RON: Hi, this is Ron Morgan and DAVE: Dave Havlicek.
RON: We're here with Canary in the Cage and it's our political podcast with a lot of humor
in it.
Hopefully you find it funny.
So Dave, you're not a fan of, Elon Musk, are you?
DAVE: Not really.
I mean, he's okay.
RON: Yeah, I've kind of come over to your side because the whole Don Lemon thing.
DAVE: Why is that?
RON: Well, he hired the guy to do the show for him and fired him.
DAVE: And by the way, we have more shows than Don Lemon.
RON: Yes, we do.
I noticed that.
But he fired him after the first show.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: It was more about his salary package.
DAVE: Oh, yeah?
RON: Well, because part of the salary package was he wanted a Tesla truck and he wanted
to go to space.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: This is my problem.
Elon Musk, he missed a golden opportunity.
DAVE: To send Don Lemon.
RON: Ship that guy, shove that son of a bitch to a missile and shoot him into space.
DAVE: A couple million bucks.
RON: If he didn't clarify how he goes to space, why not shoot him on a missile?
I mean, I would have watched it.
DAVE: I would have given that.
I would definitely watch that episode of the Don Lemon show.
RON: Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's a thumbs up for sure.
DAVE: We got to get rid of that guy.
RON: You can get rid of Don Lemon.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Don Lemon's definitely not my fave.
So what the hell's going on this week?
DAVE: I mean, there was one story that dominated everything.
The whole cargo ship destroyed the Francis Scott Key Bridge soon to be renamed.
RON: Oh, they're going to rename it?
DAVE: Oh, yeah.
It's going to be the George Floyd Memorial Bridge.
RON: See, I told you all there's humor in this show.
Yeah.
RON: No, I, you know, accident on purpose.
I don't fucking know yet.
DAVE: What seems to me is that someone did something real fucking stupid and they're trying to
cover it up.
RON: Oh, DAVE: So that's what I think.
RON: So some really bad people did some really bad things.
DAVE: No, no, no.
I mean, like the guy was sleeping.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: And then there was a power outage and then it woke him up and then he's like, oh, fuck,
what do I do?
And then, you know, just slammed on something or other and then.
RON: Well, I did a deep dive on this because I wanted to, because you know me, I mean, I
always tend to my conspiracies.
So when you're in the harbor, so the cargo ship was leaving the harbor, loaded up.
And because it's in, it was in the harbor, it had local masters.
I could pair all the masters are the captains.
So there was, I believe there was two local masters on there with the master.
DAVE: Right.
RON: Can we say that anymore?
The master?
DAVE: I don't know.
We're saying it anyway.
RON: All right.
What do we care?
We say a lot. DAVE: I mean we said "retard" last week
and they didn't kick us off.
So RON: I don't remember.
Was I referring to myself?
DAVE: No.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Talking about.
RON: Oh, that's okay.
DAVE: I forgot.
RON: Yeah.
I tend to do that as well.
So no, it was, we had the, so there was two local guys.
I believe it's two local guys is what I've heard, but you never know what you hear anymore.
And then there's the thing.
Oh, the, the, the actual master is Ukrainian, but the AP news said that's that's fake news.
Do we believe AP?
DAVE: I have no idea.
What I heard today is that there's two minutes missing from the black box.
RON: Yes.
The most critical minutes are missing, DAVE: But, but the day it happened like two hours afterwards.
It's like, Oh no, I wasn't, it wasn't terrorism.
Wasn't attack.
Wasn't anything.
RON: Right.
While I'm sleeping, a bridge comes down and then Biden's like, uh, you know, it's, uh,
it's not terrorism.
Um, cause he, you know, he traveled that bridge quite often.
DAVE: Yeah.
The train.
RON: Yeah.
On the train.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Which was never there.
The top of it, the side of it.
I didn't see train tracks.
DAVE: Well, he was actually the conductor too.
Did you know that?
RON: No, he said, yeah.
DAVE: And he drove an 18 wheeler.
Uh, I mean, the guy is like, he just done everything.
He's done everything.
RON: Speaking of Biden, did you see he was in Arizona and Nevada like a week ago?
DAVE: I think that was two weeks ago.
We talked about it a little bit.
Yeah.
RON: Well, yeah.
But in Arizona, I heard he said that he saved the country two trillion dollars, but in
Nevada, he said it was one trillion.
