

Well, no, but the dude's walking on the tarmac. He's got to stop and spread his legs. It's not

gonna be live though. It's gonna be on a slight delay. Five minutes delay. Yeah. And then they're

going to be able to do any editing they need. Oh, no, no, no, they always do that. No, no,

Trump's gonna say fuck or shit or whatever. The delay I don't mind. But but set the commercial

breaks at 45 minutes in or 20 minutes in commercial break 20 minutes later. Don't cut commercial

he poops his pants. That's wrong. We as Americans, we deserve to see him poop his pants again.

And then they made up some bullshit to get RFK not there. Yeah. Like they said, okay, you have to

qualify in five polls and he's like, okay, here's five polls. No, not those. You can't use those.

And actually like neither Trump nor Biden also qualify by their own. Because they're not on the

ballot yet. That's a problem. There you have to be on the ballot. Yeah. Well, neither one are on the

ballot. Right. But I'm kind of glad Kennedy's out on this one. I think he needs to be on the rest.

But this one needs to be a shit show. Trump needs to Trump needs to realize the less words you say,

the more points you're going to win by let Biden, right, mumble, stumble, right, poop his pants,

talk about his uncle being eaten by cannibals. Let all that happen. The more you let him talk,

the more I get to talk about on the next Thursday. So Trump man, do a brother a favor.

Just hook me up. Let that guy just mumble and stumble and potentially bark at people,

which apparently he's done twice now. You see him? He's not not not not not not not not.

But then he she paid but then he gagged. I know but but then he giggles. He giggles after that.

It's weird. So whatever. I mean, Trump just let this dude embarrass. I know you're smart.

You got your great debater, but let just kick back and let this dude kill himself.

He is going to die on stage and they're going to replace him. So when I say that, I do have to

make an ult another alteration to something that I said that I said Biden will be out in 30 days,

which I still believe with this exception and I pissed at myself that I missed this.

If and I did say this last week is that Hillary Clinton could be on the list to be replaced.

I mean, she's got a facelift. She's been seen with hot sauce in her purse.

Do you know that joke? Yeah. Okay. So you don't know she was at a black restaurant

and she ordered food. She goes, Oh, don't worry. I brought my own hot sauce out of my purse.

I'd love somebody to catch her live and go show me the hot sauce in your purse and she'd be like,

what? Yeah, she's whatever. So getting back to Biden being removed, they will Uncle, Uncle Bernie

or Bernie. No, what is that? The, the, they had the dead guy and they walked him around.

They will, they will three months with Bernie, with Bernie Joe Biden. If Hillary Clinton is the

one is the nominee. And I did, I did, I did miss this. I truly truly am mad at myself because

if Biden was to step down or be removed or die, not wishing death on anybody,

then Camilla, Camilla, I can't say her name. Camela. Camela. Camela. I have a speech in

powder, but I'm not getting into it. Whatever her name is. I'm not insulting you. I just can't

say your name. She will become with an asterisk, the first female United States president. Okay.

And Clinton and Hillary Clinton can't allow that. So they will duct tape and bungee cord Joe Biden's

corpse to anybody and everybody who's willing to walk next to him to get him through January.

Oh hell, it's gonna be on the way to January. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck with that. But there's no way

Hillary Clinton is going to let the vice president become the first female president. So that's

where it's a little caveat that I've got. And it was there, but there is a, there's a big debate

going on and Bonginos brought this up. If Biden was to step down or be removed, which

it's going to happen because I mean, even at this Hollywood event, well, I'll give that in a second.

If he is to step down, she's not going to want, she's going to be the first female president.

So, but so they kind of like, they kind of weakened the burning, weekend that burned him

over the weekend at the George Clooney fundraiser for him in Hollywood.

I don't pay attention to that yet. Okay. So, so there was like a bunch of activity and a big show

that George Clooney was hosting and I didn't watch it. I just kind of call the highlights.

Biden froze on stage. And it's really funny because if you watch the footage of what went out on TV,

they panned way back. And what they missed when they panned way back, because there was a few

cameras still panned way in, is Obama grabbed Biden by the wrist and kind of tugged him and then

put his hand behind his back. And that's where the weekend of Bernie's thing came up at. Just kind

of like walk that corpse right out of the room. So a damn bunch of those thing goes, that that's a

power move. I might go watch that when I get home. Yeah, you should. It's a pretty cool power.

No, no, I mean, the weekend of Bernie's. I haven't seen that long time.

Much more entertaining what happened. But it was just going to show you that who's truly

running this country, whether it's Obama or he's part of it. Again, I say the debates to get Joe

Biden off the ballot because he ain't good. He ain't smart. But yeah, but he did freeze on stage.

So, but this brings up an interesting point. George Clooney was there. There was, I guess

I don't know the other actors and actresses that were there except for Jack Black. You remember

Jack Black? Yeah. He was in a movie like 20 years ago. He used to be funny. Yeah, yeah, he used to

be funny. But he was wearing this like American flag overall. But I believe it was either Stalin

or somebody else wore a very similar pair of overalls with their flag. No, I mean, I guess it

was a meme could have been Photoshopped, but it entertained me and I laughed so I don't care.

But so check this out. So we all know about Epstein's Island, right? Well, I don't know anything

about it. Well, have you been there? Are you in the logs? I don't answer questions like that. Is the

FBI coming to your house like that? So, so a judge back in January said she won all the names we

released. I remember that they gave us a sacrificial list of like what 20 people. Yeah. And we always

had the flight lines. Right. That was leaked a long time ago. But it kind of died off. Yeah.

