Alright, welcome to the Canary in the Cage Podcast. It's a special edition this week because
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we have an interview at the end of the show. You really want to hear this because it's
a crypto guy out of Columbia.
Columbia.
And what's the Outlaw Crypto?
Well, the Outlaw Crypto is his podcast and he goes by paranoia machinery.
He's a really cool guy. If you don't follow him, follow him. Watch his shit. He's a very
entertaining guy. So I'm Ron Morgan, my co-host.
Dave Havlicek.
We are here to entertain you, educate you, and hopefully make you laugh.
So what the hell is going on?
I did not pay attention to any news this week.
Good for you.
A couple of minor things that I will cover.
You know what I've had an ass full of?
Yeah.
Is this...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Well, it's a statement. It's not a gay thing. Although, I mean, I'm not saying gay is wrong.
I'm just saying. I just said I'm getting sick and tired of you.
I'm James O'Keefe. Oh, we're going to release all kinds of stuff.
I've got big policies coming out.
What the hell is he talking about?
None of them did shit.
Right. Wait.
I'm James O'Keefe, which I love.
No, no, no. To be fair, he does have this tactic where he announces something,
he gets the other person to react, and then he shows that they lied.
Right? He does it a lot.
So this one was, I've got three big stories coming out.
All my staff has to go into hiding.
And I've given Alex Jones, he's going to be the dead man switch.
But Alex Jones says he's the dead man switch,
but he doesn't know the facts of the story.
So how does that work out?
Is it encrypted or did you take out advice?
I don't know. I was just kind of...
Because we did a show on dead man switches.
But all I know is James O'Keefe came out with Prince Andrew as a pedophile and fuck kids.
Who didn't know that?
I'm like, we knew that already.
Everybody knew that.
And then Trump is like, I've got big news coming out.
Okay, great. Oh, we've got to deal with UK.
Hey, Trump, okay, you've had your 100 days, you've had some fun,
you've done some good work. I'm not denying that.
But the reality is, how about doing some for the American people?
How about putting some money back in our pockets?
Because we were broke here.
We're tired of this.
You know, sir, they say...
They're brokeer than we are.
They're brokeer than we are.
You're the government?
Yeah. That's $6 trillion in debt.
Well, they've got all this golden forked knocks
that they've got at $0.30 an ounce.
I'm sure they do.
But it's worth $30,000 an ounce.
But whatever, I'm not getting into that
because apparently that's not...
We can't talk about that either.
No, it's time to help the American people.
Now, I'm here in parts of the country.
Gas is below $2 a gallon and it happened here.
Well, they said there's our own unique shit going on.
Well, so I want to talk about that.
Vegas, we have high food prices.
We have high gas prices.
You go to Arizona, which you can get to
an hour in one direction, an hour and a half in another direction.
They're gassed the dollar an gallon cheaper.
Why are we not buying our gas from the same place Arizona is?
Because of the law.
Why?
Because of the government.
No, see, that's...
We need to change that.
Because we're not seeing that downgrade
in prices at the grocery store.
We're not seeing that at the pump.
We're sitting here.
You're not going to.
What, everybody else is across the country?
Because they have better laws than we...
On that matter, they have better laws than we do.
I mean, you get somebody that goes,
Oh, it's delivery fees.
Don't look at it.
It's not because you want to deliver to the gas station
in downtown Chicago
or Vegas.
It's no different in time wise.
Right.
We're open roads.
They got traffic.
Yeah.
And you can't say it's a desert
because, again, Arizona is desert.
Yeah.
They don't have that.
So I'm getting really tired of these high prices here.
It's all Nevada laws.
It's what it is.
It's just Nevada law.
It may be Clark County law.
Like, I don't know what it is in other...
Yeah, I don't know what Reno's...
What Reno did in fact, but it's getting ridiculous.
I'm getting really tired of this.
Well, then...
No, I mean, I...
I'm voting for Democrats in the assembly.
In the Nevada assembly.
You know, we...
You know, that's another pisses me off.
Everyone's like, well, they're voting for Democrats here.
No, we're counting until the Democrats win.
And that means...
I don't know, man.
As soon as the mail-in balance come in,
the Democrats win.
I think they're actually winning here because...
I don't think so.
Because the Republicans really don't try in Vegas.
They just don't.
I agree with that.
But if you listen...
If anybody listen to the national media,
we understand the Democrats are woke.
They're progressive.
Right.
And we don't like them.
But yet, they're still winning.
But I'll give you an example from when I ran for Congress.
The Republican in my district,
I didn't even know the guys.
Nobody knows the thing.
Sam Brown?
No.
That was the Senate.
Oh, so yeah.
Nobody knows who was running for district one in Congress
because he had no signs.
He had no billboards.
He did no TV commercials.
He did nothing.
Right?
It was basically a gimme for Deena Titus.
Yeah.
That's the game they play.
So the Republicans are like,
well, we'll give you Nevada,
and then you give us Florida or whatever.
Whatever fucking deal they make.
That's how it works.
That's very possible.
I'm not going to deny that shit probably happens.
But it just happens to me every state
that keeps counting past the day of elections,
a Democrat always wins.
So I'm just getting fed up with it.
I'm getting fed up with Trump's cabinet picks.
I mean, Cash Patel's funny in front of the Senate.
He stood his ground.
He put a senator in her place.
But how about showing me some mug shots?
I mean, Trump wants to open up Alcatraz,
go right the fucking head,
and lock up the politicians.
Yeah, I mean, he's not okay.
So remember what we said?
He would like use these interference tactics
to throw the Democrats off.
Now he's doing it to us.
Yeah.
And to his own people.
Like, did Trump chill out?
We gave you your first hundred days you had.
Do something.
Yeah.
You know, I'll give him the first hundred days
of having fun fucking with people.
Tell him he's going to buy Gaza.
Tell him he's going to build a hotel on Alcatraz, whatever.
It's funny as fuck, and I love it.
But how about some effects and change in our lives right now?
Put some money back in our pockets.
I'm really getting tired of this.
He's like, oh, I'm going to make changes,
or age America that's more money.
We'll do it.
Yeah.
Is this this omnibus, this big, beautiful bill?
It's the best bill ever.
Well, now it was supposed to be for Memorial Day.
Now it's before the Fourth of July.
But are you going to get it passed?
Because you don't have the Senate.
You may have Republicans in the Senate,
but you don't have the Senate.
Okay.
That got proven today.
You had to pull the attorney for DC,
the federal judge for DC had to get pulled
because of a guy that Trump supported,
and Trump got him passed the finish line,
tried to get elected, and this guy won't back Trump.