Do you think you lost that at the tables?
DAVE: That's very possible.
RON: Is there, is there a minimum?
Is there a maximum of a trillion dollars at a table?
You're gambling.
DAVE: I don't know of any games that'll take a trillion, but I mean, he's the president.
RON: So I would have to like split eights or something and just kind of fucked all that up.
DAVE: Oops.
RON: Yeah.
So, uh, what else do we got?
So I actually do want to address something.
I made a prediction last week.
It was about, um, that the house will be controlled by the Democrats, uh, by, sorry about that.
I don't have a cough button, um, by the election.
The day after I made that prediction, Gallagher out of Wisconsin said he was leaving.
DAVE: Yeah.
We have a one day delay from uploads.
RON: Yeah.
I know.
I was a little pissed about that because I'm like, son of a bitch.
I said that last night.
So as everyone knows, going on record right now, DAVE: Thursday, RON: we record Thursday nights in
my garage or I'm sorry, in my podcast studio.
Um, yeah.
So I kind of forgot where I was going with that, but I'll be in DAVE: the prediction.
RON: Yeah.
So my prediction was again, like the house will be controlled by Democrats.
So to back this up now, I found out some pretty interesting and that is in the state of Wisconsin,
they have a law about replacing a house representative or I'm sorry, a member of Congress.
So if the, if the guy resigns prior to the second Tuesday of April, he gets replaced.
If he, if he leaves after the second Tuesday in April, he doesn't get replaced until November.
So he may, if he's not leaving until April, like 15th or 20th or something.
So he set it up so he can't be replaced.
DAVE: Huh.
So that's good?
RON: Well, I mean, it's, it's just, it just means the Republicans are going to lose the house.
I mean, they're, they're, they're okay.
DAVE: So, but if he were to be replaced, wouldn't, don't they have a Democrat governor?
RON: Um, DAVE: r do you have to replace by same party or?
RON: I don't know.
I was kind of, I was trying to find that out and I really don't know, but I think the governor
can do anybody he wants.
DAVE: Yeah.
Um, is there governor Democrat, right?
RON: Wisconsin?
They've gone back and forth with Republican and Democrat governors, you know, because
I mean, it's, you know, it's a dairy state.
DAVE: Yeah.
But you're fucking cheeseheads.
RON: Yeah.
But I will say cheese curds are awesome.
So if there's a key cheese curd sponsor out there, give DAVE: Culver's, give us a call.
RON: Oh, culvers.
Holy Jesus.
The butter burgers.
DAVE: Uh, let's see.
Tony Evers is.
RON: We are currently looking up if the governor of Wisconsin is, is a red or a blue.
DAVE: Come on, Wikipedia.
RON: Oh, you trust Wikipedia?
DAVE: Well, when you're telling me if there's a Democrat or a Republican.
RON: Yeah, I know.
That's a pretty easy fact to, uh, DAVE: It looks like he's a Democrat.
RON: Yeah, he looks like a Democrat.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I mean, he could replace some, but this is what's weird.
I mean, it's why, why wait till he can't be replaced?
You know, I don't know.
I mean, it's, it's a weird theory.
Um, I'm working on it.
DAVE: If the governor does it, then, then that makes sense because he's preventing the governor
from replacing him with a Democrat.
RON: Oh, so you're thinking a little deeper into this than I am.
DAVE: I mean, that's, that's why you would do that, right?
RON: True.
DAVE: Because if you had a Republican governor, then you would, you would quit now.
RON: Yeah, but why quit with such a narrow margin?
DAVE: I don't know who the hell knows.
RON: I don't know.
DAVE: I just maybe like they blackmailed him with his Epstein Island.
RON: That's what I think.
I think they walked up to him and said, here's a file.
Do you want this go public or not?
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: And he's like, no, I don't want to go public because I like diddle and kids.
DAVE: Well, that's why you should vote for me because I have never been Epstein Island.
I don't talk to any people.
RON: You've been at P Diddys or P Diddler.
DAVE: P Diddler?
No, I haven't been to his house either.
RON: I haven't been to his house.
You know, there's Usher.
You know Usher is?
DAVE: I know the name.
I don't follow that.
RON: I thought he was a rapper.
Somebody at work told me
He was an R&B.
I don't know what the difference is, but he was doing an interview on Howard Stern back
in the nineties and he's like, yeah, I was hanging out with P Diddy.
