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RON: All right, you're listening to Canary in the Cage. I believe we're at episode seven. Wow.

Six more than Don Lemon. Suck it, Don. No. So I'm Ron Morgan and my co-host, DAVE: Dave Havlicek.

RON: We are here to entertain you, lie to you, make fun of you, whatever we can to make you

watch us. We don't care. So like we mentioned last week, we're going to talk about hackable cars.

DAVE: Well, before we get to that, I would just like to say what the fuck is wrong with you people?

I'm giving away free Monero. RON: Oh, you suckers. DAVE: And nobody has taken it. RON: It's a free dollar.

It'll be $7 by the next day. So I would take it now. But no, we didn't say that we were going to

talk real quick about the Iran and Israel thing. Yeah, the start of World War Three,

the forever war that will keep Joe Biden king of the United States forever. DAVE: Election canceled.

RON: Yeah, there's talk about that. So I did like Joe Biden's response in the media. They ask him,

you know, do you have a message for Iran about attack in Israel? And his response was, "Don't."

So I really thought that was a weird response because I'm sure he's heard that word in the

past and it didn't work to him. Every time he got in the shower with his daughter,

I would imagine he said, dad, don't, and he still got in. So why would he do that?

We use a method that doesn't work. DAVE: He's got no brain right now. RON: Oh, yeah. DAVE: Did you actually hear

today Joe Biden came out as libertarian? Did you know that? RON: Did he? DAVE: Yeah, I'm pulling up the quote

RON: Okay, so so if Joe Biden is the new libertarian came to the president, I'm voting for down ballots.

DAVE: So so Biden says, are you ready to choose freedom over democracy? Because that's America. RON: Oh,

DAVE: there you go. RON: Joe Biden libertarian. All right, we'll see if he gets past the libertarians at the

convention. You got a boo or vote for him? DAVE: Well, if you say something like that, I might have to

vote for him. RON: Okay. Awesome. So what did I want to talk about next? We have, well, this is the

seeding of Dubai, the rain. DAVE: Oh, yeah, yeah, they seeded the clouds. So it kind of went overboard.

RON: So my wife will call me out on stuff if she thinks I'm making it up or I'm not sighting my sources

properly. DAVE: Yeah, RON: she could not find they cloud seeded. Everything was global warming. But yet I heard

the minister of something in Dubai say they were clouds. I know they were. DAVE: So I didn't look, I didn't

follow up in any sources or anything, but I've heard both stories. RON: I've looked it up. DAVE: And I mean,

like, why would global warming make it rain in the desert? That doesn't make any sense.

RON: Well, it's global warming. It doesn't make sense. DAVE: Oh, okay, there you go. RON: Everything's global warming.

My garage is warm today. It's global warming. DAVE: It's like 88. RON: Well, right. But that's global warming

because we're in April. If we were in June, 88 would be fine. DAVE: Right. RON: But we're in April, it's

global warming. There you go. You heard it here first. Truth. DAVE: True. RON: Oh, let's see. I think

we might go ahead and move forward to the driveable. Oh, no, shit. Oh, almost forgot. So we

talk about stuff here. Sometimes we're way off. And sometimes we're pretty close. DAVE: I think you're

the one that's way off and I'm pretty close. RON: I don't know about that. I'll take the earthquake thing.

So counting on the Congress, Republican Congressmen to quit. But Cannibals. Cannibals is in the news

again. DAVE: Oh my God, I heard this one too. RON: So Joe, so Dan Bongino is one of my podcasts I listened to.

He was talking about how to season. See, we didn't get into that. DAVE: Oh how to season. RON: Yeah,

how to season. We were talking more about who would taste the best. DAVE: Right. RON: We're still thinking

Portland for dessert people. The Portland people because, you know, well, we're not going to get

into making fun of vegans again. I don't need them chasing me down. But so even Joe Biden mentioned

cannibalism because his great-grandpa, uncle, brother, sister, cousin, somebody was flying an

airplane before the Air Force was invented, of course. DAVE: Right. Before the Air Force. RON: Right. Before

the Air Force. And he crashed into New Guinea. DAVE: Something like that. RON: And they ate him. And they ate

him. Now, another podcast that I listen to is Litter Box. And that's Catturd. So Catturd has

put a message out to any cannibals out in New Guinea who possibly could have eaten Joe Biden's

father, grandfather, brother, sister, whatever the hell he is, to get on the Litter Box and talk

to Catturd, do some DNA samples to see if we actually got that. DAVE: There you go. RON: But then again,

I mean, you know how, you know, X notes stuff? DAVE: Yeah. RON: The federal government noted Joe Biden.

DAVE: Really? RON: Yeah, they said his plane went down the ocean. DAVE: Right. RON: So the New Guinea thing probably

didn't happen. DAVE: Well, so, I mean, when you go down in the ocean, right, like you try to get to land,

and then land where the cannibals are, then they eat you. RON: Okay. I was thinking maybe like you get

eaten by a shark, and the people of New Guinea caught the shark and ate the shark. DAVE: Who knows?

RON: I guess we'll never know. It's one of those mysteries of Earth. We'll never know.

DAVE: This happened while Joe Biden was riding the train over the Maryland bridge, right?

RON: With no train tracks over a thousand times. And there's no way he could have done that.

Holy shit, the line is. DAVE: But hey, he's libertarian now. So, you know, we.

RON: Oh, he's libertarian. He's the most honest man out there. I tell everyone to support him if he's

a libertarian. Although we're going to have to compromise a lot of our principles to bring that

ban in here. But yeah, we'll just tell him, you know, actually, we might, if we get to him, we

can talk to him because we're libertarians too. Maybe we can influence him and he'll just say

what we tell him to say. DAVE: Yeah. Oh, yeah. RON: Because right now, I mean, it's what Obama and Clinton

tell me more to say. Maybe we can do that. DAVE: Right, sure. Okay. Joe, Joe, freedom over democracy, Joe.

RON: Constitutional carry, Joe. Don't take my guns. Oh, I don't have any guns. I'm sorry about that.

The FBI's listening. I have a squirt gun and I have a slingshot. DAVE: I think the FBI might be our

only listeners at this point. RON: Yeah, we're like, we're gonna be the best. They're gonna do a

highlights reel of us at Christmas time. Look at these two idiots. No, that's fine. So, Dave here

has done some massive research on can a car be hacked? And I didn't do very much, but I'm gonna

fake it. No, but I think cars can be hacked, Dave, take it away. DAVE: So, so, so cars as a whole object

can be hacked. RON: Right. DAVE: So you have an infotainment system, you have Wi-Fi, you have Bluetooth.

But so in computing, we have this concept called air gapping. RON: Right. DAVE: So, you know, my laptop is here,

your laptop is there. Now, obviously, we both have wires coming in and out and we both have Wi-Fi.

But if I had no Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth, no wires, there's no way your laptop could affect mine.

Right. RON: Well, we are the same internet network, though. DAVE: We are now. I'm saying if you had none

of that stuff. RON: Okay. DAVE: If it was in fact, if it's this thing, right, this is a computer,

we're gonna get to this later. RON: Okay. DAVE: This cannot be hacked from your laptop. RON: Oh, I don't know. I mean,

I'm quite the hacker. DAVE: There's no way there's no connection. So anyway, so that's that's kind of

what's going on in a car. Right. So you have all these systems that are accessible to the outside

world. And then there's other systems that are air gapped from those first systems. RON: Okay. DAVE: So

things that control your brakes, your steering, the engine, those things are pretty much air gapped.

Now, what you can do, and this is the research I did. So every year in Vegas, we have what's called

Defcon. RON: Yes. DAVE: The black hat hacker conference. RON: Don't take your phone. DAVE: Now, they have a car hacking

village. RON: Okay, DAVE: just people hack cars. So what they've been able to do is unlock a car, get into the

infotainment system. This is now this is the bad one is they could cut your engine off while it's

running. RON: Okay. DAVE: And that's about the worst thing they can do. RON: All right, because I was reading an

article USA Today, I'm not sure they're a reputable source or not. DAVE: I don't think so. RON: Okay. But they

did say a car can be taken over and operated. They gave a name for it. I don't want to mess my

computer. I want to stop the podcast. DAVE: If that were the case, I would expect black hat hackers to

RON: So it's official black hat has never hacked and driven a car? DAVE: No. RON: So okay, so they can't do it

like a remote control. DAVE: No. So and then the other reason and the way this discussion came up is we

were talking about some politician or something that was threatening to blow a whistle or I forget

the details, but he died under suspicious circumstances. Oh, that's a driving his car. RON: Oh,

oh, the story that I was telling? DAVE: Yeah. RON: No, I think that was the couple that was here that the 10-1

shooting here in Vegas. DAVE: Oh, okay. So either way. But um, so let's say you had someone saying

shit that you didn't want them to say. Now, you could hack their car. Let's pretend cars are

hackable. RON: Okay, DAVE: you can hack their car and have it do something funky and drive into a tree, RON: right?

DAVE: Or you could just slip something into their drink and you know, they're probably going to do something

stupid and crash into a tree. And which one's easier? Which one is more traceable? RON: No, and that's

true. But I mean, but if you're looking at a situation, because I still believe that the bar

to hit the bridge was cyber hacked. I truly believe it was, but we'll get to that in a second.