So what if like the camera footage and all this other stuff that the FBI does have

and they're using the blackmail people? What if you look at every actor or actress that comes out

for Joe Biden now being on that FCI visitor? Because one, who would willingly come out to

support poopy pants? I'm pretty sure all these Hollywood idiots do that. Like I mean, but on the

other hand, the ones who don't are also don't tend to be pedophiles. So like you don't. So I say,

read the room and actors and actresses are trained to read the room. We all know that we don't.

Well, I guess there's more comics. Yeah, that's like, but Jack Black is a comic though. Okay,

that's true. Sort of kind of. No, no, he did. He did stand up. So he knows how to read a room.

He knows that we don't like Joe Biden as a whole. I mean, like as a country, if you were like,

have a megaphone that I don't know, he knows that country because I don't think he gives a five.

So he's just they walk Hollywood and just can't see past the Hollywood mountains.

Those people, they have their own little word. Now, in the poker world, I get a little glimpse of

these people because every once in a while, some of them will come and play poker. And like, you

can ask them questions and they'll chit chat and they don't mind talking about it. But like,

they are fucking in their own world. I mean, like they have no clue how the average person lives.

You know, what kind of struggles you might have like, they don't even understand the concept of

going to the grocery store, because they don't go to the grocery store. And I don't blame them.

Because if they did, they would be swarmed. They would know that that is bullshit because I met

Sam Elliott at a grocery store. Okay, Sam Elliott. Oh, who knows who Sam? I'm a comic. Nobody knows

who Sam Elliott. You did. Yeah, but I'm a fucking movie buff. That's that's actually so okay. Let's

see how good of a movie buff you are. I met him in Ralph's Ralph's. Yeah.

What is that? The Big Lebowski. Yeah, but what he didn't go the route, they got the

the Folgers coffee can from a Ralph to Mary Donnie and his ashes. Okay, fine. It was a deep dive in

the Big Lebowski. And in reality, I really didn't like, talk to him, yeah, to interrupt him. I just

kind of do what I've always done. What was he doing like fucking like checking the egg or

pancake batter, which is weird. Like he was all like bent over, like, like really

looking for a pancake batter. Where's the suitcase? I mean, some pancakes. No, I just I just walked by

and this is kind of what I do. Because like even in Chicago, I come across like movie stars,

you know, because I live down the Gold Coast and whatever. But I would just go, Hey, I'm a big fan.

And I wouldn't even break pace. I just keep walking. I don't I don't want to disturb their

beat. But I also want to acknowledge that I like them. And yeah, I'm pretty sure Sam Elliott can

grocery style like but Tom Cruise, but wait, he's black. So he stands up and is like, Well, thank

you. Like no problem. And I can't walk. So I didn't really meet him. Yeah, but it was Sam Elliott.

We were eye to eye face to face. But Jack Black, I mean, like everybody would recognize Jack Black.

I don't think I don't think I would. Well, not now because of his good. Yeah, but like a normal

looking Jack Black, people would recognize if he was running around his underwear, hands down,

I would recognize that because apparently he can only be funny in his underwear.

Or orange counting. Sorry. I guess I should qualify that orange county is one of my favorite

movies. It wasn't Jack Black is probably my my one of his greatest movies. But dude, seriously,

Biden. I mean, hey, if you want to come on the podcast and defend yourself, I'll give you 500

dollars Jack Black. Is he poor? Is he poor yet? Why would he be poor? I mean, has he done a movie

the last 20 years? He doesn't need to. Oh, so he's like orange counting money and good. I guess.

What are the movies he better than that made money? He was in a I mean, I don't think he really

starred in anything that I can think of. He's good comedy. He's in a ton of comedy movies where

I'm sure he got a good payday. I mean, he's not a movie. He's no Zach Gaffelaclis, whatever that

guy's name is. Which they're because they're very similar body styles, comedy, but but Zach's

funny thing. You are Jack. Sorry. Don't go away, Jack. No. What's the song? Go away, Jack. No,

I don't know the song. Get the fuck out of here, Jack. We're tired of you now. You just you just

went woke and you went broke. No, I mean, I don't get this man. Why? I mean, no, but don't come up

for Trump either. Don't come out in a bubble. Like they live in a bubble and the only people they

ever talked to or interact with say this. So naturally that's what they believe.

But through the flip side, do you remember when Clint Eastwood interviewed an empty chair? Yeah.

I mean, why? I don't know. I thought there was weird care about you guys. We want you to entertain

us. Do you know dance? Tell you little jokes. Say your lines or your the writers write them for you

because that's all you're doing is saying the lines or the light they were written for you.

Entertain us and go home. We don't care about your politics. Well, but if they're now if you're in the

grocery store as a famous celebrity for whatever reason and people swarm you and like everyone's

happy to see you, why would you not assume that they care about your political opinions?

You're important. They're not because of all the people that have came like, like,

do you like Bruce Springsteen? I like his music. Some of it. Did you like him? Like when he first

came out? I wasn't even born yet. He's in the 90s, dude. No, he's from like the late 70s or mid 70s.

What are you talking about? Well, I've never been a big fan of Jesus. No, I mean,

Asbury Park. Come on. Okay, so apparently you like him. No, I just I don't I don't like it when I

don't want another political views. I just I just don't. I won't put it. Okay, so that'd be fair.

Like a lot of singers sing about their political views. Right. So like that's their art, whereas

an actor is doing what somebody else wrote for them. So if it's in their song, which is their art,

then I'll be I'm a lot more a lot more accepted of that because that's their art. Well, that's what

Bruce Springsteen is all about. Yeah, but he came out and he's he's made speeches and he's always

been this way. Well, I don't want to say what same with John Mellencamp or or like John Mellencamp.