I went to the P Diddys training camp and I wish we could show videos on this.
I gotta figure that out so we can show videos.
But he's like, oh, yeah, it was a lot of fun for a 14 or 15 year old to be at that island
or to be at that house.
He didn't say they were having sex with people, but he alluded to it.
So, but now is P Diddler, is he in the country or is he out of country?
DAVE: I thought he left.
I thought he got on his plane and flew away.
RON: So I had heard that the Homeland Security caught him at the airport, let his plane
take off, but he's still here.
Not arrested yet.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: But that kind of goes because they raided his compound.
It's called a compound and they don't, they're gathering information.
They didn't want to make the arrest yet.
So he might still be in the country.
Who knows?
But my question is, why is that plane finding a country without extradition?
DAVE: Yeah, that's right.
I heard he's going to some island with no extradition law.
RON: Yeah.
But if he's here, then what was on that plane?
I mean, more kids.
Jesus Christ.
I'm going to go in.
Okay.
I'm going to go and make this claim right now.
The P. Did the P. Didler didn't kill himself because he had to piss off somebody.
DAVE: Can we make sure we get those cameras like, you know, audited and that the cameras are
working in the prison?
You know, no black box failures, no camera.
Like, why can't we do that?
RON: Well, you know, I mean, there's technical issues.
There's airs and you know, you know, DAVE: But they always happen at the right time.
RON: Well, I mean, you say right time.
I say just happens.
I mean, you never know.
DAVE: Look, I know.
I've I mean, the power goes out here maybe once a year and it's never been at a like
critical fucking moment when I needed that power.
Never.
RON: I'm sure quite a few listeners, wish our power would go out right about now.
But speaking of that.
DAVE: Oh yeah, we got a plan.
RON: We well, we are, I think maybe just maybe the only podcast that is working off of a
solar generator.
We are DAVE: Likely.
We are our...
Our footprint is small to entertain or harass you people that are listening to us.
I'm not sure yet.
The reviews haven't came in yet.
So I mean, then I think I mean, you got the P Diddler.
You've got that.
DAVE: Well, no one's no one's reporting on this.
RON: Oh, what's that?
DAVE: So the gold price is an all time high.
RON: What do you do?
You know why?
DAVE: Well, there's lots of reasons.
RON: Well, yeah.
But one of the so basically the Fed has came out and said we're going to make three more
rate cuts this year.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: But yet inflation is still going up.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: That's not how that works.
DAVE: I mean, I mean, the whole the whole gold market is run by the futures contracts, right?
RON: Right.
DAVE: And I think like 97% of all gold trading is just on paper.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: So so you can essentially just sell gold that you don't have just lower the cause of price
to go down.
RON: Can I do that?
DAVE: You have to have like a broker's account.
I mean, it's not that hard to get a futures trading account on E trade.
RON: Huh.
DAVE: Like you you do some minor trading and then you'll just apply for it.
But minimum trades are like 15 grand or something.
RON: Oh, yeah.
I got that.
DAVE: But yeah, RON: In my couch cushions.
DAVE: There you go.
RON: But actually I'm looking more at silver right now.
DAVE: Well, silver hasn't gone anywhere.
I mean, like it's barely RON: it's actually down.
I mean, I think the highest has been in the mid 30s and now is DAVE: it was over 40 in the 1980.
RON: Oh, no shit.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: I didn't know that far back.
DAVE: Yep.
RON: No, because I mean, silver is is at a low right now and apparently they need them to
make the the electric cars.
DAVE: Oh, we need silver to make a whole shitload of stuff.
The thing is like there's it's much more efficient to extract nowadays.
So that's part of the reason why the price hasn't exploded.
But there's also paper manipulation.
I mean, they traded on the futures market as well.
But yeah, gold.
I mean, look at this plus 40 today.
RON: Oh, wow.
DAVE: 41.
I mean, you're never going to hear it on the news.
RON: Yeah, I mean, I mean, but the thing is what I like about silver is I could actually buy
a silver bar. DAVE: You can buy a gold bar.
RON: Yeah, I can't buy.
Really?
You can't sell my dog or something.
I'm not selling my dog, but I mean, I'm sure he's worth like, you know, 10, 20 grand.
He's a smart dog.
He's a good dog.
So yeah, so I don't know.
We'll have to see how that works out.