There's so much.
Well, that's the issue because I get like,
you have this like team mentality thing where it's like back Trump.
But no, his job is to back the law.
No.
So I want to know what the actual issue is.
No.
So the law is, well, first of all, it's the American people
gave a mandate to the.
No, that's not our words.
No.
You have to obey the law.
You have to.
What law are we following?
I don't know.
I'm asking you because I don't know what the issue is.
Well, okay.
So there was a DC judge, federal judge for DC circuit,
and he will not get passed the Senate
because he can't get the votes.
Yeah.
And why?
Because he questioned the J6 arrest.
So, but the guy who held it up, I don't even write his name down.
I don't fucking care.
He got passed the finish like a Trump endorsed him.
And now he's turning his back on Trump.
Now, sure, Trump was putting another judge in,
and we'll see if this one gets passed.
But I'm tired of this.
Give us effects.
Get rid of the income tax.
Yeah.
That's what I want.
Give us the upsting list.
And at this point, I want the moon landing files.
I want 9 and 11 files.
You want to fuck with the American people.
You promise this shit?
You give us nothing?
You give us nothing.
Oh, we're going through the upsting files
to make sure that no victims are.
Yeah, I saw a post that they're going,
they're watching hundreds of hours of Kitty porn.
Like, yeah.
Okay, so.
I don't want to see the Kitty porn.
No, no.
I don't want to see the videos.
But they've gone through 100 hours.
I want to see the list.
Right.
Of the clients.
Right.
Give us the list.
We're out the kitties.
No, just give us the list.
Don't show the videos at all.
Give us the list.
But here's the thing.
You've had it done something in the first 100 days.
How about you release 50 pages, 100 pages,
whatever it is that you've already redacted.
But make sure you're not redacting the people that control you.
Okay.
Well, then they have to.
So, I mean, there's a lot of speculation going on.
And apparently it's the financial groups.
Like, did you know Chase paid off a lawsuit
to the victims of Epstein Islands?
I did not know that.
It was a lawsuit filed in another country and Chase lost it.
Yeah.
Well, what country?
Because a lot of other countries are retarded.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, these things are pretty.
I'm just sick of it.
Just give us our shit.
We want to see if we're not going to stop.
Trump, you want, so Trump won't technically
say he's supporting anybody that runs for president after him.
He's like, well, Rubio would be good.
Vance would be good.
We all know Vance is going to get it.
Unless you don't give us what we want.
You promise us something, be a man of your word,
and give us the fucking Epstein vials.
Jesus.
So, I'm just, I'm getting sick of it.
Everyone's promising us shit and no one's delivering.
That's the government.
Right?
Well, I don't know what you're talking about.
No, I get it.
But we voted for it.
That's right. I didn't vote for the lever.
We voted for a different kind of government.
No, you didn't.
No, that's what we, that's the bill.
Did you say that every four years?
And it's just, it's not, you never did.
You got to admit Trump is different than most.
He's different, but not in the way that
he matters.
I mean, Trump, yeah, whatever.
Just get under control and give us our shit.
Get rid of Pam Bondi.
Hell, seriously?
You want someone to release the Epstein vials?
Hire me for a day.
I'll come and release.
Well, let's, let's turn to some good news.
How about that?
Do we have good news?
You know, we have some good news.
We're going to give some money away.
Oh, that is good news.
Holy shit.
Is it taxed money?
It's Monero, so.
So it's not taxed?
That's up to the, that's up to the recipient
if he wants to pay taxes on it.
We do not have a wheel this week.
Oh.
Because only one person met the challenge.
Okay.
Which was to join the Scanners Room on the IRC, Dark Web IRC.
Now, guys, I do these challenges not to like,
have you do the ones you already know how to do, right?
I want to get you to learn things you don't know
and you haven't done yet.
Yeah, we're trying to.
So when I say get your ass on the dark web
and join a chat room,
get your ass on the dark web and join the chat room.
I want to see you clear net people in that dark web.
When I do a challenge on the clear net,
I want to see you dark web people doing it.
Okay.
So I guess it's not all good news
because I'm kind of throwing shade here, but
come on guys, step up and fucking do the challenges.
For last week's, we got one person that came in
and that was Ayn.
So Ayn, let's hope you don't throw your money away again this week.
Collect, please.
And Ayn also had a suggestion for us.
Oh, what's that?
So last week, Ron did not do his homework
and have a teaching topic.
But he told a story from work.
And Ayn was like, hey, that's actually really cool.
So I'd like to hear more work stories
in the event that we don't have a teaching topic.
And I thought that was a brilliant idea.
I won't do that.
I love story time with Ron.
Because yeah, well, not just Ron,
but like I have a ton of fucking stories from work.
And there's lessons behind most of them
where you can actually learn something.
Yeah, you can put your sleepy hat on
with a little ball on it.
I'll tell my story.
You can go to sleep.
It's great.
So yeah, we'll start doing that.
Yeah, no, I got no problem.
Thank you for the suggestion.
I love telling stories.
This week, we're not going to have any training
because we had a guest.
Right.
Well, let's talk about this week's Monero Challenge as well.
What do you got?
So I want you to tell me the Monero address of our guest.
And you have to go find it.
So I'm not going to give you any other hints.
You have his name, you have his podcast.
Give us his Monero address.
I like it.
So yeah, I'm a little bitter right now.
I had some dealings with the IRS this week.
Okay.
I mean, it did not go well.
I wonder why.
I'm looking at big balls going, you didn't hit the late dude.
I really thought you would.
I thought you'd have a brother out.
But apparently you didn't.
Yeah, it's not good.
But whatever.
Pay your fair share.
Which guy?
I'll survive it.
Yeah.
So, oh yeah, I guess I get to ship in my fair share
and give money to people who want to transition in Ireland.
That's right.
Or people that want to like see how many times a frog farts
That's right.
In Australia.
That's valuable research.
See how many times the kangaroo hops and you know, whatever.
Just cut this shit, pass your big beautiful omnibus bill
and get the fuck on with it.
And let's see what you can do, Trump.
I mean, I want to support you.
Your cabinet picks.
I mean, okay, so Cache Patel, he made me laugh in Congress
when he was in the Senate, when he was telling off that Senator.
I don't have the video because I don't really care at this point.
Look it up if you want, but it's just, you know,
don't I don't really need the FBI director to make me laugh.
I want to see mug shots.
Yeah, it's a nice, it's a nice cherry on top, but we need the cake.