John Cougar. John Cougar. First he was Johnny Cougar. Yeah, he was John Cougar.

And it was John Cougar. And then John Cougar Mellencamp. And then something else. And has he

had a song out recently? I don't know. I have no idea. I grew up I lived in the in Indiana for a

while. And he was like really pop because he's from India. He was a Hoosier to we still don't know

what Hoosier is, but except Hoosier. I said that I don't know the I'm trying to repeat the joke.

But that's callback. So we'll go with that. But

so I mean, and he had the ripped jeans and the bandana hanging on the back pocket,

which is actually funny because in the gay world in the 90s, that was a symbol. You know that?

I don't know. So the band the color was 10. But you're gay, right? No. Oh, I'm sorry. You're

thinking of the guy you're voting for president. Chase Oliver, come out and play chase. Come on.

No, apparently. And I'm not saying JC Mellencamp or John Cougar or whatever. I'm not saying he's gay.

I'm just saying he had bandana's hand was back pocket. That means something to gay community.

Nothing wrong with being gay. I think gay people should be libertarians. Just not chase Oliver.

Because you like you want to transition kids, you little but basic bitch.

Um, no, I mean, seriously, I mean, no, it still pisses me off. What can I do?

How do I win people over to the libertarian party when they Google? Well, libertarian party. I've

actually never heard of that. Well, the fucking you never heard of that dumbass. But then they're

going to go, well, I don't watch TV or whatever. Yeah. And they're going to Google libertarian party

2024. And this kid transitioning guy is going to pop out. And I'm going to go, yeah, that's our

presidential candidate vote for me. I don't want kids to transition, but he does. How do I? How do

I do that? I mean, it's so okay. So I mean, you're running for all you have to give it. I don't

give a I'm not I'm just paper candidate. But you have to understand that like there's a whole big

web of shit in this. And like both of you guys are on the wrong end of it. So like

what Chase says is that he wants the government to be out of your medical decisions, right?

Okay, and I assume you would agree with that statement. Yes. Okay. So now he says,

if a doctor recommends a treatment for a child, that's not the government's business to stop it.

Is it based on diagnosis though?

Presumably, I mean, okay. So but now here's the thing. A lot of libertarians are getting this

wrong. And not all libertarians are anarchists. So I'm not you right. So if you're an anarchist like

me, obviously that position is correct, right? The government has no place in anything. So therefore,

if a doctor prescribes a treatment that most of us agree is abuse, right, you don't have a right to

interfere. But the child when they grow up has a right to sue, which actually there are quite a

few losses sort of pop up now. But I don't want to get that. Yeah, the media is hiding those.

So now if you're if you're a non anarchist, if you're a minarchist or whatever you want to call

yourself, then you would say, Well, the government has a limited role. And that role is to protect

our rights. And children have rights. And we think that doctors giving certain treatments

violates those rights. Okay. So now, again, I'm an anarchist, so I'm not going to argue the

minarchist position. But here's the here's the problem. All these doctors that have this goofy ass

belief, and where they're like, that all comes from the government to write because government

funds medical research, basically all of it. And government decides who gets grants and who

doesn't. Okay. So if a researcher says, I'm going to study trans kids. And my hypothesis is that we

should give them hormone treatments. Okay, he gets a government grant. Whereas if somebody says,

I'm going to study trans kids. And I think it's just a phase and we should just give them therapy

and love and whatever. He doesn't get a grant. Right. So now chase is missing this whole thing.

Right. He's saying, Oh, the doctors say that that we should give the kids hormones.

Therefore, the government shouldn't step in. But it's a government that paid for that research.

Right. So we don't know what actual scientific research would look like in this field

until we get the government out of all of it. So that is probably the most well thought out,

logical argument you've ever presented to me. No, it's not. Do you think I'm going to accept it?

Well, what's wrong with saying no. So then it's okay for kids to smoke.

Why can't a 12 year old drive? I don't give a fuck. Well, no, you know, if it's your 12 year old,

that's your problem. No, but it's it's there. Unfortunately, well, probably fortunately,

we have picking we have chosen the age of 16 18 and 21 to we don't give a fuck.

Well, no, we have we have the Royal we haven't said you or I didn't sit around in a room and go,

kids can drive at 16. Yeah, but I don't care. But but the reality is I'd rather have kids driving

on the street than the fucking retard. I got to deal with it Vegas every day. The California's

Jesus Christ. Like kids play video games. This is how I learned to drive. I was driving at 12.

But by Grand Theft Auto. So children's brains are not developed to 26, which I think that's a

weird age. That doesn't mean anything. But so are you for transitioning of kids that I like I said,

I you're the ability to do it. Yes. So like if if a pretend we're in a free anarchy market,

a free market anarchy, and a doctor says, you know, there's all these kids that are saying that

they think they're the other gender. Let's try this experimental treatment. But what about the

doctor's oath to do no wrong? Well, someone has to do experiments, right? I mean, like,

how did you know that ripping someone's heart out and replacing it with a plastic heart worked

unless you try a plastic like a, it'd be a pigs heart. Well, they do that too. That's the cars.

Now. Yeah, they've been doing that for a long time. I don't pay attention to that stuff. Yeah, but

or even just ripping someone open, right? Like, I'm going to cut you open and play around with your

organs. But that's okay. Well, that's the government allowing that to happen. And that's

that. No, they doctors. Those experiments happened before government got involved with medicine.