So the story that I was telling was after our 10-1 shooting here in Vegas back in 2016,

2017, I think it was. DAVE: Before I moved here, I know that RON: there was a preponderance of people that

that were at the concert that died afterwards. Now you could do the math and run the percentages

and go, well, X amount of people die a month and that month was within its, you know, within the

parameters of it. Who knows? But it was one particular couple. They were driving home to

their gated community and their car drove at high speed into their gate that they've driven through

thousands of times. The gate was not open and it was no attempt to open the gate, but the car

drove right into it. Now, so there's a possibility people were saying that car was hacked. I don't

know. I'm not a computer guy, but I do believe that this can happen. But getting back to the

cyber towing of a boat, there was a story happened a year and a half ago in New York.

It was about a guy who potted at a yacht and he had a friend come on and the friend had his

cell phone with him. And through the cell phone, they hacked the boat's navigation system and was

able to make the boat just drive in a circle. DAVE: That's another thing you can do is with cars,

you can hack the nav system and like make people make wrong turns or like swerve off the highway,

but they're choosing to do that. The car itself is not doing that.

RON: But this yacht captain said he had no control over the ship and he has not captained the boat.

DAVE: Yeah. So with a boat, they have autopilot systems.

RON: Yes, they do.

So if you hack the nav system, then the boat will do and it's on autopilot,

then the boat will do that, but cars don't have that.

RON: So a boat is probably hackable, but you're saying a car is not.

DAVE: At the moment, cars are not hackable in that way.

RON: Okay. No, no.

DAVE: But I mean, even just cutting the engine off, I mean, that can kill people.

RON: No, that's dangerous. Yeah. But I'm talking about actually driving the car into a tree or something.

DAVE: Right. Yeah. I mean, it's, even if you could do that, it's really not worth it compared to old school

methods of just RON: cutting the brake lines, DAVE: cut the brake lines, put something in the drink, you know,

RON: like, yeah, but you got cameras and you're saying doing that if you can be in like, I don't know,

China. DAVE: But hacking them is traceable as well.

RON: So what about the computer chips that the computer board has made overseas? Can they be set up with

a back door to get into cars? Like all of them. DAVE: So in theory, they could be, but again, that's an air

gap system. So there's no way to talk to that back door. RON: So there's no way they can program the

circuit board or just whatever parts are made overseas to be able to jump that air gap.

DAVE: No, not to jump the air gap, but what they, well, okay, maybe, but it would be not that hard to detect

because like you'd have a, you'd have a Wi-Fi components on the board. You say,

what the fuck is this doing here? Right? Just rip it off.

RON: Oh, so, well, I mean, you know where you're, you probably, you would go, do you have

circuit boards in your car? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, you gotta have at least one car with no

circuit boards. DAVE: Yeah. Well, no, no, I don't have. Okay. Even the DeLorean has circuit boards in it.

RON: Really? DAVE: Yeah. RON: That does has no circuit boards. And my VW bus out there has no circuit boards.

DAVE: I think we want to do an episode on like classic cars, because like that's a huge thing where,

you know, getting, getting these unknown computing devices out of your car.

RON: Yeah. Yeah. That's actually why I'm a big fan of VWs because I mean, they're the old air cooled

stuff. They run no matter what you turn that key and they just start, you know, so, and they are,

they're, they're totally 100% unhackable. You cannot hack my VW bus or my three-wheel track.

I promise you that because there's no commuter boards on it. DAVE: But the one thing they could do now,

they could put a timer on these circuits. RON: Oh, DAVE: that you wouldn't be able to easily detect. So

like they could say, you know, five years from now at this date and time, switch the mode over

so that we, so that the car does what we want it to. RON: Okay. All right. DAVE: You can't control it in

real time. Like if the car was to do what it programmed to do. RON: Since you had more technical

technical terms than I did, I guess you win this one. But I still, I don't know. I still don't trust

the car manufacturers, the government, because the government is making cars made a certain way.

And maybe they're the ones doing it. I believe in China because that's the easy one. DAVE: So I mean,

I don't doubt for a second that they want to do this. But the problem is,

RON: You're saying it's impossible.

DAVE: It's not, no, it's not impossible. It's impossible without detection. And also impossible without

the smartest people in the world, which aren't the governments taking it over. Right? Because I

guarantee you, if they put that in a car in one week, hackers will be taking that car over. Because,

because so, and this gets back to the hold till we go to the moon thing, we're like,

the government scientists back in the day were actually the smartest people in the room.

RON: Okay. DAVE: But today, they're the fucking last in the class to graduate.

RON: Well, yeah, but you, they kept notes, right? DAVE: It doesn't matter. RON: So they should be able to reproduce

the moon. DAVE: It doesn't matter. Well, they didn't keep notes. Well, actually, they threw them away.

RON: Or so, so, so this is, this is, this is very true. This is not my conspiracy. NASA did tape over the

moon landing. And their response, I mean, I almost believe it because their response, their response

is we tape over everything. We just re keep running, re running our reels. Now, I don't know,

I don't work for NASA, but you can clip certain things of a film, right? And save it in an archive.

DAVE: If you want to. RON: See, that's what they should have done. But instead, they taped over it.

And that just leads more to the conspiracy is why they tape over, or do they actually have

the footage? DAVE: Wouldn't have even thought it would be in question. RON: It's the moon. That question is the

moon landing. DAVE: I get it. RON: It's like, it was like, what, that's got to be the best thing if we did it.

They have the best thing done in the century. DAVE: I mean, the original Hollywood movie, or I guess

there was in Hollywood back then, but, you know, best picture winning movies, they're just gone

because they taped over them. RON: Oh, DAVE: because they didn't say they back then, your mentality was,

well, you show the movie in the theater, and then we're not going to just waste money

just holding this tape. We're going to reuse it because it's expensive.

RON: Okay. I guess they were smarter than us. So now, DAVE: but as time has gone down on the government

scientists get dumber and dumber, I mean, they're just they're fucking stupid. Because it's all a

game, right? It's all, it's not can we produce the best results? It's can we get the most papers

out the door? RON: And as long as the right words are on those papers, they get published. DAVE: Right. RON: Okay.

But no, but going back, I do believe the the barge was cyber hacked.

DAVE: I think it's possible that the hack disabled the power, but then they just had to let what

happened. RON: No, that turn was that turn had to be didn't have to be there. They turned right into

the structure of the bridge. DAVE: Sure. RON: But I don't know. DAVE: Like I said, if you do this to 100 barges,

a couple might hit a bridge. That's all you need. You don't need all them. RON: That's fine. I still

say we did. There's some cyber attacking going on. But I mean, like because now the company came

out last week and said, our boat was fine. We had no problem with it. Our staff did nothing wrong.

But now the FBI is on the scene. What, three weeks later? DAVE: Yeah, after they said no terror.

RON: Right. So now they're investigating something. But now they're blaming the ship. They're saying

the ship had electrical problems before it left the port and there was navigation issues with it

as well. So now who do we believe that made the company that owns the boat or our government?

I mean, I just go, well, I'm going to go with who's lied to me less. Let's play this game. And

since the main, the boat companies maybe never lied to me and the government has a lot. So I'm

going with the boat. I'm going with the crew crew did nothing wrong. But was fine. Government set it

up. DAVE: You been following the Trump trial? The New York, New York Trump trial. I think this is the Hush Money

case one. RON: Yeah, that doesn't exist. Even the even the Stormy Daniels is like, it's not an issue.

DAVE: They did jury selection this week. RON: So the charges have not even been levied against him yet,

because any charges that can be levied have to be federal charges. And it's the state prosecutor.

DAVE: Wait, what? RON: Yeah, look up. DAVE: Well, then how is their trial? RON: That's a very good question.

DAVE: I mean, that was like 34 felony counts of the the RON: official charges have because a lot of them

were in statute of limitation now. DAVE: No, no, not for that. You're thinking of different cases.

RON: No, no, the this case he's in right now with Alvin Bragg. As they Dan Bongino puts it, the Twinkie eater,

because he's fat. But I mean, kind of like, pot calling the kettle black at this point.

I was so there is no state charges that can be levied against him is what I'm hearing.

DAVE: No, no, because so what happened was the the the crime is normally a misdemeanor, RON: right. DAVE: Unless

it's unless the money is used to commit another crime, okay, in which case it's a felony. And if

it's a felony, then the statute of limitations hasn't been reached yet. So that's how they're

doing that. They're saying, Oh, it meets the felony requirements. RON: So that's not what I'm hearing. But

I mean, again, I mean, DAVE: I remember reading about this RON: is what source we go to because everyone's

got their difference of opinion. DAVE: The statute on the misdemeanor charge is long gone. And they knew

that. So like, well, we have to find a way to make it a felony. RON: So didn't they say that he

used campaign funds to pay her off? That's federal. It's federal. DAVE: That's not the New York

crime they're going after. So the New York crime is falsifying business records. RON: Okay, DAVE: which is a

New York crime. RON: Okay. DAVE: And then if you falsify business records in furtherance of another crime,

which is the one we don't know what it's supposed to be, RON: right, DAVE: then it's a felony.