Yeah.
Yeah, I want to see mug shots, man.
Just give them to me.
Bam Bondi just fucking quit.
Seriously, just quit.
Why are you here?
Why are you in that seat?
Why are you filling that office for?
And James O'Keeffe said you're compromised.
Yeah.
I said you were compromised months ago.
I think they're all compromised.
That's a problem.
You can't find anyone that's not compromised.
What the fuck happens in DC?
You don't want to know.
No, I mean, I get it.
I made a statement months ago that Bernie Sanders says that they,
the deep state, you got to compromise yourself or from the deep state to get,
to get name recognition, fine, whatever.
But I thought the Trump administration was going to be different.
You're going to stand up to them, but apparently you're not.
Nope.
You're sucking dick on camera and they got you sucking a girl's dick.
And you can't say what you want to say because you're, they're released a video.
Well, she wasn't AG before that.
I want to see the video.
Right.
She was the AG in Florida.
Yeah.
So, so actually,
I'm sure she's covered shit up down there.
No, no, she covered for Epstein in Florida.
Oh, there you go.
There's evidence out there of that now.
It just kind of came out today again.
It's the same day, so I don't have it.
It's all the same club and you're not in it.
Yeah.
That's all it is.
I'm just, but, you know, I mean, I guess I would mind watching a video,
pan body, sucking a dick of a woman.
It'd be kind of funny, but I'm not just quit.
Just I'm done.
I'm done with you.
Get somebody else in there.
So how about let's talk about some other Trump cabinet stuff.
As you remember the signal scandal from the back.
So apparently, now I would this happen when I when I installed signal with you.
Yeah.
So you went to the app store and you typed in signal.
Yep.
And the first link, you were like, is that it?
I'm like, no, what the fuck is that?
So what these companies do is they hack the search results
to put their bullshit spyware in the first place.
And apparently this Mike Waltz guy installed the spyware version of signal
instead of the real version of signal.
And that and that's how maybe some of this got out.
So yeah, like when if you guys are installing signal, make sure you got the right one.
Don't install the fucking Israeli spyware version or the Chinese spyware version.
Scroll down a little bit till you find the right one.
And this guy, these people are fucking morons, man.
Yeah.
They're just fucking morons.
I mean, it's just like the same bosses, the new bosses, same like the old boss.
Pretty much.
Oh, I saw another thing.
Tulsi Gabbard apparently uses the same password everywhere.
And it's a very simple password.
Is it Tulsi once you?
I don't know what it was.
I didn't I didn't read that far into it.
But again, like these are top level government officials making rookie fucking mistakes.
And it's just it that's all they do, man.
They're fucking stupid.
Yeah.
I mean, the one lady under Secret Service Protection is a first-tolling buying an organized group.
Whatever.
God.
I want to see American people benefit.
Now, yes, you signed a trade, a trade deal with UK.
Great.
I love it.
It sounds great.
It's going to follow.
But here's the thing.
What's up in China?
What's what?
What's up in China?
So we're in a trade.
We're in a tariff or a China trade.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if you listen to the left, China's doing just fine and they're going to be just fine
without the trip without us.
You listen to the right.
Oh, there's the employees are committing suicide.
The banks are collapsing.
What the are you from China?
Contact us and tell us the goddamn truth.
I think it's a little bit of both.
I mean, China is a huge place.
They have like a billion and a half people or something.
But apparently they're broke right now.
Well, the whole world is broke.
Right.
Like the because the whole we actually talk about this in our interview coming up.
But the whole world runs on debt.
Right.
All the all these fiat currencies are debt and you can't you can't run a system that way.
You need sound money.
So basically what we're in right now is a race to see who dies first because we're all dying.
Right.
We're all fucked.
And it's just like, man, we sure hope those other people get fucked over first.
So that's all it is.
So here was my plan with the IRS is I wanted to die only the IRS and then I went.
There you go.
But apparently they're not going to let me get that far.
Yeah, they're going to fucking blood transfuse your ass.
Well, no, no, no, actually my son is like, well, they're kind of for me for that debt.
I go, yeah, they probably will.
So I got I had a life insurance policy to cover the debt.
Now they're going to be my house.
They're going to take all my shit.
So we might be doing this podcast in the middle of the street sometimes.
No, it's not that bad.
I tend to exaggerate a bit for you, but it's bad.
If I could come in expat, I would.
But my wife's still, my wife's pictures are public.
So there we go after them.
But you still owe even then you still owe.
Fuck that.
I'm in another country.
Come and give me.
They will.
They fucking went after.
I mean, Roger Verr is a lot richer than you are, but still they'll do it on principle.
They'll spend.
Country has no expedition.
They'll spend 20 million to come collect your ass to collect 50,000.
They'll do it.
They don't care.
I wish it was just 50,000.
I don't know.
I'm in a piss poor mood.
We had a great week.
Well, we did the interview already.
I'm not going to try to say we didn't.
I'm just going to be in this podcast.
I just broke the fourth wall.
Apparently.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
They know.
I know.
I know.
You guys love us.
So whatever.
I do have one more thing to cover.
So there's a crypto called Tari.
I might have mentioned it earlier way back, but basically what Tari is,
it's kind of like a smart contract chain that uses the privacy of Monero.
Okay.
So instead of like Monero's money and Tari is like, oh, you can do loans.
You can make gambling apps.
You can do whatever you want, basically.
And it just launched this week, two days ago, in fact.
Okay.
And the cool thing about Tari, now, whether you believe Tari is cool or not,
whether you believe the privacy is up to speed or not.
The cool thing is, is that you can do something called merge mining with Monero.
Okay.
So if you mine Monero, you can automatically mine Tari.
Oh, right.
You don't have to do, you have to do a couple of setup configs,
but once it's running, it's running.
So if you make, if you collect Monero, you also collect Tari.
So it's free.
And if you don't like it, you can just sell it.
So I'll probably cover that more in depth next week on a teaching topic,
but I just wanted to announce that it's live.
So go check it out and see if you like it.
So speak of privacy.
We talked about this on the interview with some privacy a little bit.
I mean, seriously, do we have privacy on the internet?
You can, you have to take it.
You have to take it.
So how do you actually truly get privacy?
Is it dark web?
Yes.
Is it truly private?
Well, I mentioned some issues with Tor last week.
So Tor might not be as private as people think it is.
I2P is pretty damn solid and they're constantly improving it.
Like I'm in the chat rooms.
They're, they're, they're working on the post quantum encryption right now.