Oh, no, it's a pretty thin today because it wasn't kind of a shitty week for us until
until we find out for true because I've been talking to people at work about the the barge
and like, no, that was an accident.
And when it's talking about that for a second, so that barge was heading for the bridge and
was clear to go into that bridge.
DAVE: Right.
RON: He calls for tugboats.
He lost power and he dropped anchor.
DAVE: Right.
Allegedly.
RON: Well, the video shows the anchor change.
DAVE: I didn't look at it.
I didn't zoom.
RON: Yeah, there's I don't know if it was a government video or some red neck in a boat.
It just went up there.
Like I got a camera in a boat.
I'm going to go find that thing.
So if he would have maintained course, he would have missed that the pylon.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Is that the right word?
Pylon?
DAVE: Probably.
RON: Then he loses power, regains power, loses power and hits the bridge.
DAVE: Right.
RON: But after he lost power the second time, it made that turn.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: That weird turn.
Now, the two things could have happened on that turn.
One, the anchor could have caught and made that boat.
Can anchor do that?
Was that big of a boat?
DAVE: I have no idea, but it seems unlikely.
RON: I mean, I guess that is true.
DAVE: If the thing is big enough to take down the whole fucking bridge, it seems like an anchor
isn't going to cause a hard right turn.
RON: That is very true.
DAVE: I don't know.
I haven't done the math.
RON: They did say that, and this is more from a trusted news site that I listened to on
another podcast.
So you have the power steering and you have the non-power steering.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: So they obviously lost power steering at the power loss.
And they said that if you turn the wheel to the left, your boat goes to the left.
DAVE: Right.
RON: If you're using the non-powered one, if you turn your boat to the left, it goes to the
right.
So I mean, it could have been, you know, master or captain or what the fuck they call these
guys.
It could have been like he freaked out and...
DAVE: Right, and then turned the wrong way.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, and the way they're scrambling, it just smacks of CYA.
Like somebody did something stupid and nobody wants to take credibility or blame.
RON: Let's say it was a cyber attack because a couple of years ago, someone cyber attacked
a Navy vessel and crashed it into another boat.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: So they are hackable.
DAVE: Right.
RON: Who did it?
Russia, Ukraine?
DAVE: I mean...
RON: China, America?
DAVE: Well, that's why you need to do the investigation and you don't just come out on the news three
hours later and say it wasn't a terror attack.
I mean, you're telling me they pulled all the servers and looked at all the logs?
No, they take days to do shit like that.
RON: Well, no, the NTSB just showed up like two days after the accident.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: And they didn't interview the pilots until, or the masters until today.
But yeah, we know it wasn't a terrorist attack.
DAVE: You got to pull those servers.
You got to look at the logs.
I mean, it's going to take a long time to go through that shit.
RON: And so they can lie to us more effectively?
More effectively?
Because we're never going to know.
DAVE: I mean, the thing is, if you handed it to a tech guy making 100K a year, I mean, is
he really going to lie about it?
I don't know.
RON: All right.
So ding, ding, ding.
Another prediction.
If Joe Biden blames the price of stuff on their shelves on that, on that harbor being
closed, it was government cover up.
So our CIA or FBI or DAVE: He's promised to pay for it all.
RON: You know what?
What is the deal with that?
I don't know.
DAVE: I think I think either it's one of two things.
Either he went off script and just said that and everyone in the back room was like, what
the fuck, Joe?
What are you talking about?
Or they actually think it's going to buy them votes.
RON: Ah, well, you think Biden went off script?
He's actually pretty much on script.
DAVE: Well, he does sometimes.
RON: You see the video of him.
Oh, I'm not allowed any questions.
DAVE: Yeah.
I mean, if he if he has a fucking brain fart in the middle of the conference and he just
says what he says.
RON: Oh, did you speaking of him?
Did you hear the radio interview?
The the the press secretary?
What is it?
Girl with a dreadlocks?
DAVE: Oh, Kareen Jenn Pierre.
RON: She was doing a radio interview and I believe it was a radio station out of Atlanta and
they asked her, does Joe Biden have dementia?
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Um, she didn't like that question.
I wonder why she's like, DAVE: We pay her for it, right?
RON: I know.
Yeah.
She's a liar.
My opinion, I could be wrong.
DAVE: She's a bad liar.
She's a very bad liar.
RON: Our opinion, we could be wrong.
I'm just saying I'm going to get sued by some chick lesbian and dreadlocks.