Okay, so I don't know what that other crime is. DAVE: That's what it's to be determined. RON: Right.

They're still looking for that crime. DAVE: And you would think that that would have to be in front

of the grand jury, but RON: or at least have the charge before you start the trial. DAVE: Right. RON: Yeah,

they're picking jury members. DAVE: It doesn't matter. The people they're choosing are you like, one girl

got dismissed because of scheduling conflicts. And they interviewed her. And they said, well,

what made you think you would be unbiased? And she's like, Oh, well, during COVID,

Trump made us do this and that. And like, did you listen to the fucking question? Like, what the

hell's wrong with you? RON: That might be the same lady. She was she accepted at first and then

discharged the next day because of a scheduling conflict. DAVE: Yeah, yeah. RON: So what she would, she

was being interviewed. But I, I, the part of the interview I saw was that she was already recognized.

Then she was not on camera, but she said what town she lived in. And then she was a nurse.

And apparently that was enough for people to go, Oh, I know who that is. And people start calling

her out. And then, and then she had a scheduling conflict, which I get. I mean, that's the thing.

Like I, I personally have jury duty Monday. I know.

DAVE: And they're actually making you go in? RON: I mean, I gotta call. DAVE: Oh, you haven't called yet.

RON: Yeah. But I'll be, yeah, more than likely, I'm assuming they will.

DAVE: Well, I got jury duty a while back and then I called and they said, you don't have to go.

RON: Well, I did check I'm a libertarian. So that might discount me right there.

DAVE: Probably. RON: Cause they don't like rational people. DAVE: Right. RON: Okay. So yeah. So, but my point is, is

they're going through these jury members like crazy. There are any, I think,

DAVE: Yeah, how can they find any? There's no, it's New York City.

RON: Trump. Yeah. I've never heard that name. Right. DAVE: It's on the giant fucking building on 59th street.

RON: Yeah. I don't know anything about him. But no, but you have to, you know,

you show up to your civic duty, but if no one can be by it,

Oh, DAVE: this is actually pisses me off about a lot of libertarians.

Like they'll get jury duty notice and they throw it in the trash and then they brag about it.

And I'm like, like, this is the one thing that we can do to stop them. So like,

you need to take this seriously. I wish they would call me for a jury. I would fuck these people up

so bad. I mean, like not guilty. Just not guilty. RON: Well, so, okay. So that's the problem though.

Because I've talked to a lawyer and I'm like, well, I'll just go in there and answer other

questions insanely. And they're like, well, you don't want to do that because you might find

lawyers might want an insane person up there because it's DAVE: okay. But I don't want to get out

of jury duty is what I'm saying. I want to be on the jury. RON: Yeah. No, I mean, because that's the

thing. I mean, if I, if I was in New York on the Trump jury, would I want to be on it or not?

Because I mean, you could write a book. I can't write a book, but I could ghost write a book

about it. I could, you know, get some inside information on that. I mean, it's

DAVE: I want to be on any jury. I don't give a fuck what what try what case it is what state I want to be

on any jury just so I can nullify. RON: So not guilty no matter what? DAVE: Not guilty. RON: Oh, man, DAVE: We have video.

Not guilty. RON: It's AI. DAVE: I mean, prove it. Reasonable doubt. I watch a lot of true crime. Have you

ever watched? RON: a little bit or something like that. DAVE: Like you you watch these things and they and they

say stupid shit like, Oh, in the police interview, he was nervous. Like, what's so fucking what?

What is that? RON: Everybody would be nervous. DAVE: Right. And like, they don't have any and there's no evidence

or there's just shit evidence in all these cases. RON: Yeah. DAVE: And yet the jury comes back guilty every

single goddamn time. I mean, like, who are these fucking idiots? RON: Well, that's the thing you get.

To me, it comes down to the dominant personality in the jury.

DAVE: Well, that would be me. RON: So people are influenceable and people want to be impressed.

DAVE: But why do they always go towards guilty? I don't think they even I don't think they even discuss.

I think they just say, Yeah, he's probably guilty because otherwise they wouldn't arrest him RON: because

it's ingrained in us to think someone's guilty if they get arrested. But libertarians go, Well,

no, that's not true. But there's less libertarians than there are others. DAVE: I mean,

O.J. was in the news, right? Because he died. And people were talking about the trial again.

And like, the big joke is, Yeah, O.J. did it and he got away with it, blah, blah, blah. But like,

did you remember the trial? RON: Yeah. DAVE: I mean, the evidence was fucking terrible. RON: Yes. DAVE: The prosecutor

was like the most incompetent. RON: They had Marcia Clark. DAVE: Maricia Clark. And they had Mark Furman.

Mark Furman was a cop. And they were like, Have you ever said the N word? No. Here's a tape of you

saying the N word. Hello, like, come on, just fucking be honest, at least for the first part.

And then they they botched the DNA, right? This was the first big case that had DNA evidence. And the

text just fucked it all up. They altered the scene of the crime, you know, before and after

there were photos before and after and the crime scene was different. And it's like, how is this

evidence? RON: Yeah, but I still say it was not that was not guilty for a different reason. DAVE: But

either way, RON: I mean, you're right. And that's the problem. And I agree with you on that.

Cops make a lot of mistakes and cops will go after the quickest way to close the case. So if

you're arrested, shut the fuck up. DAVE: Shut the fuck up. I want my lawyer. RON: Yeah. DAVE: That's the only word

you say. RON: Oh, wait. Oh, if I can remember this. So I was reading something and oh, Jesus Christ.

Lenny Bruce. DAVE: Yeah, comedian. RON: Probably the most relevant comedian in comedian history, just because

he kind of he got arrested for swearing on stage and he kept doing it. And he he kind of dug his

foot in the ground and he was not going to stop. And I think that that furthered comedians, which is

a great thing. But he has a quote that says like, if the government wants to ban the word fuck,

because if they banned the word fuck, you can no longer say fuck the government. DAVE: Right. RON: So it was

just a nice quote. I thought I heard I dig it because I dig Lenny Bruce. I mean, he's he is

definitely the Godfather's of comedy. So well, the cyber towing thing, I was going to take a little

bit longer. We got that we're gonna flare some arms and shit. And but I guess wasn't prepared

for the wrath of Dave and his technical knowledge of air gaps. DAVE: Yeah, I sat down and I went on YouTube

and said, okay, Defconn car hacking, watched them all. My God runs just dead. He's dead.

RON: Now, okay, but if there's a phone involved, the phone's hooked to the car, does that get you

past the air gap? DAVE: No, again, that's navigation, the infotainment navigation, maybe the engine,

depending on the make and model. But you're not going to be able to take over the, you know,

the auto steering functions or any of that shit. RON: All right. DAVE: Now, like, if you got physical access

to the car, RON: you could make a key, DAVE: then well, you can make a key or you could, you could undo the

air gap, right? You can hook those systems together. And then you could do that. Okay. If you have

physical access to the car, you know, just put a bomb in there. Why are you making things complicated?

RON: Well, but I mean, okay, so the case, so a lot of people don't probably don't understand this.

In the case of the couple from the Las Vegas shooting that were that was like died suspiciously

in their car, there was it was probably like seven or eight people that died suspiciously

after the event who had witnessed stuff. I don't want to get into the conspiracy involved and,

you know, the Vegas shooting because there's a lot there. But there was a lot of suspicious

stats. And maybe they didn't want to blow up the car. Maybe they wanted to make it look like an

accident. DAVE: So the biggest problem with undoing the air gap is you've left a big piece of evidence.

RON: But if you're investigating it,

DAVE: well, yeah, I mean, but again, like, the more people you need to involve in this thing,

the harder it is to keep quiet. RON: True. And I agree with that. So, and then, and that's kind of the,

I think you might have brought this up, but a lot of people do that with the moon landing. They're

like, there's too many people involved. DAVE: Right. There's thousands. RON: I'll disagree with the thousands,

but I mean, because you gotta figure people at NASA could have been sitting and looking at a screen,

talking on a microphone, and they're seeing that the movie they've been filming you talking.

DAVE: Well, no, but so there's just, there's engineers that worked on rocket engines. Like,

why are we building these things to just throw them away and not use them?

RON: Well, but they, but they felt they were being used. DAVE: Right. Well, if you're going to go to the

trouble of building them, why not use them? RON: Because you can't get past the radiation level on the

moon. DAVE: Of course you can. RON: No, you can't. It's impossible. DAVE: Lead foil. That's all you need.

RON: Then let's go back to the moon. DAVE: Why? It's a waste of money. RON: No. DAVE: We don't have smart scientists

anymore. The smart scientists are working at Tesla, are working at Starlink. RON: Private industry.

It's like the missiles that we were given to Ukraine. No one knew how to make the missiles.

They had to call in retired people to teach the people how to make the missiles again.

DAVE: So I don't know if I want to tell the story. Okay. So I do work for a science lab, okay?

And I do the computer stuff. So I do like inventory management systems and just boring

shit like that. And we were converting from one database to another. And then the old database

had as many digits as possible for a number. RON: Okay. DAVE: And the new database cuts off at like 38 digits.