So like even if they get a quantum computer, which I don't think they ever will,
they won't be able to break I2P.
Uh, I mean, it's Linux private.
Is Linux private?
Yeah.
Most likely.
Again, there's things they can do to sneak in, but it's, it's a lot harder.
I mean, they let you in and you're fed.
Well, yeah, but I'm just using it.
I'm not writing code for it.
Yeah.
So like Linux, you can read the code.
Like you don't have to take a binary download.
You can compile the code yourself and then you know that what you are running is the
code that you read.
Now, is there things deeper in the hardware that's fucking with you?
You lost me after the thought.
Well, I don't think you said the thought, but that's okay.
You lost me then.
I don't understand the internet.
I don't care.
I don't, I just, I keep my internet stuff, you know, simple.
Just get on I2P and then you're, you're home free.
You can do whatever you want.
No, no, no.
God, I'm just so frustrated.
Trump, give us some relief.
All right.
Should we go to the interview?
Yeah, let's go to the interview.
All right.
It's thanks for listening, guys.
Enjoy this interview.
It is a, it is a pleasure to have this guy.
We might be making this a monthly thing because I really enjoy talking with him.
He's really awesome.
And go watch his podcast and enjoy.
All right.
Welcome to Canary in the Cage.
We have an interview today.
So Dave, take it away.
Yep.
Well, we're here with Perinore Machinery who runs the Outlaw Crypto Podcast.
He's here to talk to us about CBDCs, which is not a brand of underwear.
Or am I wrong?
I think it's two different things.
It's a brand of underwear and it's digital currency.
Oh, okay.
Did you guys ever watch that show, Curb Your Enthusiasm with the underwear No Fly Zone?
The No Fly Zone.
I think I missed the last season of that show.
Okay.
Well, anyways, in the show, there was an episode with this underwear where this guy,
Larry, and his ex-wife separated, right?
And she was dating this dude that made underwear with like No Fly.
He was like, our studies show that most people don't go through the gates.
They go over the fence.
So do you know who Larry David's wife in that show actually is?
Is RFK Jr.'s wife.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't know if you knew that or not.
So I guess we're here to talk about crypto.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
I'll interject him and now on them, but that's not my thing.
I don't like crypto.
So I'll let you guys do most of it.
I'll just chime in when I got something intelligent to say, which probably will be never.
Look, I was thinking that Dave was the Fed, but Ron, we're using Zoom.
From.
Well, that's Dave's that's happening.
Dave's the computer guy here.
No, no, but you guys can't use like JitsiMeter or something like, you know,
like open source code that's not spying on us for.
That's what we talked to him on when he when we did it.
Global Cabal.
It's look, the thing is, like this is Ron's MacBook laptop and whatever I set up on there,
he has to be able to use.
So yes, I know, but there's open source things like run.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you open to learning a new way to do things that's more like.
Oh, he takes my laptop home all the time and probably I still spend my big account.
Well, yeah, I could install it down there, but like, I don't, I don't like it's a pain in the
ass enough just to get zoom to work.
And I myself am not very familiar with any of these networking tools.
So I mean, I can try and install Jitsi and see how that goes, but.
All right.
Well, fair enough.
Yeah.
I know how to find porn on the internet.
And it's about it.
All right.
Well, hey, all right.
So crypto, what do you guys want to talk about?
Like, look, CBDCs, like right now there's a website.
I don't know if you guys want to look it up, but it's the CBDC map.
And there's all these countries that are doing CBDC projects.
Right.
Now that's digital currency.
Is that, is that correct?
Yeah.
Facing out cash, bro.
It's going to be the mark of the beast and they're going to make you use their
negative interest rate, hyperinflationary currency.
And then like, because it's programmable, they're going to
like say what you can spend it on.
And then they're going to control how you can, you know, enter an exit and trap you in.
All right.
I got the map up there.
I'll be able to work out in Europe with that part of Europe lost power.
Well, I don't know.
Like they were saying people couldn't access their money.
They couldn't buy it.
Yeah.
I mean, that obviously like, but how's it going to be like when they're like, oh,
you bought too much Coca-Cola this week.
So your money doesn't work anymore.
No.
And that's, that actually is a real threat.
And that's one reason I'm totally against the digital currency.
Because they have, yeah, they have control and I don't like it.
So I don't want, I'm not a supporter of it and I never will be.
Cash is king of my world.
Yeah.
That's why like, well, maybe David's told you, but that's why Monero is so important
because it's the closest thing we have to digital cash right now.
Right.
So let me ask you a question on that.
So with Bitcoin, in my opinion, being taken over by the government, the US government.
Yeah, I agree.
You don't think that they're eventually, if Monero grows, that they're going to find
their way to weasel into Monero?
Well, I think they're probably going to try to, but like the difference
with Monero is that it's like 100% private and you can use it anonymously easily if you have
like other Opset like to project yourself from giving up metadata to, you know,
third party services and stuff.
So like basically if you transact to Monero only and like we just use Monero's money,
like, see, this is the thing, like people look as Bitcoin like an investment, but
bro, who invests in money?
Like you use money, right?
Right.
Money is what you accumulate and then you invest that.
Like people are looking at crypto all wrong.
Like it has to be money, right?
The medium of exchange.
So like I don't look at Monero like as a way to get rich.
I look at it as a way to freely transact without surveillance and without censorship.
So with the mentality of the world, what do you think the percentage of people that
can actually do what you were just saying?
I mean, anybody, like can you download cake wallet on your phone and use Monero as money
with your friends and family instead of using fiat genocide?
So I come from the school of anything I download on my phone, I think is viewable,
could be viewable by the government and could be controlled by the government.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, you could say that with everything I get.
Right.
And that's my problem with crypto.
Because I mean, if you look back at our history of our country, we passed laws back in the,
I think the 30s to control gold and silver and manipulate it and control its value.
And our government gave value to this stuff.
Yeah.
No.
I mean, that's a wonderful point, Ron.
And like that's what you have to understand is happening right now with Bitcoin.
Like when gold became manipulated by paper gold, like it was because of the ETFs that
they introduced, like in the 30s and the epoch that you're talking about.
And like really they're doing the same thing with Bitcoin right now.
And like the way they were able to undermine the gold standard was because they were allowed
to issue unchecked credit expansion against the physical gold.
Right.
So therefore the amount of physical gold could no longer keep the economy in check.
Like so the same things happening with Bitcoin right now, we have coin base,
like in the news, fucking talking about how they're doing off chain sales to the ETFs,
right in Bitcoin.