Yes, they did. So they it happened before the funding of grants. Yes. Yeah, that's a very recent

thing. That's like 1950s and forward. What was the first heart transplant done? Well, the heart

transplant itself was in like the 80s, I want to say. Okay, but the idea of surgery and organ

replacement is before that. So would you forgo a heart transplant because it apparently was government

funded, at least are the research portion of it? Because the government said, well, no, you

saw, okay, you said the government funding started in the 50s. The first heart transfer was in the

80s. That's 30 years. So there had to be government funding. But the science behind heart transplants

is older than the 50s. They just didn't perfect the technology for it yet. So they just did it on

their own free will and no no no money in their pocket. I'm sure someone got paid. I'm sure someone

got paid, but they've also proven it, right? It's not like everyone that goes for a heart transplant

comes out dead, right? It actually works. Right. No, I agree. I mean, medical we don't we don't. So

that's that's that's a problem with this trans stuff is that how do you measure that it works?

Right? Because what does work even mean for that? Right? There is no true definition of what worked

it's not like they had a bad heart. And now their heart work. Well, they had a penis they didn't

like you're right. I mean, I don't know. I was gonna make a joke about this, but I don't know.

Um, I mean, like if you're a responsible parents, you should know better. But again, like we all

go through not all of us, but most people go through government education, and they get drilled

in the government knows best, and the government scientists are have your best interests. So like

how do you blame parents that say, Well, the doctor says so maybe because they love their kid,

right? It's not like they're stupid. Or okay, no, they are stupid. It's not like they're

well, they love the okay, that's fine. Yeah, so like, I don't want to judge they're doing what they

think is the best thing. And and again, go back to our free market anarchy, right? A doctor says,

I have this idea for a new treatment. I don't know if it's going to work. But I want to get

100 people to do a trial experiment. Now 100 people, they all sign up and you know, they sign

waivers and whatever bullshit you gotta do. And then write the doctor does it. I don't have a

problem with that. But it's but he's he is doing harm. He is. Well, you can't do experiments

without potential harm. What is the age of consent in your mind? I don't have any kids. So I don't

give a fuck. No, no, but in the world, it doesn't you're not listening. I don't have any kids,

driving. Therefore, I don't give a fuck. Do you want to put five year olds on the road?

That's not my choice. That's your choice. You have kids. I don't. It's not about kids. Yes,

it is. It's about you said age of consent. Right. What age could could children be that's not my

problem. It's not my road. I don't own the road in an anarchy society. Someone will own the road.

And they'll say you have to be 16 to drive on this road. Right. The amusement park. You have to be

this tall ride the ride. Well, that's that's age discrimination, though. So they're allowed to

do it. Why? Because they they make the ride. They say what's safe. Okay. I don't know. I

I agree with you should not discriminate against kids because of their age.

What about this? Basic decisions. But what's your opinion on circumcision?

I got them. No, no, no, no, no, you don't you have no clue where I'm going with this. And I'm not

even 100% sure I want to bring this up. I mean, I would say there's a longer story involved in this.

So I at that point, it's the parents right. Why? Because the child can't even speak at the time.

That's harm. They're chopping off bits and pieces. Yeah. Well, why should they have that right?

If they have that right, then they have the right to do hormone treatment.

To what age, though? I mean, it's not their kid anymore.

Right. This is why I was keeping the back. So here's the thing, like, a lot of the

menarchist types will say I want the government to block this. And then chase Oliver will say,

I want the government to let parents trans their kids. But I'm saying I want the government to get

out of all medical research whatsoever. And then we can figure out what the real science is.

So if he would go public more with a comment like that, but he won't, he's not that smart.

And that's my problem. I mean, you have there's there's not gonna like me to run. There's

logically what you're saying, even though I don't do not believe we should be transitioning kids.

But you want to talk about the government interference and that's something we're against.

We're against the government interfering and stuff. Oh, Jesus Christ, you put on X now.

I just moron is oh so we're not we're not going to be doing taking cheap shots

to each other. No, no, no, no, no, I'm just arguing with some fucking idiot. Oh, they keep going.

What's his name? Let's not get into it. We're not going to show his picture in a mocky.

No, I don't think we're going for it. Did they ever find out? No. Well, nobody ever

claimed their Monero on that one either. You guys are fucking just throwing away free money here

and Monero just keeps going up. You could be a dollar air in Monero right now. And you don't

even know. Speaking of arguing on Twitter. Are we ready to go to our segments? Yeah, the only thing

I want to the last thing I had on here was I think Joe Biden is starting to start his amnesty

program now. He's kind of like putting the head in first, you're going to slide the shaft in later.

He's kind of like like getting us ready to prepare us for for mass amnesty and voter rights for

illegals. So I'll leave it at that. So do what you got to do. Yeah. So last week we talked about

that police shooting. I didn't hear any anything new on it. I did though. Oh, yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ,

the guy on Facebook. He's a famous libertarian. He's Oliver Chase. Not Chase Oliver. There's

another guy. He's a famous libertarian. Whatever. He is a famous libertarian. And

oh, shit. I don't I just he says it was justified shooting. A lot of people are are agreeing with him

because of there was a gun. Apparently there was a gun in his in his waistband. I understand.

We only talked about that. The gun was on the floor. Yeah, after the guard was shot at but nobody

can still verify that he shot at the guard. But they said they're saying it sounds like a justified

shooting. So I couldn't make the video out myself. So I really can't have the whole problem is that

the cops escalated the whole situation. You know, okay, the security guard tackled him because he

had hands up and went down to the ground and they slamming the ground and tazored him. That is

what the cops crossed the line. So now do you remember during the Kyle Rittenhouse thing where

they in the trial, they tried to claim that Kyle started the fight and therefore he's not

entitled to self defense. True. Yes. Therefore it's not a justified shooting, right? No, that's a

real argument. Now they were wrong about the Rittenhouse, but that's a real argument. So if the

cops started this whole thing, then it's not a justified shoot because they started it and he

defended himself, right? They had no justified reason to attack him. Right, because he had

essentially given up. He had submitted to their demands because he knew that he did not want to

be shot. Right. So he immediately would hands up and to the ground. Right. And they pushed it,

they did, he wasn't quick enough, even though he was following their commands and they tazored him.