So I was converting the old data into the new data. And this came up like we're one of the numbers

that had, you know, 40 digits. I said, well, what do you want me to do with these extra digits?

And like the science, like scientists, right? They threw a fit. They're like,

oh, we need those digits. We need all 40 digits. And I'm like, I didn't say this to them, but

there is no instrument in the world that can accurately measure 40 fucking digits of precision

on anything. Right? Like, so you don't know what the fuck you're even doing. Like the reason those

digits were there is because we convert it from one unit to another. RON: Okay. DAVE: So like if you had gallons

and you convert to leaders or some shit, and then it rounds off to all those digits. So it's not

like they measured it and got 40 digits of precision, because we don't have any instruments

that can do that. RON: Okay. DAVE: But they don't know this. They just think we need all the digits.

Like, no, you don't. You need like six digits, dude. Come on. So like the scientists,

they're not sending their best. I'll say that. RON: Well, that's a sad, sad day America then, isn't it?

Well, we can't even produce what we used to produce. It is because I mean, no,

you actually have it about a point. DAVE: Better technology. RON: Relying on computers and stuff.

I think it has dumbed down. DAVE: Oh yeah, for sure. RON: Dumbed us down. Yeah, nobody has thought of

how to do the basic shit anymore. No, and that is, that's gonna be a problem in this whole

electrical grid collapses and we're without power and we're without computers. How are you

guys going to survive? DAVE: Well, that's what the show's about. RON: Only if we had good advice to give them.

DAVE: Maybe we should. RON: Maybe we should. Maybe we should look into that.

No, and that is stuff we'll talk about. Again, I don't see a doomsday scenario here because

I'm not a big selling fear person. But the reality is, I mean, we all know something bad could happen.

The forever war possibly. You know, anything to keep Trump out of office, apparently.

And actually, I mean, if there was a better candidate out there, I'd be on board,

especially the libertarian candidate, but we'll see. DAVE: Well we'll see what we can do in May.

RON: Is there anybody even in the scope of things that might be a good person?

DAVE: Well, I think the Mises Caucus has thrown their weight behind Michael Rectenwald.

RON: I don't think I've heard that name.

DAVE: Really? He's been in the Tom Woods Show a bunch.

RON: Yeah, I don't listen. I should listen to Tom. Well, I like to listen to podcasts and give a

different view than a libertarian like because he's like Dan Bongino. He's a Republican.

Catturd is, well, Cat Turd is more of an independent. He's only Republican vote for Trump.

And then I also listened to Redacted and I don't know what they are.

I would think, what's that?

DAVE: They them?

RON: Actually, they talk about that quite a bit.

They're more deeper to the conspiracy stuff and it's really kind of cool because they bring

up some stuff that I haven't heard of yet or a lot of people haven't heard of because even I was

asking one of our meetups like, where do you get your information from? You have to say some crazy

shit. I'm like, why have you met me? But no, and that's, that's where I'm getting it from is

because they'll say something and then I'll be like, if it interests me, then I'll start to do my own

research, which is very, very frustrating because of going back to cloud seeding thing.

I saw the interview with the guy from Dubai saying they were cloud seeding,

but every article says global warming.

DAVE: Well, so yeah, Rectenwald is a former commie.

RON: Oh, DAVE: like he was a commie into his late 40s or something.

And then, you know, he started, you know, just reading more and more and said, wait,

this is all bullshit. I think he was a professor too. RON: So, well, that doesn't surprise me.

DAVE: Well, I mean, that takes a lot of balls to be in that line of work and say,

you know what, this is all bullshit because your whole livelihood is behind that.

RON: Yeah. But wasn't there a lot? Was it McCarthyism?

There was that, Jesus Christ, now we're getting to my own.

There was a guy who was a communist and he was given a professorship and they hired a

bunch of commies into our universities as professors. So, that's kind of what I'm going

after. Now we've spun them off into the progressive left. So, yay.

Oh, Speaker Johnson. Is that his name?

DAVE: Yeah, Mike Johnson.

RON: Has he got to go?

DAVE: Obviously. I don't know what they're waiting for. It's, it takes one person, right?

RON: Yeah, there's two people that they're going to do it.

DAVE: Oh, put it out there.

RON: If he, well, they're waiting for him to push through the Ukraine bill.

DAVE: Why?

RON: Well, right. After the FISA thing.

DAVE: I guess because you needed a reason or something.

RON: The FISA thing is the only reason you need.

He was the deciding, it was a tie and he voted with the Democrats.

DAVE: Let's tell you what, if you guys elect me to Congress, I will do it every single day they

were in session. No confidence. Sir, I'd like to bring an order of no confidence.

RON: If the, the fact they put that in there, they deserve it. And you know honestly, I mean, if

he does get removed, that means the government shut down again.

DAVE: Good.

RON: And I'm glad, I love it when the government is shut down.

Do you want to talk about your thing?

DAVE: Yeah, I can go first.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: All right. So, today we're going to talk about single board PCs.

So, I brought an example with me here. This is a Libre le-potato.

It's one of those scary things made in China.

RON: But so it's hackable.

DAVE: Oh, anything is hackable. I mean, as long as it's not except that air gap.

But so single board PC is a computer, which is about this big.

That looks like shit on the camera, doesn't it?

RON: Is there anything I can do?

DAVE: No, it's just too, too bright.

RON: Oh, hold on.

Let me get the light down for a second.

DAVE: But yeah, it's this big. It usually has like four cores or eight cores.

They have two to eight gigs of RAM.

RON: Is that really better?

DAVE: Sometimes 16 gigs of RAM. That's a lot better.

Well, now we're just black. That's fine.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: But yeah, I mean, like these devices are great.

They take like five watts of power.

So the big name in this in this field is a Raspberry Pi.

The Raspberry Pi's are kind of the gold standard.

They have the best specs, but they are rather expensive.

Like you're talking 150, maybe 200 for one.

And the big problem with the Raspberry Pi is like they're never in stock.

Like you go to buy one, it's like, oh, it's sold out.

Except for the older, like older models might be in or the weaker models might be in.

They also make something called the Pi Zero,

which is actually even smaller than this guy.

It's like a little tiny chip.

And it's basically ideal for internet of things, IoT stuff.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So like, let's say you have a lamp that you want to, you know, work from your phone.

RON :Yeah.

DAVE: You can hook that up.

RON: Oh, yeah.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Yeah, we're doing something like that at work with the lighting.

DAVE: Yeah.

I mean, like you don't really necessarily want to buy stuff that you don't have control over.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So like if you put it on the Pi Zero, like you control that light and what it does.

And these are actually super cheap.

I think they're like 10 bucks, 15 bucks.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And they are always in stock.

So like if you're doing IoT, like if you want a thermos, smart thermostat,

microwave, your fridge, all that shit, but you don't want to cede control,

get one of these things.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Yeah.

Pi Zero.

RON: Speaking of thermostat, do not ever get your thermostat from the power company.

DAVE: Right.

Right.

RON: They control that thermostat.

No.

DAVE: Yeah.

If you want the smart one, but do it yourself with a Pi Zero.

RON: Yeah.

Do not get that the power company control your thermostat.

DAVE: But my favorite.

RON: Mr. Liberal.

They can get one.

DAVE: But my favorite devices, now they are made in China, but it's called a Libre le-potato.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: These are, it's a little bit less powerful than a Raspberry Pi, but it gets most things done.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: It has two gigs of RAM.

It's got a four core CPU.

It's $35.

RON: Oh.

DAVE: I mean, 35 bucks a piece.

Like this thing is more powerful than a computer from 2000.

RON: But can I figure out how to use it though?

DAVE: Yeah.

Well, you, it has SD card for hard drive.

So what you do is you load your operating system onto that SD card.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: Which you can either plug into here or you can plug it into USB.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And then you just put the SD card in and it boots right up.

And then you can hook this up to your monitor, your keyboard.

It's got four USB.

It's got an ethernet.

RON: Oh, that's cool.

DAVE: It doesn't have Wi-Fi, which is the big advantage of the Raspberry Pi.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: But it'll take a Wi-Fi dongle in one of the USBs.

RON: Dongle?

DAVE: Dongle.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: It'll take a Bluetooth dongle.

It's got an, it's got an infrared receiver on it.

RON: Oh.

DAVE: So if you have like a remote control, you can play around with it.

It's got the 40 pin input output board.

So you can actually do custom shit.

RON: Okay.

Oh.

DAVE: Well, the monitor has HDMI.

RON: Oh, okay.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Again, not a computer guy.

I'm not a computer guy, guys.

DAVE: I mean, it looks exactly like RON: the dongle?

DAVE: A normal computer.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Right.

So it's got the ethernet port.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Four USB ports.

HDMI is over here.

It's got a power cable right there.

It's USB micro power.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And now these do not come with any cables.

So you have to buy your own cables.

RON: I'm sure we all have cables lying around on the house.

DAVE: Yeah.

You paid 35 bucks for the thing.

And like all in all, you're going to end up paying maybe 60 bucks for, you know,

the board, the cable and some kind of protective case.

I get these things 3D printed, like 10 bucks each.

RON: Really?

DAVE: I've seen people build them with Legos.

RON: Oh, that's even cooler.