Um, yeah.
So no, I just, yeah, I don't know.
I just, I tend to always just not trust the government, but what am I.., but I'm trying
to be part of the government.
So I'm really sure how that plays into things.
Um, I want to be like, I want to be the machine.
I would be part of the machines.
Like rage.
DAVE: You're just running for state assembly.
RON: I mean, yeah, I can so fuck things up.
DAVE: That's like the dog catcher.
RON: Oh, Mr. Congress member.
DAVE: That's right.
Yeah.
Go for the gold.
RON: Yeah.
It's like, I always kind of fall back to rage against the machine.
They haven't realized they are the machine.
You know, they were, they were, uh, requiring vaccinations and mask at their concerts.
I'm like, DAVE: Who would go see that?
I didn't like them when they were new.
RON: I mean, uh, yeah, they were entertaining.
I guess he put on a show, but yeah, I couldn't, uh, I can't believe how they, you know, that's
the problem with people.
We get old and we, we grow a conscience.
It's like the, I always, I was going by the hippies of the seventies.
They got old and they got, they, they, uh, they wanted to ban everything they did.
So we can't do the same shit they did.
I want to do drugs and have wild sex.
Wait, I'm married.
Uh, I want to do drugs.
I want to be a good husband.
Um, yeah.
My wife, hope she's not listening, but who knows?
I'm sure somebody will tell her, cause she won't watch this.
She's like, why would I watch your craziness?
DAVE: I'm not gonna watch that.
RON: So, oh God, what else?
Where are we at now?
We're like almost 20 minutes in.
So, uh, some decent crosstalk.
Anything else that's going on this week?
DAVE: Um, I mean, it doesn't seem like it.
It felt very slow.
RON: Yeah.
I guess it was.
DAVE: Um, no memes came out.
RON: Yeah.
I'm, yeah, I'm trying to think what else, uh, happened this week.
Um, I guess we're waiting for another congress member, another house member to resign, but
that we know that's coming.
Um, so, oh, so I guess, uh, there was the, uh, both our presidents were in New York today
and Biden was there and Trump was there.
Um, Biden was doing a fundraiser.
Apparently raised $25 million.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: And Trump was there.
There was an officer killed in New York.
Oh, DAVE: that's like every day, isn't it?
RON: Jesus Christ, you ain't kidding me.
Um, oh, actually, I wasn't going to say this, but one of my campaign promises are, it's
going to be, um, I'm going to go after the squatters rights.
DAVE: Yeah?
RON: Florida's kind of going after it right now.
DAVE: Well, so what's, I know we talked about it briefly, but what's the Nevada law currently?
RON: Um, it pretty much falls in line with the other states where if you, if you say you
have a lease on a house, it's your house.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: Um, but that, that's got to be tightened up.
That is ridiculous.
The fact that that even exists in our government, in our laws right now, that you can, you can
literally steal a house.
Um, yeah.
DAVE: I saw, I saw that DeSantis in Florida signed something.
Now, I didn't, I didn't read the bill or, or, I don't know.
I don't really know anything about it, but like everybody on Twitter was saying, well,
job done.
We're all, we're all good here.
And I'm like, you didn't, you have to wait like five years and see if it actually worked.
What are you talking about?
RON: Right.
You really can't judge a president until history, until he's in the history books.
Well yeah DeSantis basically signed a law saying that if you're accused of squatting
and you cannot prove that you have a legal lease on that house, they will arrest you.
DAVE: Well, so I mean, what does that mean?
I mean, how many people actually have copies of their leases on hand?
And does a cop know what a valid lease looks like?
RON: Well, no, but I mean, if you're, even if you don't have copies of the lease, I'm sure
you can call the landlord, which is usually the owner of the house.
DAVE: I guess, but you can also make a fake lease.
I mean, how many people had fake vaccine cards?
Not us.
We didn't do that.
RON: Oh God, no, I would never do it against a law.
DAVE: Yeah.
I mean, you can download a lease template on the internet for free and just fill it out.
RON: Yeah.
So, DAVE: I don't know.
It just seems like it, you're not going to fix this with government, right?
So whatever stupid law that the government makes, you might fix that problem.
But guess what?
You're going to find a new way to fuck with people.
RON: Well, let's let's think about that.
What has government done that's actually good?
DAVE: I can't name anything.