So at that point, did he have the, is it justified for him to run? I think it is.

Because and then when the security guard tackles him, then it's justified to shoot him, right?

Like you're trying to escape and the guy's tackling you. This guy has no justification.

He put his hands on you whatsoever. Not just by his shooting, but in defeating yourself from him.

Well, yeah. Well, what's Georgia law with that though? It's Georgia. You can, I mean, like

some town in Georgia, in some towns in Georgia, you must own a gun. Oh, shit. McCarron, Kenesaw.

Yeah. My uncle lives there. Do you know why they passed that law? I don't remember.

Because Morton Grove, Illinois passed a law that you could not own a handgun or maybe Northbrook

or Morton Grove. One of the towns that some of the Chicago passed a law saying that if you live

in this town, you cannot own a gun and they did that law to counteract that law, which actually

that was kind of cool. So anyway, I also got into an argument with another goofball on Twitter.

And this guy, I don't know how we even got to this point, but this guy was saying like 10 years ago,

he was walking home with his wife and daughter and some crazy homeless guy who was drunk

started harassing them verbally. Okay. And and then this guy punched the drunk guy in the face.

Fair enough. And I jokingly tweeted at the police department from whatever city he said it was in

and said, Hey, what's the statute of limitations on this? I think I saw and then he replied.

I was in the police department replied no way. And they're like, you're gonna have to look that up

on your own. And I'm like, I didn't think they would even fucking reply. So you're reaching out to

a government government agency joke, but I didn't think they would reply. What the fuck would I

think that but then he got all mad saying, You're a narc. I won't. So he violently attacked somebody.

Right. So someone's saying word. No, he defended himself. No, the guy was saying words.

Words can be a threat. No, they know if you feel that you're in danger, no, you have a right to

the wrong wrong wrong. That's safe to say. Words are words. No, we're okay. So I'm going to kill you.

Is it's okay to say yes. What if I'm advancing towards you with no weapon, but I'm much larger

I still get to punch you. Really? Okay, we're talking about moral, not legal.

Well, legally, well, morally, why could okay, that's an attack mean.

I disagree. What do you mean? You haven't done anything. I mean, words don't hurt and six and

so don't necessarily break bones. But if you're presenting yourself as a threat, and you're saying

words that back up your body language in a threatening manner, you got to write your

no, because you're you're throwing a punch, right? You have the right to extract yourself from the

situation. You don't have a right to throw a punch. Well, to find extract yourself from a situation

get into defensive stance, move away. So so you're with your your wife and your child was one kid

or two kids. I don't know. I don't know. So he was going to have to wrangle up his wife and kid

and get them away safely. Well, the guy was pursuing pursuing them. They can just keep walking

while he can stay there and block the guy. Well, no, because you you can't leave them alone. Because

what if the guy gets past you or he's got friends away? No, you need to get your wife and you know

you can't punch people. Oh, yeah, you can. Do you think punching him is make going to make him

more likely or less likely to actually go forward with an attack on you? It depends on how and

what you know it doesn't depend. It doesn't depend. Well, he's going to go and shiv out and stab you

and stab your wife and stab your kid. The right person at the right location person's

not the person put him asleep. He's asleep. Very unlikely.

To you scramble his egg. And he's he's now is better than pepper spray. You're he's now delusional.

And if he keeps the same thing is have pepper spray on you. Like just put pepper spray.

So so it would be okay to back off back off asshole. You tapest stuff again. So oh, oh, so

he can advance towards you. And you could pepper spray without touching you. And that's okay.

But I've warned you to back off. So if he warned him, I'm going to punch you. And he's still in

this sport. I mean, what's the difference? I mean, now we're getting into like, okay, I did this and

then this right because the original scenario is I just punched him. If he was advancing towards

them, though, I mean, that makes logical sense. That's part of the story. But the story is the

guy was saying words. And the other guy punched him. Like you're inventing new things. No, I'm not.

Yes, you are. And and there's nothing to do with your your you're inventing things that were not in

the story. You don't get to do that. You don't know the full story. I don't need to. I know what

it was. So she's based on facts. You're bringing into this. I was I'm using the story that was told

to me. Okay, so the guy's he's a guy. He's not a good storyteller. He's like, guy came up my

wife and shouldn't I show my child and I don't mean you get to invent things. You know, but

you don't mean you get to ignore things. I didn't ignore anything. I said, you don't get to punch

people who are saying words. So you're being retarded right now. Here we go. Here we go. I don't

have a good argument. Shut the fuck up. Oh, this is my segment. I didn't know you're reeling it.

I didn't know you in your segment. Yes, you did. That's what I said. No, I thought you were bringing

up a different story. Go ahead. Okay, I didn't know you're literally you're being retarded.

No, like you're defending nothing else to say. So you're defending escalating a situation

that's guaranteed to make it worse for you and everyone involved. Okay, arm is only so long.

The person's with arms length. You've read to punch him, but go ahead. You don't go ahead. Okay,

the whole point is you can do this. You can handle these situations in a libertarian manner

that don't require you to punch somebody and also give yourself the potential to go to jail,

lose your job. How the fuck is your daughter going to grow up now when you're in jail and you've

lost your job? Right? You're not thinking. Think more than five seconds into the future. Punch

you somebody that's like you're arrested. You want to bet on that? Yeah. Go do it. Where at?