DAVE: I mean, like you can get as customized as you want, right?

You go on YouTube and just search.

They have all the 3D models for download.

I mean, like, they have, you know, artistic designs,

whatever you want to do, you know, and...

RON: Well, that's cool though.

DAVE: What I do, I get a big fan that plugs into USB, and then I stack them three at a time.

RON: Okay.

So your fan cools them.

DAVE: And then this one plugs into the bottom one, and the air just flows upwards.

You know, you put a little label on them.

I put Velcro tape.

RON: Oh, look at you.

DAVE: You can rip them off or put them back in.

Now, what do you actually do with these things, right?

RON: That's what I was wondering.

DAVE: Yeah.

I was running our Matrix chat room on one of them, but Matrix is a little resource heavy.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So I did move that off onto better hardware.

But other things you can do.

So one thing is great, they will run Docker.

Now, Docker is kind of like a virtualization environment.

So when people write software nowadays, they put it into what's called a Docker image.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And a Docker image just has everything you need to run that software in a big bundle of software,

where all you just say is, hey, Docker, give me that.

RON: Oh.

DAVE: So like, you don't got to install anything.

You might have to do some config if you want to have two things talk to each other.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: But other than that, it's just like download and go.

So, I mean, it's wonderful because Docker is kind of resource heavy.

But the fact that these little things will run it, right, you boot it up, you load your Docker image.

Boom, you got to working whatever the hell you want.

So some things you could put on them web servers, right?

Our website is not hosted on one.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Because I don't want you guys hacking me.

RON: Who would do that?

DAVE: Yeah, but you can run web servers on these things.

You can run your databases on them.

RON: It's obviously very portable as well.

DAVE: Yeah.

And yeah, so I was going to get to those uses as well.

But so your database can now be separate from your web server.

Because traditionally, right, you would have a big beefy computer.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: And it would run all their shit.

Now, if you have to reboot that computer, well, now you got to reboot all your shit,

right?

And everything has to wait for everything else.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: It's a big pain in the ass.

But here, like, let's say you only want to reboot your database.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Well, now your web server can stay up.

RON: Oh, that is kind of cool.

RON: But now is it like, is there a password protection on there in case you lose it?

Or is that even?

DAVE: What do you mean?

RON: If you lost it with the SD card in there, wouldn't anybody have access to it?

DAVE: Well, of course.

RON: But don't lose it.

Okay.

DAVE: Well, yeah, but you can do like hard drive encryption, which you can do on your laptop as well.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So what else?

I run my I2P node on one of these things.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So on my desktop, if I want to get on I2P, I don't have to load up a router,

you know, double click this and move this and blah, blah, blah.

I just hook up to my le-potato device and say, hey, give me that I2P site.

And that can stay running.

So if I have to remove my desktop, I'm still on I2P.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Monero node.

I run my Monero node on one of these guys.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Now for a Monero node, you will need a big hard drive because the blockchain is about 200 gigs or so.

So I just got a four terabyte SSD.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Now, if you do want to use that, you're going to need a powered USB hub because these cannot deliver enough power

to keep that hard drive running.

So what you would do is have the hub plug into your wall.

RON: Okay.

Secondary power source.

DAVE: Okay.

Yeah, secondary power source.

So the hard drive stays powered.

RON: Oh, that's okay.

DAVE: Now, this is a great one.

You can replace your Chromecast or Roku or Firestick or all that bullshit.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: You can have this thing run your TV box.

RON: But you'd have to put the content on there, correct?

DAVE: Well, not necessarily.

RON: Oh.

DAVE: So you can run, it's called Kodi.

So Kodi is an open source software that is designed to be kind of like a TVR TV box.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Managed, but it'll also let you play games.

RON: Oh.

DAVE: It'll do live TV, it'll do music, and there's add-on, like boat loads of add-ons.

Like whatever you want this thing to do on your TV, it'll do.

So you can run a media server.

DAVE: And you can, it's portable so you can take it with you.

That's kind of cool.

DAVE: Right.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Well, so what I do is I run one as a media server, and then I have one on each TV,

and those things talk to the media server.

So that way they don't have to download all the media or do the organization themselves.

I have the media server that just talks to my hard drive that has all the physical,

the actual files.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And then the media server, I use what's called Jellyfin.

It's just another open source software.

Some people use Plex.

I don't know, you have to have an account and I don't like that kind of shit.

Jellyfin, I run myself.

I don't have any accounts, just all me.

So Jellyfin does all the organization, right?

It'll sort things into by artist, album, track.

RON: Oh, wow.

DAVE: Movies by year, actor, director.

Like you can search on all this shit, right?

It just has everything.

So it's like being in Netflix.

But you run it.

RON: But you still need to be connected to the internet to do all this?

Or is it on the hard drive?

DAVE: Well, so the data will be on the hard drive.

But if you want that metadata, it has to connect to the internet to go fetch it.

Right?

So it'll see, like let's say you have the file called godfather.movie.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So it's going to say, okay, what is this movie?

Well, I'm going to search for Godfather and see if anything comes back.

Oh, Godfather, 1972, Marlon Brando, James Caan.

RON: You knew the year?

DAVE: Of course, this is Godfather.

It's a best movie of all time.

And so it'll download all that info from the internet and then store it.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So once you get it, it'll be there.

It's your data.

So then on your TV box, you can say, I feel like playing a movie.

What's Marlon Brando been in lately?

Oh, he was in the Godfather.

Let's watch the Godfather.

So yeah, it's great.

I mean.

RON: So if we ever were to, I say lose power, lose internet, and you had that in a solar generator,

you'd be watching movies.

DAVE: Yes.

And you don't need that internet part.

So like if your files are named appropriately,

yeah, right, you can still say, oh, I have Godfather.movie.

That's probably the Godfather.

I don't need the metadata.

Maybe you don't know that Marlon Brando was in it

Okay, well, watch the movie.

It says Marlon Brando in the credits.

And then the last thing I like to do with my system is health monitoring all my other machines.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So there's software called Zabbix, Z-A-B-B-I-X.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: And it just basically automatically prowls through your network and gets everything to talk to each other.

And everything reports back its own health status.

RON: Yeah, I've got that on my camera system at work.

Every morning I get an email that says, you know, which cameras are in trouble.

DAVE: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

RON: So I understand that.

DAVE: Yeah, so if I have one of these things go down, I'll get a Zabbix alert.

Say, hey, your, your, media server is down.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So yeah, I showed you the case.

I showed you how to cool them.

RON: Tell me I can make Lego cases out of them.

Yeah, I'm in.

DAVE: Yeah, any questions?

RON: No, I mean, I just like the fact that it's portable.

I mean, because if something was to go down, you still need to be entertained.

RON: Right.

So why not watch the movies?

Watch the Godfather on loop.

DAVE: There you go.

RON: Yeah, and maybe we even act it out sometime.

We've watched it so many times.

DAVE: I do know all the words.

RON: Do you?

I've probably only seen the Godfather once or twice.

DAVE: Oh my God.

RON: Yeah.

No, my wife's a big fan of it too, but I don't know.

I'm more of a comedy movie guy.

I like the raw cheap comedies, the dumb comedies.

No funny comedies though.

DAVE: Airplane!?

RON: Oh, Airplane!.

Oh, man, that's like, that's like the best one.

DAVE: Of course.

You ever see Top Secret?

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: That's a classic.

RON: Was it Rick Moranis in that?

DAVE: No, no, no, no.

Val Kilmer.

RON: Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

I remember the movie post because it had an envelope that said Top Secret on it.

I remember it, but yeah.

DAVE: That's like the lesser known Zucker movie, Top Secret.

RON: Yeah, no, Airplane! was, oh, just amazing movie.

I mean, I also had Leslie Nielsen, young Leslie Nielsen,

and a young Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

DAVE: Yeah, the pilot.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: But yeah, so, you know, start looking into replacing

your internet of things shit with these things.

If you have any kind of service that you're trying to run,

like if you want to run a web server, if you want to get onto I2P, which you should,

right, instead of putting these on your desktop,

you know, just grab one of these things, 35 bucks,

and just put it in a corner somewhere and let it run on its own, right?

Because then you don't have to worry, oh, did my desktop go down?

Do I got to update windows?

Do I got to do this?

That? No, just do your desktop as you do it,

and this thing will be running for you in the background.

RON: Yeah, and it's actually kind of cool because I mean, right now,

streaming came online, so I take out the cable companies,

cable companies lost business, they raised their rates, which, okay?

And then now the streaming companies are like, hey, we can make more money,

and they're raising their rates, and they're putting other stuff behind paywalls.

So if you have a way to get around all that.

DAVE: Well, I mean, I will say one thing, like you should pay for your movies and music.

RON: Oh, no, you can pay for them, of course, but once you own them,

DAVE: yes, yes, RON: then you can watch them at your leisure.

DAVE: Yes, buy the physical copy.

RON: Because you would not want to steal anybody's content.

DAVE: Right, that's illegal and it's immoral, and you wouldn't download a car,

so don't download a movie.

RON: But I wouldn't make a car a 3D printer.

DAVE: Well, that's different.

RON: And I can-

DAVE: But you paid for it.

RON: Okay, as long as I paid for the plastic.