So if there's only 21 million Bitcoin, you have to understand that coin base probably
has like 45 million Bitcoin or something right now, because like gold, right?
With the paper ratio that the ETFs allowed in the 30s, like that allowed them to manipulate
the precious metals markets.
It's like gold and silver have like, I don't know, something crazy.
It's like 200 ounces of paper gold to one physical ounce.
And the same things happening with Bitcoin right now.
And that's my concern with all crypto that they will find their way to weasel it.
And if they don't, then they'll just find a way to take it over and arrest the people
that are using it.
Because I mean, the thing is, it's anonymous or private, right?
And then you act in a way where you maintain your privacy.
So if you're on the web, I agree.
But if you're not on the dark web, which in this country, we say is scary.
And the TV shows, the news talk about how scary the dark web is.
Don't go to the dark web.
You'll, you'll, you'll hire a hit man or buy drugs and they want to scare us off from going
on to it.
But if we don't use the dark web or on the internet, doesn't the government have the
potential to view everything we do on the internet?
I mean, fuck the government.
Like basically they are pedophiles.
Like it's been exposed that they're all a bunch of kitty ravers.
And like they don't have really any moral high ground to tell us what the fuck we're
doing.
So like the way I look at it is, look, these fucking pedophiles are trying to extract wealth
from us and like enslave us in a digital gulag that's about to be constructed.
Like they're using AI and like fucking total fucking surveillance panopticon.
Like you have to look at it this way, bro.
Right now there's 130 fucking countries that are working on a CBDC.
And like we saw during the COVID lockdowns that they were trying to say that people had
to have a vaccine pass or only one person could enter a store or this kind of thing.
And like, bro, I'm a Christian.
Like I look at it like this, like in the Bible it says that nobody's going to be able to buy
or sell, right?
Okay.
Because the anti Christ is going to impose like a global beast fucking system.
And for me, bro, like when I saw that shit with COVID happen, like I didn't think it was
possible in my lifetime.
I thought that was like some shit my kid would have to do.
Great.
But like I was like, holy fuck, like this is really like the the mark of the beast.
Shit, they're going to make you have a vaccine pass or a social credit or some shit.
And like when I saw what was happening in China with like how they had like these little apps
and gates and they had to like scan it.
And if it was red, they couldn't pass and shit.
Like I was like, what the fuck, bro?
Like, yeah, that's all that shit's wild.
So that's what they're doing.
The West is like fucking, you know, they have a huge hard on for this kind of thing.
They just can't like openly do it.
They're trying to like sneak it in, right?
Under guys of terrorism or whatever the fuck it is.
But money laundering, like invading immigrants, something like that, perhaps.
Yeah, maybe invading immigrants like, you know, like, so this shit, I see it happening.
Like they're trying to do this shit on crack.
And like in the West, CVDCs are like a taboo term right now.
So like the US is like, we're not going to do CVDCs.
We're making laws against it.
But really what they're trying to do, bro, is use stablecoins.
And that's like, I don't think we've really talked about stablecoins on our show.
So you want to give a quick rundown of what that is?
What do you mean?
Okay. A stablecoin is a cryptocurrency, right?
But like there's usually a company behind it.
Like there's the centralized ones too.
So don't get me wrong, but there's usually a company behind it that has a cash reserve in a
bank account somewhere.
So they say for one, you know, cryptocurrency token of a dollar, I have one dollar in a reserve
that backs this up.
So then you can use it like a crypto.
It's basically a dollar that has like the freedom of crypto to move internationally
for low fees and this kind of thing.
So the most popular one is Tether, right?
Tether started in like, I don't know, like 2013, 14, 15, somewhere around there.
And basically all the crypto exchanges in the fledgling crypto industry could not get banking
services.
The banks felt threatened by Bitcoin and shit.
So like they didn't want to give them like bank accounts and shit.
Right.
So they invented Tether as a way to like settle and have trading pairs and like this kind of
thing in between exchanges and large traders.
And then Tether became like the standard, right?
Because throughout the different bull and bear market cycles of the crypto industry with
the wild volatility and shit, all the traders in times of volatility would hop into Tether,
you know, to like avoid the volatility and then buy back in or, you know, that's they were trading
with it.
So like Tether became a huge thing and it's basically like the liquidity of the entire crypto
industry.
But now like Tether is going to be legitimized like on a global level.
I mean, Trump's talking about like stable coins and this kind of thing, like legislation is going
to be a thing.
So like stable coins that you can freeze them, you can censor the transactions obviously
because they're like a company, they're under KYC and AML regulations and FATF GAFI guidance
and all this kind of bullshit.
So like it's not like a real crypto, you know what I mean?
It's basically like PayPal.
And like that Tether is one example and like I don't want to talk shit about Tether because
Tether is actually the best stable coin.
Like if I had to use a stable coin, I would use Tether, right?
But there's other ones.
There's like USDC and then like there's all these companies because all these governments
are starting to introduce regulations around crypto.
So like now there's all these little local like different regional stable coins that are
popping up that are like USD this, USD that, Euro this, Euro that.
So like, but the thing is like that shit is basically PayPal 2.0.
It's not like censorship resistant, truly disruptive, peer to peer digital cash.
See my problem, well, I do want to acknowledge something that you refer to our politicians
pedophiles.
I love that.
So let's move on from that now.
I just wanted to say that.
But we can never move on from that.
I mean, I mean, literally, I mean, the show.
Yeah, they are.
Well, also apparently the banking industry is full of pedophiles as well.
And then Satan worshipers.
Yeah.
So that's what's kind of trying to go.
So that's where it's coming out.
But for crypto to work, you need at least two people to agree that it's safe.
And you need the buyer and the seller.
Now, you know, in a non-retail environment, I get it.
You could probably find that.
But if you needed to buy food or gas, do you think there's enough people out there that
understand it and it won't bend the knee to the government to take it?
I would say yes.
Like on a certain level.
Like I don't know about like locally for me and you, like in my neighborhood, maybe not.
Like right now, like I as a digital freedom activist have onboarded like two stores in
my neighborhood.
One of them is a tiny little grocery store.
One of them is like a liquor store.
And they have like a little like patio where people drink beers and shit.
So I can go like drink beers in my neighborhood and I can go like buy little
knickknacks at the little small like locally owned grocery store.
Right.
And like that works for me.
But I'm trying to onboard other businesses in my neighborhood as well, just on like an
activism level.
But like the thing is globally we have the dark web, right?
Which is the only free market in existence in the whole world.
Right.
But and they use Monero.
Second of all, we have the crypto accepting sites.