Go downtown or go to the strip. Can I choose anywhere in America that I want to?

No, right. Go here. So anywhere in Nevada. No, go where it's close. I'm asking this question.

I actually have a story. I got into a fight in Trump. You're saying I got into a fight. What

does that mean? Does that mean a guy was saying word? Did you punch him? We started throwing

fists and we started who's we me and the other guy and myself who threw the first punch. He did.

Okay, then story over. You lose. This is irrelevant. Well, there was sitting

again. You're doing the rest. But you asked me a question. Go ahead.

I'll see you. I'll see you look pretty. You can do you can handle these situations in a libertarian

manner that don't put you your family at risk. Okay, I don't understand why is this? No, I'm

curious to hear your libertarian manner. Okay, so it's called simple deescalation. Okay, right. So

why are you escalating situations? Right? The guy is being aggressive. The guy's being an asshole.

Why are you taking it to the next level instead of trying to bring it down a level?

Right? Diffuse the situation. Okay, I'll let you finish. So, okay, so I mean, like these

situations happen, right? Because people say stupid shit on Twitter. And then I tag the police

and they actually respond. But and also so like this can also be a police officer, right? So

if you're a listener and you're a police officer, this applies to you as well, right? Stop trying

to escalate situations. Right? Don't be Billy badass who wants to fucking try his new gun out.

Right? You're not helping. So the first step in all these situations is assess the threats. Okay,

okay. So you're a big guy. So most people are probably going to be easy for you to to take over

in a fight. I mean, it's not necessary. I mean, I'm in my 50s. So you want to take it. Yeah, I don't

want to fight. Right? You want to take into account things like age, health status, like how overweight

is a person, as well as yourself, right? Know your own abilities, your limits. And I know we want

it. We talked about doing like a self defense. Yeah, which would be cool. But like, that's

after, you know, we've went through these de-escalation tactics. Okay, it didn't work,

because they're not going to work all the time. True. So one thing I like to look at is, does the

person have a cauliflower ear? Do not ever punch any money. Right? Yeah, throw your wife to the

ground and sacrifice her. Get you and your kid out of there. If he's got a cauliflower ear,

that dude's been punched before. But but also look at things like, are they wearing their pants

low around their weight? Right? Right? People do that. And I don't, I don't get it. But

that person probably can't take you in a fight. Unless they were, they pull the pants up. Right.

Or look at their shoes, other shoes untied. Right? Like, just simple things like,

you know, what, if I do end up having to fight, what are my odds of winning here? Right? Because

if you have a good chance of winning, maybe don't go for the de-escalation. Maybe let them throw the

first punch, you know, like, never know. But also take into account like their anger level, like,

how mad are they really? Right? So if a guy is drunk, and he's just issuing drunk guy threats,

right? It's not like anger. He's just being a stupid drunk. Right? So like,

there's no reason to escalate that situation. Because it doesn't have to turn into a fight.

Yeah. But some are going to argue that a punch is a de-escalation.

It's just not. It's not. You're going from verbal to physical. That's an escalation.

But once the guy gets, you know, punched in the nose, well, actually, oh, Jesus Christ,

there's a great quote out here. It's actually a funny story too. It was a New York giants football

player, really big. Are you a football fan at all? No. Ah, he was a, you know, literally like one

of the best linebackers, linemen, I guess, for the New York giants. And this is kind of when

politically correctness went a skew. And he was doing an interview, and he's like, he was known for

slapping the guy's helmet. And what he would do, he would cup his hand and catch the earhole.

Yeah. So it would scramble, it would kind of scramble their egg. And the reporter asked him

about that. And he goes, well, when are you going to punch a man or a woman? You got it, you know,

it's going to scramble their egg and it's going to make them, it's going to delay them a second or

two. So it gives you the advantage. But obviously the joke was a man or a woman, because you can't

leave women out, except when you're talking about punching. But oh, Lawrence, maybe Lawrence Taylor.

Might have been. But so I think we talked about a couple weeks ago, is cameras,

you know, know where cameras are in your in your vicinity. Yeah. So this is one of those

times where you want to be on the camera. Yes. And if you can place yourself in a an angle,

where it's going to get your face or their face or both faces ideally. Right now, you can prove if

it does get physical, I didn't start it. Right. I started it. I defended myself. It's on camera.

Go talk to the camera owners like I told my wife in my altercation, start filming this please.

Yeah, or if you have someone around you, say start filming. And so let's get to like what actions

you actually want to want to take. Right. So what you can do is like take a few steps back. Right.

I agree that. Okay. Yeah. Right. They're coming at you step backwards. Right. And keep, keep

facing them. Right. Never, never face anywhere else. Right. Because they are still a threat.

And you want to keep your eyes on the threats. So if you if they don't seem violence,

what you want to do is you want to keep your hands at your side. Right. Sure. Okay. Not in your

pocket. Just at rest at your side, like a normal stance. What you said, I always when I get an

altercation, I always get my hands in my pocket. And know the reason do not do this. The reason is

if my hands are my because I'm a very aggressive talker. And my body language a little bit aggressive.

Italian. So we talk about yeah, I'm just a hillbilly, but we still we we we talk a lot.

And I don't I always kept my hands in my pocket. So it was very evident I did not start the fight.

Yeah. And I had to be punched first. Yeah. And I'm willing to take the punch to the mouth or

there whatever. So the problem with the pockets is like, they could say, Oh, I thought he had a

weapon. You know what I mean? So that's why you want to have them not in your pockets. Fair enough.