DAVE: Go get your Blu-ray copy of The Godfather, burn it onto your network

attached storage drive, get a jellyfin server, and then get some TV boxes with Kodi,

and stream The Godfather all you want.

RON: So if you buy a movie on Prime, can you put that movie on here?

DAVE: I don't know if they like you doing that, because you don't really buy the movie.

You're buying a license to watch the movie.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: You want physical copies.

And besides that, if you buy a movie on streaming,

right, they can change the movie.

I want to watch the original movie.

RON: Oh, they've edited it out for the new generation.

DAVE: Right, I mean, Blazing Saddle is another classic comedy.

There's scenes in that movie that aren't appropriate today,

that maybe Amazon would say, you know what, we're not going to let the viewer decide to watch these

scenes.

RON: Well, it's because they're smarter than we are, and they're being nice to us by telling us what to do.

DAVE: Well, but I want to watch the original.

So I get the Blu-ray copy, I burn it onto my NAS, and then I watch it at my leisure on my Kodi box.

RON: I believe there's still a few Simpsons episodes that will not ever be streamed.

DAVE: Oh, yeah, there was the World Trade Center episode.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: There's a Seinfeld episode that got banned.

RON: Really?

DAVE: Yeah, the second to last episode.

So you remember the last episode?

RON: That when the fat guy fell over, John Panera, John, it was a comedian.

He fell in the street and they were lying.

Or was that the actual?

No, no, that was the last episode.

DAVE: That was the last episode.

And they had the trial and all that?

RON: Right.

Yeah.

DAVE: No, no, the one before that was the Puerto Rican Day parade.

RON: Oh, yeah, I remember that one.

DAVE: Yeah, again, you got to get the Blu-ray.

RON: And Kramer wouldn't wear the pan or something?

DAVE: No, no, no, no, different one, different episode.

RON: Oh, different episode.

DAVE: Yeah, like you've never, you've probably never seen this episode.

Or maybe you saw it once if you watched it.

RON: Watch it live, yeah.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Okay, interesting.

It's just more government control people telling us what to do and how to do it.

DAVE: Amazon or whoever the fuck, right?

RON: They're all government contractors, aren't they?

DAVE: Yeah, I just want the Blu-ray, leave me alone, let me have my own.

RON: I will buy my own movies and I will download them and watch them when I want.

Actually, no, you could go to Goodwill now and get Blu-ray movies like a buck.

DAVE: Yes.

RON: So you could go spend a hundred bucks and get a hundred movies.

RON: Yep.

And then you know.

DAVE: Their selection is pretty shitty though.

RON: No, there's.

DAVE: Well, the one I checked, I went to the one on Tropicana, bad selection.

RON: So what is the one I did?

So there's a new one that opened up, Blue Diamond and Jones.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: Now you're going to say Jones doesn't go to Blue Diamond because it stops, but on the

other side of Blue Diamond, it's Jones.

DAVE: Okay, I'll check that out.

RON: So it's right, they've got, I believe they've got like an entire wall full of,

DAVE: yeah, RON: they may have sent all the DVDs to that, to that one.

There's a lot there.

So, so you won't have to go on torrents and steal.

DAVE: Well, I don't do that anyway.

RON: Yeah, what is that anyway?

DAVE: I don't have no idea.

RON: It's, it's something I heard, but I don't really know what they are.

DAVE: Well, torrents are how I get my Linux distributions.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: So like when you want to install Linux on one of these bad boys,

you got to go torrent yourself, the Ubuntu image or the Fedora image.

RON: Did we have the Linux conversation here or at the bar?

DAVE: I don't know.

RON: It's, it drives me crazy because people bitch about Microsoft and what a horrible

conglomerate they are and how much they charge for everything,

but the same thing basically exists on Linux for free.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: And we won't use it.

DAVE: Well, so 20 years ago to install Linux, it was a huge pain in the ass and the regular user

wouldn't be able to do it.

They probably brick their machine, but now it's literally easier to put Linux on your machines.

RON: See, I was running Linux probably 2012, 2013, just because my son was in Linux.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: So he taught me.

So maybe it was hard, but he knew all the shortcuts.

DAVE: I mean, it's literally as easy now as, as put a USB in the drive, reboot and following instructions.

I mean, like there's no excuse to not be on Linux.

Right.

Like I know it's, you don't want to take the time, but look, just put a day on your calendar and say

install Linux.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: And then now it's in your schedule and you come across it and say, okay, time to install Linux.

You know, like it's, it's not that hard.

You can back up all your data on reputable cloud, like, like Proton Drive.

Don't use Google.

Dropbox is okay.

Or I mean, you can just put it on physical media and just do it the old fashioned way.

RON: You know what?

I have another laptop I'll bring it maybe, maybe not next week.

In a couple of weeks, we'll do what and put Linux on it.

Live because that is important to me.

I mean, I'm not a techie guy, but Linux is really cool and there's a lot of stuff and it's free.

And you're not feeding Microsoft anymore.

DAVE: Right.

Because they got way too much.

DAVE: And they have ads on the start bar now.

RON: Oh, really?

DAVE: Yes.

You click the start button and there's, you get fucking ads.

I already paid you your stupid asses for the software and you're giving me ads.

Come on.

RON: Oh, so greedy.

All right.

Anything else in the tech world?

DAVE: I mean, yeah, not unless you got questions.

RON: No, I didn't understand half the word you said.

DAVE: Well, actually, why don't we do this week's Monero giveaway and then you can,

okay, because I want to like mix it up so people can listen.

RON: You never know where the Monero giveaway is going to be.

DAVE: So I was thinking, I know I mentioned, I messaged you idea, but I was thinking, let's actually do both.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So let's give 0.01 for mine and then 0.01 for yours.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So in a second, Ron's going to talk about like various recipes for tinctures and or...

RON: Yeah, but maybe something to grow in your garden.

DAVE: Okay.

RON: And take that.

DAVE: Okay.

Ingredients to grow.

So for his challenge, we want you to come in the chat room and give us your best recipe

for a tonic, a tincture, an elixir.

What's another good word?

RON: I mean, because we have to watch the word, I think tincture is probably our best.

DAVE: Tincture.

Okay.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: So give us your best recipe and we'll vote on it.

And whoever wins gets 0.01 Monero.

And then for my challenge, give us your best idea of what you should put on a single board PC.

RON: Oh, there you go.

DAVE: And then we'll give you another 0.01 Monero for that.

RON: Does porn count?

DAVE: Like I said, we vote on the best idea.

Whatever your idea is put in the chat room.

We'll vote on it.

Winner gets 0.01 Monero.

RON: There you go.

So what I'm going to talk about is basically when you're setting up your garden,

you want to grow certain things because there are herbs out there that will

help you make a tincture or help you just help your body along if you're having some bad days.

Whether you've been sick or being depressed or be like, like St. John's Wort,

you can grow that and it has healing properties about making it a little bit happier.

So maybe, you know, if the Prozac is stuck in the Red Sea or the Red Channel,

we just can't get it from China anymore, maybe there's stuff that you can do at home,

at least to help out.

And then you got the placebo effect as well.

You never know.

If you think it's going to be good for you, it's going to be good for you.

But anything that I recommend, it's not going to be bad for you.

It may not work for your intended purpose.

And then one thing I use, I tell people, eat raw honey, eat raw honey,

whether you're sick, whether you're not sick.

And if it has no effect on you.

DAVE: So have you ever done Royal Jelly?

RON: Yes.

DAVE: Where do you get that around here?

RON: There's a beekeeper.

Okay.

So unfortunately, the opposite, no to go is someone,

farmers market on Saturdays.

DAVE: Because I want to try that stuff.

RON: But that guy is up in Centennial Hills.

Okay.

He's got a bee farm up there.

He's a little different kind of guy.

But I mean, he's a beekeeper.

So we'll give him that.

But they also have cattle up there as well.

So you got also buy some fresh meat, which I highly, highly recommend.

Find a source of meat that's not from the government.

No, there's some weird shit going on there.

I'll get into that some other time.

But I had to, like, like what I normally do, I have notes,

but I've been leaving them at work lately because I've got a lot of stuff going on at work.

Oh, I going to email them, but I ran out of time and then ship windows and plumbing problems

and blah, blah, blah.

And that's what I'm going to do.

But this stuff is actually comes easy to me.

But I got, I brought it up on my screen here so I can talk about some stuff that I don't do.

Basically, my go-to stuff is it's white whiskey.

It's a little confusing.

It's basically unaged whiskey.

So it's technically clear, not white.

It confuses people.

I don't know why.

It's it's the higher proof, the better.

There's a few companies that make like 120 proof, which if you drink it,

you're going to burn all your taste buds.

But the next sip is going to taste really good.

But I use that some raw honey, some cayenne pepper, some lemon juice.

I personally have not had pharmaceutical medication in my body over 20 years.

And that little tincture is one reason, one reason why, because I'll go to that if I'm sick.

And I'm pretty vocal about it.

So the funny story was I was at work one day and I had what appeared to be pink eye.

I don't know if it was pink eye.

I don't go to the doctor and they actually sent me home from work and they said,

what are you going to do?

Take honey?

I go, I don't know.