Like there's a bunch of them.
There's like my Nimbus, there's coin cards, there's all these different sites that accept
crypto primarily when they report their own data that they self report.
Like nobody's obligating them once in a while.
They'll post like, oh, this month like our sales were, you know, this percentage is a
Bitcoin, this percentage is a Litecoin, this percentage is a Monero.
Like Monero typically leads on the clear net.
And the reason why is because Bitcoin has been made like unusable for peer to peer cash.
Monero is always focused on being peer to peer cash.
And like peer to peer cash is what threatens them.
The ability for me and you to do business, even though we're thousands of miles away
at the push of a button in a way that they can't surveil or extract wealth from
as rent seeking middleman.
Like that is so fucking powerful that that could really disrupt the global economy.
And like the global economy is based on usury.
There's no substance to it.
Right.
So like if we have a sound money that is untraceable, unseasable,
like that's what Bitcoin pretended to be.
But like the thing is we saw with the Canadian truckers, the Bitcoin got seized.
It's traceable.
There's a billion dollars surveillance industry.
So like the only way we're going to be able to evade the digital ID,
like total surveillance, eat the bugs, program, CBDC, you ate too much red meat,
your carbon credit got your car shut off.
You tweeted and now you can't spend your money.
Like that whole shit, the only way we're going to be able to avoid it is to use something
like Monero.
And if Monero fails, there's going to be something else that fills that void,
because Bitcoin failed and now Monero is filling that void.
Right.
Right.
I agree.
Bitcoin has failed.
That's the beauty of open source software, though.
Like there will always be another implementation like freedom-minded people
will create something better and learn and build.
Like that's how Linux took over the whole fucking Internet.
You know, it's funny about that you bring up Linux.
I've talked to so many people about this.
They all bend the need to Microsoft because it's on their computer and they buy it.
They refuse to go to Linux when it's free.
It's free.
It's fun.
It's easy to download.
It's easy to work with, but no one uses it, at least in America.
I mean, in America, we're a little different here.
Zoom uses Linux, right?
Yeah, we're talking on Linux right now.
Just a quick aside here, there's three laptops in front of us that you see.
One of them is mine.
It's running Linux.
And the other two are yours.
Yeah.
And one's Windows and the other one's a Mac.
Because I'm not a computer.
I don't get into computers.
I don't get into computers.
I legitimately don't go on my Internet to do stuff.
I mean, I'll go on and have fun and read stuff, educate myself.
But I know I've had Linux on a lot of my laptops in the past, but it's just,
I'm like, I don't do enough to even worry about it because I don't trust the government.
I don't trust the fact that Linux can't be manipulated as well.
We have a society in America.
Hell, we still have people wearing masks in Vegas.
Yeah, but Linux is a lot less likely to be manipulated than an obvious,
like, walled, garden fucking proprietary software where nobody can see the code.
And they're obviously making sweetheart deals with the government to put back doors and shit in there.
Like, I would take my chances with open source software that could be manipulated.
I mean, we saw that.
What was that shit with the XZ?
Remember the fucking Chinese hacker that put like the fucking thing and the guy like SSH?
So like, I'm not saying like open source can't be sabotaged, but like,
we caught that likely.
Like, you're basically setting yourself up for failure by using shit like Windows or Mac or
fucking zoom.
Like, we're talking about the digital Gulag, the total surveillance panoptica,
and you're using their shit that they use to do that to you.
Like, yeah, like just out of principle, you should be using open source software that's like
privacy respecting.
I mean, I use that trust issues because they'd be looking at Liberty Gunsapes.
They, the FBI called them and said, Hey, we need to get into a gun safe and we need your master code
without a warrant, without a subpoena.
They just gave the master code over and now the FBI can get into Liberty Gunsapes.
So I get, I just have trust issues.
That's why with the internet, I'm just like, I do it for fun.
I don't do it for anything else because I don't trust it.
I believe anything when the government puts the screws to an American,
I would say 70, 80% of Americans will bend the knee.
And I just,
No, I understand that.
But I mean, do you not understand the principle of being low hanging fruit or not low hanging fruit?
Well, I'm not out there enough on the internet.
If there's a total surveillance panopticon that's going to try to make you eat the bugs
and tell you you can't travel and you have to drive an electric car that only can travel in a 15 minute city.
Like, yeah, are you fucking serious that you, you don't see a value to using software that will
protect your privacy and not give your data up to these fucking fascist corporations that are going to enslave you?
I'm not savvy enough to know if Linux wouldn't do that.
If, if, if they got it.
I would say I'm not either, but like at the same time,
I know there's thousands of eyes on the code.
Like it's not the same as like windows where nobody can see the code except for people that work for Microsoft.
And you know that Bill Gates is a sociopath trying to spy on you and take pictures with AI on your fucking screen every five seconds.
No, I agree.
But like I said, I, I'm not an internet.
I mean, I will, I do use internet daily, but there's nothing on that that I do that.
Do you use a VPN?
Yes, I do use a VPN.
Which one?
Ghost.
Is that one owned by Israelis and shit?
Like, like all, there's one Israeli company that owns all the VPNs except for like Mulvad and IVBN.
So here's the thing.
You just, me, if I use the VPN and I'm like, of course I do.
And you're like, which one?
I go, ghost.
You're like, well, is that owned by the Israelis?
So they, they, they would have, they have a back door in.
So yeah, that's like, do you use Zcash and Cinnamon?
Or like, are you using Israeli coin or?
I use, I, I, I legit use cash.
Just cash.
That's manipulate.
You do.
I agree.
It is, but.
Will you use goldbacks?
Uh, what would you do?
I guess I, I've heard the term goldbacks, but what are you talking about?
What is that gold coin?
Okay.
Goldbacks are like these bills, right?
They're like cash bills that they make out of gold.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know what they do, but there's like a manufacturing technique where each
goldback is literally like .0001 of an ounce of gold or some shit.
And there's different ones from different States and they have different values.
So there's like a $5 bill, $20 bill, one or whatever.
And they have a corresponding amount of gold, like woven into the
fucking fabric of the bill itself.
Yeah.
I actually have one.
And you can like melt that shit down and get the gold out of it.
Yeah.
I have a dollar bill that's gold and it was given to me back in 20, 23, you know, 2022.
And I don't know when it was made, but my question is the ounce of gold has
went up exponentially since then, since it was given to me.
Worth like four bucks now.
Well, but, but how do I buy a gallon of milk with it?
You get someone that has a gallon of milk and say, Hey, why don't you trade?