But I get what you're saying. You know, like take it as but I if I didn't have a weapon,

that's their mistake. And they're still guilty. Right. Right. Right. Now, if they do seem a little

more violent, you want to have your hands like this. Okay. So up in a semi defensive position

and open. Right. Okay. Don't have this. Oh, fair enough. Just like, Hey, man, back off. Yeah. Right.

Because now if he does make a move, you can instantly get into a stand. That's actually

better than the pocket thing. Yeah. Now, like if it's mostly verbal costing, and and they're like,

making demands or, you know, like, especially true for police, right? Stop acting like you got

somewhere to fucking be, dude. You're on the clock, you're getting paid. My taxes are paying you.

So stick the fuck there and take your time. Right. Right. Don't rush the person because that's

going to make them agitated. Right. That's going to make them more likely to do something violent,

or something stupid. And then, Oh, I had to do it. It was a clean shoot. No, it wasn't a fucking

clean shoot. You're just a stupid fucking asshole. Yeah. Right. Stop rushing people. And they even do

this at traffic stops. Right. Like if you're if you don't know where your registration is,

like, come on, man, I don't got a fucking day. Yes, you do got all fucking day. We're paying you

to be there. Right. So stop rushing. Don't tell them that they don't like that. Well, but it's

true fucking now. It's true. Your cop stop rushing people. You are not nervous. They may have never

been pulled over by a cop before. And they're just kind of like trying to they're in shock.

You're getting paid to be there. We aren't so fucking take your time. Not a big deal.

So as far as like how to interact verbally, yeah, don't say command words. Okay. Right. Like, hey,

knock it off. Or, you know, like, instead of like, try and ask questions. What's your problem, man?

Like, what do you want from me? That is more deescalated. And that is a great philosophy.

And try to remain calm, right? Because if you give angry energy, right, now they're going to

again, double up, right? So like, what do you want, man? Leave me alone. Right? I don't have a

problem with you. Why just leave me alone. You know, like, and I don't want to do a super deep dive

because I've already been talking for 20 minutes. And that's fine. You know, I don't have anything

for my second back. I'm going to respond to your God, you're useless. Now I grow tomato plants,

eat tomatoes and beans, learn how to act in the crowd. I've covered a lot of stuff. But these are

just like basic things to think about. And the other thing is like, you get pepper spray, right?

I've already mentioned pepper spray is legal in all 50 states unless you're a Fallon.

Not bear pepper spray. No, they go all the way. Yeah, bear spray. It's the same thing. Oh, is it?

Because you can't bring that to Canada because there's bear on it. You can't bring where? Bear

pepper spray in Canada. Why don't you go talk about Canada? Okay. In the United States. I don't

you whatever. I do think bear pepper spray might be illegal in some states here. I don't think

it's all the same. I think there's a longer trajectory on that. That's not we don't need to shoot

that. But anyway, yeah, like have pepper spray and use that instead of punch because guess what,

if you don't punch things regularly, you're going to break your fucking hand. And that is very,

very true. You don't want to break your hand. It hurts. So I know. Are you done with you? I got

a couple responses and they're not bad. So a few things you said kind of made me laugh. And the

reason why is I had a job at a I had worked in Chicago. I had a I ran a couple of different

high rises and I was always given freedom on managing the like the loading dock or the movers

and delivery guys. So I was allowed to be a little bit on the aggressive side because they were.

So I worked at one particular high rise and I had a fairly large staff and I was like,

okay, guys, well, and to boot one of my favorite movies is the original Roadhouse, not the one

now, not necessarily a bad movie, but it didn't need to be named Roadhouse. So my favorite movie

is Roadhouse or one of them. And I said, I wonder what I can get away with saying this

somebody before they punch me because I don't I believe if you're five to 10 seconds into a

conversation, an aggressive conversation, and that person hasn't punched you yet, they never will.

And then to boot, I would try to reenact any scene from Roadhouse in this scenario. So I would get

into it with people and like one guy, we had one guy who was a mover and this dude was all jacked up,

but he was short. Not that it matters because all jacked up, he was angry. I'm like, dude,

you wake up angry. And him and I were going back and forth. He threatened to hit me with a haymaker.

No one a haymaker is but instead saying, I'm like, Oh, you name your punches. Do you greet

you? I was brutal with this guy. Just wait for him to throw a punch. He would not throw a punch.

And the cool thing was, I'm going to move my truck out of the loading dock, which is all I wanted

to do in the first place. And I'm going to beat your ass on the street. I go, Okay, he pulls his

truck out of the moving loading dock. I grab one of my janitors and my stock the gates. And we just

and he saw road out. You understand, you're too stupid to have a good time. He just locked him out.

But trust me, this altercation lasted about 20 minutes. He had numerous times of punch me and

he never did. And actually, prior to moving to Perup, Nevada, I was never taken up on that offer.

No matter what size the guy was, he could have been my size. It's kind of hard to find bigger

enough delivery guy, but big enough or whatever. And no one ever took me up on and actually the

funny one was it was a black delivery guy. This dude was probably my size. And we had a black

doorman and the race comes in a second. And the black doorman was saying next to me, the delivery

guy was harassing people that live in the building. And I'm like, Yo, dude, you're out. You're done.