Let me find out.

I did some research and unfortunately I did this when I was home alone.

It's kind of pissed me off.

I should have recorded it.

Whether I had pink eye or not, I don't know.

I had an eye that was inflamed, red, water pouring out of it.

So I got home, I boiled some water, I then stuck that water in the freezer

to cool it down at room temperature.

Because the one thing about honey, you cannot inject it and put it in anything

that's 180 degrees or more because you pasteurize it and that kills its healing properties.

So I brought the water down to a drinkable temperature and I started my honey and I just,

I started to, I'd liquefied that as best I could.

I wouldn't have gotten eye dropper, dropped three drops in my eye and five minutes later,

that shit was gone.

Now, did I have pink eye?

I don't know, but I did have something going on.

But keep in mind, honey is anti-inflammatory.

It's anti-bacterial or it has those properties in the honey.

And it's good.

If you're a drinker, it helps detoxify your liver.

So it'll help that as well.

So there is a lot of things you can do with honey and that's one main thing that I implore

everyone to stock up on.

Get it from a reputable source.

There is raw honey coming from China.

So be careful about that.

But if you get a beekeeper in the area, that's one of the best things to have in your kitchen.

And it lasts forever.

They actually found a sunken ship with a sealed jar of honey in it.

DAVE: We talked about that.

RON: Did we?

Yeah, I don't remember what I talk about.

I get blown and talking.

Who knows?

But the point is, it lasts forever and there's a lot of healing properties.

But so that's what I kind of go to.

I'll do some cumin and stuff like that.

I'll do cayenne peppers, another one that I'm huge on.

Cinnamon, I do that a lot.

But I just kind of want to go over some of the stuff that I don't typically know about.

So I just brought up three different topics.

Anti-bacterial herbs.

I'm going to fight through all the ads.

Garlic.

Now garlic, I eat garlic a lot.

I guess with garlic in my garden, I'm so happy.

DAVE: When I read a recipe that says, use two cloves of garlic, I'm like, that's two heads, right?

RON: Yeah.

Yeah, you can't have enough garlic.

And then if you roast the garlic, DAVE: oh my God.

I found some black garlic.

RON: Oh, wow.

DAVE: So good.

RON: Yeah, no, so garlic is good.

They mentioned honey, which we kind of already discussed.

Ginger.

Ginger is, and it's actually not a bad thing to put in any meal.

Just kind of the best way to peel ginger is with a spoon.

I don't know if you know that.

You just kind of chop up the spoon.

DAVE: So actually, I get seasick when I play certain video games.

It's kind of reverse seasickness because you're seeing motion, but you're not feeling it.

So your brain is like, what the fuck are you doing?

And it causes seasickness.

And if you eat ginger, gone.

RON: Really?

It calms your stomach down.

All right.

So there's a lot of stuff out there that's anti-bacterial.

I just kind of do your research, see what you like best, kind of go that route with it.

And then the other ones are anti-inflammatory foods.

And this is also, if you go in your garden, you can incorporate it into your meal.

You can do it when you get sick, but whatever makes you feel the best.

But none of this stuff is going to hurt you.

But big farmer can't say that.

So we talked about anti-inflammatory foods.

Mushrooms is on this list.

DAVE: Mushrooms.

RON: And mushrooms, they actually, so I try growing mushrooms a couple of years ago in a stump.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: And they, it was plugged and everything.

I don't know if I didn't want to.

DAVE: I don't know if you know this, but there's a guy here in town that sells spores for all various types of mushrooms.

And you know, I'm sure you've heard of magic mushrooms, right?

RON: Yes.

DAVE: Now magic mushrooms are illegal because they're scary and dangerous.

RON: They're illegal.

DAVE: Yeah.

But spores for magic mushrooms are not illegal.

RON: Can you micro dose for the spores?

You gotta grow.

DAVE: No, you have to grow them.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And then it's legal to possess them.

Well, it's not, I think it's not legal to sell them.

RON: Actually, see they're Oregon or Colorado or both of them are legalized in medicinal mushrooms.

DAVE: I think Nevada was talking about it too.

RON: They should.

DAVE: But, but yeah, so like I can, I can put you in touch with this guy in town.

RON: I'll probably do that because I would like to talk to him.

DAVE: I'll put his details on our page.

Because yeah, he's, he's always looking for a new business.

RON: Awesome.

DAVE: Shout out Mike.

RON: So other stuff that's anti-inflammatory, berries, which are, you know, broccoli,

you know, you know, broccoli, I believe you lose its healing properties if you steam it.

Well, so broccoli and actually broccoli, did you know is the same species as cauliflower,

Brussels sprouts, cabbage?

RON: It's a genetically modified, yeah.

DAVE: Well, so they're not genetically modified, but they're traditionally modified through,

you know, selection.

RON: Huh.

DAVE: Artificial selection.

RON: Now, what are you about bananas, genetically modified?

DAVE: Yes.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: Bananas actually can't live on their own.

RON: Yes.

Somebody, somebody said, if we ever lost all bananas, we can never get them back.

DAVE: Right.

Well, that's, that's the common one you see in the grocery store.

There are other species out there that we could, you know, make again, but it would take a lot of work.

But, but with broccoli, I was going to mention the cooking.

As long as you don't overcook.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: So what you want to do is, no matter how you're cooking, the broccoli should get really bright

green.

RON: Yes.

DAVE: And then you're done.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: And then put it into ice cold water right away.

RON: Stop the cooking.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Yeah.

Cause yeah, cause when you pull something off of heat, it will continue like when I cook my steaks.

I pull it off at a certain time because it's going to rise in temperature while it sits there.

Well, while it rests.

So you got to pay attention to that kind of stuff.

DAVE: Yeah.

With broccoli or any green vegetable, once it's bright green, you're done.

Get it out of there.

And any further than that, you're getting rid of the nutrients and it's going to taste like shit.

So broccoli, man.

RON: What do you mean?

DAVE: Look, if you were a kid growing up and you hated broccoli, it's because your parents overcooked it.

RON: Oh, DAVE: 100% of the time.

RON: Oh, you're a broccoli fan.

DAVE: Oh, broccoli is great.

Brussels sprouts.

I love that stuff.

RON: Yeah.

Some of the other anti-inflammatory stuff are grapes, tomatoes and cherries, which I mean,

it's all good stuff and it will help.

The one I left for last was olive oil.

Now, true olive oil is the most anti-inflammatory food you'll find on the shelf.

So that's important to have that around.

I don't know about cooking.

Again, it may change.

You may lose this medical healing at a certain temperature that I don't know because I always

tend to go to my honey and not my olive oil.

DAVE: Yeah.

But I would suggest that you avoid cooking with good olive oil entirely.

Only eat it raw, like salad dressing.

RON: Oh, okay.

DAVE: But if you're going to cook, use a crappy quality olive oil or actually avoid olive oil.

When I cook with olive oil, it's only in the oven.

So if I'm roasting, if I'm going on the pan, I'm using butter or lard or beef tallow.

RON: Oh, lard.

Okay, so you're a lard fan.

DAVE: Oh, yeah.

RON: Did you know about the Smear campaign that was done on lard?

DAVE: Of course.

RON: It's insane.

RON: Lard is actually a better cooking product than...

DAVE: I make my own.

So I will buy some from the store.

I just always have some.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: But whenever I cook and I don't use the fat, I keep that.

RON: Really?

DAVE: Put it in the freezer.

RON: Okay.

DAVE: When you have a bag full, render it yourself.

It's way better.

RON: I will look into that because I never try...

See, you learn stuff from everybody.

So, yeah, so that's just kind of stuff.

When you're planning your garden, get this stuff in there.

You know, or get a little greenhouse or...

I mean, don't buy a greenhouse window.

Those things are like $1,200.

I'm actually going to build my own little greenhouse

on the side of my house and I'll just open my kitchen window

and reach into it.

It's like a hillbilly thing, but...

DAVE: What about like herbs?

Do you have any herbs?

RON: Well, yeah, but that's...

Well, that was kind of like...

That was probably more back in the...

Well, but you...

DAVE: So like cilantro, parsley, that kind of stuff.

RON: Yeah, no, all that stuff is good.

I'm just trying to break it down to where the healing properties are.

But yes, basil, I mean, all that stuff.

There is good healing properties.

Is it anything that's green?

Just eating vegetables alone is actually good for your body.

And if you don't like vegetables,

because you don't want to buy them at the store,

they're a different vegetable at home.

DAVE: Right.

RON: They taste better.

They're juicier.

They're just much better for you.

But the point, you know, you know your ailments

and you kind of know what you're going to need.

So maybe start planning stuff.

Kind of do some research, find out what's good for you.

DAVE: Well, it's another thing you want to do.

When you're seed shopping, get the heirloom stuff.

RON: Oh, heirloom tomatoes.

Oh my God.

I guess I guess I'm growing from seed right now.

DAVE: But yeah, so if you buy just regular seeds,

you're going to get similar to the grocery store.

heirlooms are not bred to look clean.

They're going to be bumpy.

They're going to be ugly.

But they're going to taste so much better.

RON: Yeah, you cannot be the heirloom tomato.

Dear God.