You want to go back?
Right.
But how they're, I mean, like you're, you're kind of acting like, like everybody else
creates the system and we just like beg at the mercy of it.
No.
When, when you can literally find a guy that milks cows and say, Hey, I want some
milk, would you like this gold back?
And you can do that.
You can.
If with Monero, you can do it too.
Like, bro, the whole point of what we're trying to do is build a parallel economy
outside of the usury system.
I mean, I support you guys a hundred percent.
I just don't see the value in it.
What do you mean?
You don't see the value of using money that they can't fucking spy on you and steal from you.
So keep in mind.
Are you fucking retarded?
No.
I did not tell him to say that.
No, and that's fine.
I did not.
It's no, but I mean, like there's money that they could like inflate your wealth away
at a whim because the central bank says some bullshit.
There's money that they could watch all your transactions and then tell you you owe 40 percent
of your economic activity to them as tribute.
And then there's money that is fucking anonymous, basically.
And you can use with your friends that's outside of that system and they cannot steal
from you.
And then this money cannot be inflated either.
And it goes up in value over time.
Instead of money that loses value over time, why wouldn't you use crypto instead of fucking
money?
Cool.
Cool.
It doesn't go up in value because you have to.
The person you want to give it to has to trust that that's actually fucking gold.
And you know, the scammers.
No, but that's where crypto like Monero solves that because it's cryptographically fucking,
you know, sound like there's no dispute.
It's mathematics.
So how did crypto work out in Europe with the power outage?
I mean, how did it work out with the power outage?
Not everybody had their power out.
Like the internet still works if you had your phone up and shit.
Yeah, but I mean, it all's good if we got power.
But I mean, I can go out and use, I can use crypto.
I can use cash.
I can use whatever.
But when the power is out, it's not tangible.
It's not you.
What are you going to do by going to milk with?
Well, I said I sent you this, but you're not going to get it.
And did you remember during the pandemic, like six months before there was an event 201,
which was a pandemic, COVID fucking cosplay practice thing that they did before they did
the actual COVID hoax.
So that happened.
And then there's another one that they're working on called cyber polygon, right?
And apparently there's going to be cyber attacks.
They're going to knock out huge swaths of the internet.
It could maybe even make the financial system collapse and they have to bring in digital
ID and social credit and all this bullshit as a, you know, Hegelian dialectic problem
reaction solution scenario.
But the thing is, bro, like they're never going to let the internet go out all over
the world at once because they need the internet to maintain the level of control.
That they're trying to impose on humanity.
So like, even if the shit was out in Europe, like if you had a generator and your phone
could hook up to the internet, you could still send transactions, bro.
And they're never going to like wipe out the internet all over the world.
We haven't covered it on the show yet.
And I have it in my queue, but they have like these lower mesh networks now where like you
don't even need the system, right?
Like you met Stonegrid and like it runs on a simple, like you can actually hand crank it
if you really need to.
But what I'm talking about is the person you're buying from, that person has to one believe you
and also, no, there's no power.
They have the same Laura mesh.
Okay. It's a little device.
It's like a phone, but it uses way less power and it just uses like long range radio waves.
And like you can send your monero over that network.
So how many stores in Vegas has outside of the internet?
They're going to get them when the power runs out.
They're going to get them when the power runs out.
Well, they know then they starve.
They don't starve.
No, we don't all starve.
The power is not going to run out everywhere either.
That's what's retarded.
Like the power is only going to go out in certain areas where they're trying to impose
like agendas and shit.
If you really look into our electrical grid in this country, we have a very weak electrical grid.
And we buy most of our transformers and our electrical components from China.
Now, yeah, but when it goes out, it's going to be the government that does it to you for a strategic reason.
Right.
It's not going to be like unless it's like a fucking natural disaster that they didn't
cause with the harp fucking radio.
It's like, see you and I, we, yeah, I believe in all that stuff.
I believe the the Bowie fire.
I believe the fire.
Dues.
That was heart, bro.
They were bouncing that shit off the ionosphere.
David, I argue on this before, but I don't believe you don't believe in it.
You don't believe in the heart.
The energy weapons and top secret military.
They would love if they have that kind of shit.
But I don't think they're that competent.
No, they do.
I think they have it and I think you're hiding it.
If I were working on that shit, I would expose it so fucking fast.
No idea.
But it's not only that though.
I mean, you look at like the hurricane that hits out the Asheville.
Okay.
Hurricanes don't go that far into the country.
Yes, they do.
What are mountains?
Mountains are hurricane stoppers.
We have a history of long history.
No, we don't.
Yes, they do.
They record everything.
They've been writing this down for hundreds of years.
If a hurricane can hit Asheville, North Carolina,
or a hurricane can hit Vegas.
No, kid, it's not the same thing at all.
Miles from the ocean.
Miles from the ocean.
Hurricanes don't come from the west.
Hurricanes have hit Southern California before.
It's rare, but it has.
No, they don't.
Hurricanes have hit Southern California.
No, they have not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A box we could type works into to find out.
Hurricanes have hit Southern California.
So a hurricane can hit Vegas.
If it hit Asheville, North Carolina.
But mountains are hurricane stoppers.
If they want to say a tropical storm hit Asheville.
If mountains are hurricane stoppers,
then the magical technology can't make a hurricane
go over the mountains because they would stop it.
What you're saying makes no sense.
No, they really have weather controlling technology
since the 60s, but it's this patent and shit.
The shit is advanced.
They have bullshit that they masturbate over,
but it's all bullshit.
Like you are giving them a level of competence
that like if you, look, I am a fan, right?
I work with these people.
It's interesting that you are so...
There is no fucking way these people could build a machine
to manipulate the weather.
There's no fucking stupid...
There's blisters out right now.
They're stupid.
They are unbelievably stupid, right?
They will argue about dumber things than Ron will.
I can't even go in.
Dude, hearts exist, dude.
Oh my God.
Both in your eyes.
Heart does exist.
I agree with you.
Yeah, there's an agency that makes,
plays make believe and tries to scare you into thinking
they have all this shit, but they don't
because they're not competent.
You know why?
They could never get it done.
Why didn't the houses with blue and green roofs go down?
I don't even know that that's true.
You're just saying it.
It's true.
How do you know?
Who told you?
Let's ask our guest.
Did you go on Google satellite and watch?
Or did somebody, did cat turn?
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Blue and green items,
do they burn with weapons?
I mean, I don't know.
I never heard about that until Maui,
but then I've seen all the rich people
painting their house blue like a week before
the middle of my understanding.