He's like, No, I got to deliver. I'm like, No, you're going to walk out. You're going to come the

fuck down. And then we're going to talk and you might be able to come back in here. I go, You're

leaving now. And he's walking him and he's hard staring me, you know, and you know, and I'm like,

dude, you got two choices. You can leave now or you can do what you're thinking. And the doorman

freaked out when I said that jumped in front of me, tried to push me against the wall to get me

away from this guy. And he's like, Dude, you know, you can't talk to a black guy like that. I go,

but I just did. And he's still walking towards the door. So it's good. It's not really a black

white issue. It was just more of a one black guy was trying to help another one out. But it was

all fun and games because honestly, that's all it was to me is fun and games. But yeah, no one ever

took me up on a punch to me in the face. Most people don't even know how to throw punch. No,

oh, the other thing I wanted to mention. Go on YouTube or maybe rumble or someone that doesn't

censor this kind of stuff, but watch street fights. Yeah. So like, and what you're looking for is

what attitudes or behaviors are likely to happen right before a street fight. So like,

yeah, because you want to know what to look out for. Right? I agree. Is this guy just posing or

is he really going to do something? And like when you watch videos of street fights,

you kind of can get the difference. And you can also see like what kind of stupid people do

because most people have no idea how to fight. Right? I mean, like you can go to one week of a

martial arts class and beat those people because they have no idea what they're doing. Like they

literally have no idea. Well, I think the best advice out there was Mr. Miyagi. If someone throws a

punch, don't be there to receive it. Yeah. So but the reality is, is you should take self-defense

classes and it doesn't have to be in depth or really involved, but you want to know and practice

how to do a couple of things. And probably one of the biggest things, there is a tactical response

to be put in the headlock. Yeah. And you need to know how to get out of that because that can

put your lights out really quick. And with the problems in this country right now, headlocks

might be the preferred method to shut you up. So learn how to get out of it. And basically, it's

knowing, basically spinning your body with your neck and your head away from the cusp of your

inner elbow. And you want your back of your neck to be here. And then you're opened up to start

defending yourself at that point. But take some training, learn how to do it. I think people

should learn how to de-escalate and defend yourself without violence and then what to do

if violence occurs, how to end it right away. Right. And there's also classes for de-escalation.

So like this is just a basic primer. If you really want to get into this stuff. And if you're, or if

you're a cop, take a fucking de-escalation class. They don't do that in the academy. I mean, it's

absurd. Right. That should be basic training. And don't ever fold your thumb into your fist. No, that's

that's a good way to break your hand even worse. Actually, what's funny is the same building as

that before some guy we were talking to, he's like, well, yeah, I was taught how to fight. And he's

like, he put his hands up like this. And I'm like, were you taught to fight in the 1950s? You know,

seriously, dude, I'm just gonna punch you in your hands and you're gonna punch yourself. Learn how

to fucking properly hold your hands. I mean, hand placement, foot placement, the spread of your

shoulders versus where your hands are staying. You hold your left leg back, your right leg back,

based on if you're left or right. Right. So to learn this stuff and practice it, because you might

need it sometime. And if you don't practice it, it's not going to be there to protect you.

Holy shit. Went down some weird roads on that one. But you're more de-escalation. I'm more

of like, well, I'm not saying I'm not saying I do this myself. I'm just saying,

because you're the first way that's the smarter way to put the first step I said was right.

Assess your threats. So like, honestly, if it's an old guy, and he's talking shit,

starts to fight, but he should start to fight. Not his false teeth right now. Right. Like,

I don't give a fuck. But some of the old guys are bad ass. So be careful. It's like any movie joke

that gay guys, they're men too. They might whoop your ass. So the reality is,

I've always tended to take the aggressive side, because when I'm especially younger,

I have my size and that was my benefit. And I try to utilize that. And I've gotten myself out of

situations by being the aggressor without going hands on with somebody. Right. Because I mean,

that can help. But sometimes, but I mean, if they have a weapon, like you're gonna hit your

good wood side with so many numerous times, and I agree with that. So you've got to know where

your comfort, comfortability is at. Is that a word? Yeah, I don't know. You got to know where

you're comfortable at and got to know what you can do and how you can protect yourself. And maybe

we should move forward into some like self defense classes. The guy that I had lined up kind of

flaked out and he's now out of my life for some weird reason. He's no, he was the head of security

of my job. And he just up and quit one day. I'm not thinking this trip anymore walked out the

door wrong. We're like, really? Yeah. Actually, I just didn't show up. Oh, no. No, he's like,

I'm tired of this. And walked up there and drove away. We're like, what just happened? Like,

we didn't know he was building up hostility. And then it all came out as apparently the wrong time

because he couldn't save his job. I mean, we could have worked with him. Interesting. Because he was

a great guy. But sorry, Greg, miss you, brother. But yeah, but I if you can't, if you don't know

some I can find somebody or we can just what we could do is just use like a dummy. We could bring

Travis in here. I use him as a dummy. There you go. No, I think we should get someone that does

this for a living or no, I agree. It would be nice to show people how to do counter maneuvers,

how to do a strike maneuver if you have to, if you have to, and how to get out of certain popular

holds. Right. I can like wheel the bike out of here, get a mat, we can turn the camera. We could

probably do something pretty nice because that is one of my vision or one of our visions of the show

is to do in some self defense techniques because that is a part of survival. And the deeper we

get into this country in the next few months. Oh, yeah, that is one topic I missed though. But

it might become quite apparent. And then one type of guy did miss his fucking NATO.

They're pushing us into a they're writing a check that America's gonna have to cash

with Russia. Isn't the point? It needs to fucking stop now. We're not fighting. We'll

fight here before our kids fight over there. This is not going to happen. There's enough people that

are not going to allow our kids to go over to fight some weird fucking issue that NATO's got.

So staying strong people. Are we good? I think so. I think we are done. See you next week. Maybe

maybe for a live debate. Oh, that would be awesome. Thank you for joining us at the Canadian Decades

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