And something else that I do,

everybody thinks I'm crazy on this one,

but a few people have called me out on it

and they've done it and they've agreed.

So this is not really for your garden,

but I'm sure everyone's got a bar soap around the house.

You know, I always tend to go like ivory,

ivory unscented bar soap.

You don't really want to scent, but you can.

DAVE: You know where that stuff comes from?

The scents?

RON: Where?

DAVE: From a beaver's anus.

RON: Really?

Beaver's anus?

DAVE: Yeah, like artificial flavors and scents.

RON: I've actually heard that before.

DAVE: Come from a beaver's anus.

RON: They have that many different flavors in their anus?

DAVE: Well, you treat it different ways.

RON: You pull it, you extract the good flavors out of the beaver's anus.

Beaver and anus is a joke there,

but I'm going to stay away from that one.

But what I do is if I have like a tooth infection,

or if I've got that, you know, some pus built up,

if you brush your teeth with soap,

it actually kills the infection.

It tastes like shit, but it, you will,

your mouth will feel cleaner than it's ever felt before,

and it will kill that infection.

DAVE: Nice.

RON: I've been, you know, because for some reason,

if I ever get like an infected tooth,

it's always around a holiday,

so I can't get to the dentist.

So I was researching a bunch of different stuff

this was years ago, and I'd come across,

well, they say garlic is the same,

that you can kind of pack your garlic in there.

But honestly, I haven't found anything more fast acting

than antibacterial, no, I'm sorry,

than bar soap, unscented bar soap.

DAVE: Interesting.

RON: I just kind of get it wet,

just rub a toothbrush across it,

and just go to work on it.

And then I'll get some of the soapy suds

and let it sit where the pain is,

because your cheeks and your gums

actually will get stuff into your bloodstream

quicker than any other part of your body.

So that's, it's good to let it sit there.

And the pain does go away fairly quickly.

So, and I've had people test me on it,

and they've all came back and said it worked.

And it's always worked for me.

So there are some crazy stuff out there that, you know,

it's like, oh, you're nuts for doing that.

Well, try it.

May not be bad.

Some guy was the first one to crack open an oyster and goes,

I'm gonna eat this.

I don't know who he was, but I'm glad he did,

because I love my oysters.

DAVE: Oysters are great.

RON: Yeah, I know, aren't they?

But around here, it's just like, I don't know.

DAVE: No, no, we have some of the best seafood in the country.

RON: Well, yeah, yes.

DAVE: Including oysters.

RON: Yeah, all seafoods frozen anyway,

because when they, on the boat.

DAVE: Not for here.

RON: Well, no, they have to freeze it on the boat

when they're not catching it.

No, they throw it in the ice chest.

DAVE: I don't know if they do that with oysters.

Because oysters are alive.

RON: Yeah, so yeah, you're right.

The salt, they probably, so good salt water,

because that's the thing about oyster.

If it's closed, it's good.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: If it's open, it's dead.

Yep.

And I've never found a pearl.

Is that, is that a?

DAVE: I have.

RON: Seriously, is that a joke?

DAVE: I mean, it wasn't usable.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: It was a gritty piece of shit, but it was a pearl.

I mean, yeah.

RON: Really?

Oh, that's really kind of cool.

So.

DAVE: I threw it away, it was junk.

RON: Yeah, exactly.

Good, you should have took it to a Rick at Pawn Stars.

DAVE: They wouldn't give me a penny for it.

RON: Ha, ha, ha.

Well, best I can do for you.

Actually, I know you watched the show.

I see the memes.

The best I can do.

So yeah, so we hear, you know, like,

I've got a family member here as asthma.

So I grow up certain herbs to help with asthma.

Does, does, do they take medication?

Yeah, they do.

And I'm not trying to replace medication.

I'm just saying this stuff here.

If there is a problem where you can't get your medication.

So, and take it as a supplement to your medication.

It's also a good thing.

It's, it's one of those things that it's,

it's not going to hurt you people.

DAVE: Right.

RON: Eat your greens.

You know, because now they got that powder stuff.

You just mix it in your water.

It's, oh, chalky.

Yeah, just eat the freaking vegetables.

They're good.

DAVE: Yeah.

And so the other thing, when you actually eat the vegetables,

right, your, your body has to do work to break those things down.

RON: Yep.

DAVE: And that's burning calories.

RON: Yep.

DAVE: So if you just drink the nutrients straight,

like, okay, maybe you'll get the nutrients,

but you're, you're going to gain weight because you're not working

to burn those calories.

RON: Same with hot peppers.

Hot peppers make your body burn more calories

because they're putting the fire out for hot peppers.

And then the next day, you also got your calories being burned.

DAVE: Yeah.

RON: Trying to cool something else down.

Woo.

But I love my hot peppers.

Actually, dude, I've got so many hot peppers growing in the garden.

DAVE: Nice.

RON: Because I, I went from seed with a lot of my stuff.

So I've got, I've got a ton of stuff.

Once I, once I get my soil where I want it,

or soil around here, so nutrients negative.

Yeah.

DAVE: But the hot peppers like that stuff.

RON: Yeah.

Hot peppers will grow.

Roses grow in this town like crazy, but they're deep rooted.

So they get the water from the ground.

Yeah.

So that's kind of the stuff I just wanted to kind of hit on a few things,

but it's good.

It's, it's more tailored to what you want.

The information is out there to kind of, you know,

but don't be afraid to try something because again, it's, it's a vegetable or it's a fruit

or it's honey.

Try different stuff and see what makes you feel better.

DAVE: And come ask in our chat room.

RON: Yeah.

DAVE: See what other people are doing.

RON: Yeah.

I mean, we get a chat going.

We go help each other out.

Because that's where we are.

We are a community and without, because not any one of us knows everything.

So it's, it's helped to kind of talk about stuff because I've got my own things that I,

I tend to favor.

But I also leave a lot of stuff out because what I use works.

When it does it, I'll try, I'll try new stuff or somebody tells me something.

I'll give it a shot because it can't hurt.

So yeah, I think that's kind of what I wanted to talk about now for helping your body heal.

Because guys, seriously, I mean, I know we kind of joke around a bit, but all of our,

what's it, what's it made in China now that all the,

antibiotics are made in China.

And I believe painkillers are made in India.

So we've kind of spread out ourself where we're not really making our own medicine here even.

And if Iran does what it's saying, and he shuts down that, was it the Red Sea,

the entrance to the Red Sea?

There's a, there's an area that they shut down, which they've done in the past.

It can truly affect our, our goods and our goods coming here.

And they're already saying there is a shortage of some pharmaceutical medication.

So start looking now, you know, start getting a buildup of tolerance for it.

Because, you know, there's a lot of stuff that you can take and it will get rid of the problem

without having to ingest certain stuff in your body that we can't get right now because there's

a shortage on it.

Because they don't want to put it down any other way because I get kicked off

and have these fucking channels were on.

DAVE: Fine by me, we're on the dark web.

RON: Yeah, but I mean, we got, that's a small group out there.

DAVE: Hey, we're trying to get everybody on there.

RON: Again, I guess you, if you add up all of our listeners,

it's not even 1% we're on the dark web.

So I guess I'll take it if we get it.

DAVE: Speaking of dark webs, next week I'm going to talk about dark markets.

RON: Oh, that'll be interesting.

DAVE: So we've talked about Tor and I2P, we've talked about Monero.

Now, what are you going to do with this stuff?

Right?

Well, one of the things you want to do is go on dark markets.

So this is where, you know, you can buy and sell goods and services

in the privacy of your home without anybody spying on you.

Now, most of the stuff there is legal.

So you should stick to those sections.

Don't buy the illegal stuff.

RON: No, never.

DAVE: But, you know, browse around and maybe report them to your local FBI agent.

But good luck because they're on the dark web.

RON: They're on there with you, don't worry about it.

DAVE: They're anonymous.

But yeah, I'm going to talk about how to keep your anonymity

while buying and selling on the dark web.

RON: So is it, I mean, do you recommend crypto only on the dark web?

DAVE: But you have no choice.

RON: Okay.

Okay, yeah.

So put your credit card number on the dark web.

Probably not a good thing.

DAVE: Nope.

RON: Oh, and the three digit code on back.

Matter of fact, let me just take a picture of it.

So I get the number right.

Yeah, don't fall for that stuff, people.

There are some scrupulous people out there.

We were already with them past the hour, so that's good.

So I think we'll shut this down for the evening.

We'll see you guys.

Well, we're going to see each other next Thursday.

We'll see you guys when you're watching.

DAVE: Get your free Monero.

RON: Yep.

Get some free money from us.

Leave some comments.

Let's get some chats going.

And, you know, let's see if we can get a community going.

All right, people.

Have a good day and be nice.

I guess I'm looking for a catchphrase for the end of it yet.

I haven't got that catchphrase down yet because

it's not everybody's just fuck off everybody.

It's not a good catchphrase.

So one of these days I'll come up with something good.

Actually start a chat.

What would you like me to say at the end of the show?

I'll be more than glad to say anything,

and I won't be in charge of it.

Except I will not make derogatory comments about myself or Dave.

Well, Dave, maybe a little bit if they're funny.

All right, people.

Have a good one.

Enjoy the world.