Well, how do you know that?
So, do you have two people that never talked before?
Who told?
Where did you get this info?
Because you didn't see with your own two eyes.
No, I didn't.
But the internet made that shit go viral,
and a lot of people said that.
And then China, they were painting the rich blue shit
because they thought the rest was going to use that shit.
It's show me.
Show me.
Okay.
You can't show them.
Look that shit up on your,
I know.
I have it.
I have it.
It's not going to scream at y'all.
It'll be loud.
They'll show a photo of an unburned house
out of context and say,
No, but run.
Show them that shit on your spyware computer, bro.
If that lets you sit.
You can't believe it.
It's not that I just, I've talked to government scientists.
There's no fucking way they can pull this off.
They're stupid.
Like the government scientists are going to tell you what
they want.
They're fucking stupid.
Yeah.
It's compartmental.
No stupid.
It's top secret.
Heart.
There's whistleblowers coming out with heartburn now.
It's, it's happening all over.
And it's true.
And it's happening.
And I'm damned to really pin my house blue.
Don't have competent people.
That paradise California shit was real, bro.
Like the whole city fucking.
Well, paradise and even southern kind of afford it.
Damn.
I mean, look what they did to Malibu,
Pasadena.
Yeah.
If you look at the permit, there's that shit.
Yeah.
They're years away from Palisades and all that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's fucked over there.
I'm telling you right now, that's, there's.
You believe those to be natural fires, Dave?
So I know a lot of them were started by arson.
Like they caught people starting fires.
Do you believe that?
Like they said that shit in Palestine.
Like, you know, the Israelis.
You got mug shots of those people?
I mean, we could probably go look at them.
They don't exist.
Well, you may have found one idiot trying to burn a bush.
But I'm telling you, those fires all started at one time.
How do you know?
Like you act like you know all the shit.
You don't know anything.
You're just repeating with some other dickhead on Twitter said,
okay, that guy could be the government trying to give you false information.
You don't know these people.
This is why I called David Fed for, by the way.
It's just so like, you don't know.
You're going off of information that you don't have.
Right?
Like we were talking about this before the show where like if a cop.
We have, we have five minutes left for this.
Okay. Well, I can get this done in five minutes.
If a cop detains you and you say, what am I detained for?
And the cop says, well, I don't know yet.
I have to go investigate.
He can't detain you in the first place.
He needs articulable facts on which to detain you.
So you guys are doing the same thing.
No.
We're like, you're saying, I don't know.
Therefore conspiracy, but you can't do that.
You need the articulable facts in the first.
Yeah. But like conspiracy theorists have been vindicated.
Yes.
We always sound crazy and then it's always true.
And like, so now I just believe conspiracies until you prove they're not true.
Yeah. Well, so let me ask you a question.
I say 40 million people, but that numbers could go,
it could go up between 20 and 40 million immigrants
that came into this country under Biden's administration.
I say they were invading army.
What's your view on that?
I mean, like I would say that there's borders for a reason,
but I think borders are fucking bullshit.
Like I think passports and like the the system that's in place
to prevent free travel is a bunch of bullshit.
Like in the 1800s, you just showed up on a ship somewhere
and fucking lived wherever the fuck you want.
Nobody told you shit.
Nobody had to look at a document.
Nobody told you you couldn't cross this line.
Like that's a bunch of bullshit.
So like integration laws back then because we
are the first grade in the 1850s.
No, yes, it was.
No, it was.
It was but we had a island in New York that took a lot of immigrants in.
Okay. But fuck that shit.
That was the first time that they fucking after thousands of years
stopped human free movement.
Like that's bullshit.
Yeah. I what I tell Dave all the time is if you're an open borders guy,
you should be an open property rights guy too.
Does it make any because it's a no, it does not make sense, bro.
Like you can't tell someone they can't live on the property next to you
if they buy it.
Yeah. But can I go to my neighbor's house and make a sandwich in their fridge?
No, but why would you think that anyone can do that anywhere?
You can't tell somebody they can't come become your neighbor though
if they buy the property.
Oh, great. Oh, 100%.
But that's what you're trying to do.
No, what I'm saying is Trump can say, no, that's reiling man.
I'm not buying that house.
I'm not doing Trump right now.
But that's what's making them.
You're saying, bro, you can't come here.
This imaginary lines as you can come here.
So does an imaginary line stop me from going to my neighbor's house
to make a sandwich?
No offense does.
Bro, it's not the same thing.
They're not coming here to like take the food out of your fridge.
They're just coming here and trying to set up their own life next to you.
But they have to cross private property lines to do that.
It's not all.
They're not coming across a public property.
They're not.
They're swimming across rivers.
Those owners' problem, not your problem.
You don't get a say in that.
I'm not saying I have a say in that.
Yes, you do.
You say the government makes a say.
Can I go make a sandwich right next to my neighbor's house?
You're saying the government decides who comes.
Not the private property owners.
You're saying the government decides.
I never said that.
Yes, you do.
That's what laws are.
It's the government deciding.
And by the way, Ellis Island opened in 1892.
Okay, we got, yeah, but we were allowed immigration before that.
Yes, we were.
Anybody could you show up?
We literally got to.
Bro, from 6,000 years of human history, like documented human history,
people could just travel wherever the fuck they wanted.
They go on a camel caravan.
They can fucking ride a horse.
They could walk.
They could fucking hop on a riverboat or go across the ocean.
And nobody could say shit.
Like the whole fucking idea that there's like nation states and fucking borders and passports
and like permission to enter.
Like this is all a bunch of bullshit, bro.
That's all state is bullshit.
Yeah.
Is it because of the Darien gap?
All right.
Well, our spyware is about to kick you off because zoom only allows like 40 minutes.
All right.
Unless we've been the knee and give him money.
But you're great.
Great talking to you again.
And indeed.
Thanks for having me on your show.
You guys are awesome.
Yeah.
You ever want to let your show get lonesome?
I love talking with you.
I really do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Come back on the show.
Like whatever you guys want to just let us know and it won't do the same with you.
All right.
For sure.
Cool.
I'm going to make you guys my regular guests.
Oh, please do.
I really.
The world is not ready for this.
I'd rather talk to you than Dave most of the time.
Even though you call me like Dave does, but I'm okay with that.
All right.
Well, thank you guys.
Like it was awesome being on your show.
And yeah, let's do this shit like every month or two.
Okay.
Yeah.
Definitely.
All right.
Cool.
Have a good one.
I know you too.
Take care.
Bye.
Bye.
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