RON: I wish I if we had sound bites, I would do crickets right now.
DAVE: And I'll edit that in post.
RON: You know, it's funny is, is my wife and I were in a Home Depot once and there was crickets
in there.
They were crickets.
So I started telling jokes.
I would pause after every punch line.
DAVE: Is this thing on?
RON: Yeah.
So, yeah, I really think that's probably about it for the week of the news.
DAVE: Well, what do you have for us in the RON: You want me to do my, my, my part first?
So what I want to do, what I want to talk about today is homesteading.
Homesteading in a rural environment.
I don't want to say it's easy, but it's a lot easier to homestead in a rural environment
than it is in a city.
I kind of want to focus on the, on the city living because, you know, a lot of us live
in the city and we should have the right to homestead as well.
So we, you know, DAVE: Sounds like squatters, RON: Right?
No, no, no, no, no, no, homestead.
You really want to own the house really because I mean you want it because you're going to
invest money in this often.
Oh yeah.
So I'm, because I'm getting my garden going.
I wouldn't want to be, have to move out when my garden's growing.
DAVE: Right.
RON: Um, and by the way, if you are a gardener, uh, it's time to start roto-tilling.
Get your garden, get your garden turned over, get your compost in that garden.
Your plan's grown.
I highly recommend you do.
So oh, the, the nice thing about homesteading is it makes you more self-sufficient.
There's a, there's a saying out there that I like.
Um, he who controls the food controls you.
Um, so you definitely want to start at least getting some, some food growing and maybe some
small animals because you're in the city.
Um, you got chickens and, and you know, if you'd like chickens, great.
Don't forget about ducks.
Uh, ducks produce a, actually a better egg than chicken.
So I guess the, the chicken, uh, people outdone outdid the duck people with eggs because the,
the duck egg is bigger.
It's got better protein for you.
DAVE: I think chickens just make more of them.
Isn't that?
RON: Well, there's a weird difference because with chickens, they, they're, they're particular.
Ducks really aren't.
They're just shitting out eggs wherever they want.
So, um, they're easier, but like I said, the, the chicken mafia outdid the duck mafia and
that's why we eat chicken eggs for, um, I guess I could go to the George Carlin joke
about the income in an egg, but I don't want to steal his joke.
Um, so with, with homesteading, your, your goal is to produce your own electricity, have
your own water source, have your own, it would be natural gas or propane.
Um, you'd want to go to propane because the government controls the natural gas with the
propane, you got a little bit more flexibility.
You can, um, you have a propane tank and then you, you haven't filled up at your, your whims.
Um, and, and all your heaters, if they, if they burn gas, they can burn propane as well.
You got to do a little bit of work, switch out some orifices.
Um, I said orifice.
No, but, um, it's, it's something I think we should look into because there's, there's
two things that I kind of want to do at my house and that is I want a propane tank and
I want a water storage tank here.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: Um, I've been doing some research online and it's really hard to find the answer.
I don't know if Vegas will allow it or if any city allows it.
Um, but I mean, my argument is they keep saying Lake Mead's running out of water.
We're going to be, you know, water.
DAVE: Does it have to be visible?
RON: I mean, well, that's the thing.
I do.
I want to encourage people to break the law or do I want to encourage people to follow the law?
DAVE: I mean, laws just some shit on paper.
RON: I mean, laws, laws are manmade.
Um, but how, I mean, even in some cities, rain barrels are illegal.
DAVE: Right.
RON: You can't collect the rain.
DAVE: Right.
RON: Because it's owned.
It's.
No, in Colorado, it's serious.
They actually, they, they did adjust their law a couple of years ago when you can
start collecting rain, but prior to that change, you could not capture rainwater
because that water is owned because that water goes through, you know, goes to a
river and flows to a lake or a reservoir.
And, and you didn't want to steal the water from that guy.
I don't know.
DAVE: Fuck that guy, RON: I know who is that guy anyway.
DAVE: The God or whoever put the rain on my property.
RON: Right.
DAVE: That's my water.
RON: Well, I mean, you know, because you've got to realize you do have air rights,
mineral rights.
There's a lot of stuff you got to know if you have.
DAVE: I mean, the way I look at it is just don't get caught.
RON: If government can't see it, they can't find you for it, but do not break the law
people.
It's against law.
It's against the law to break the law.
Um, but yeah, no, I mean, because what I want to do is I want to get a water
storage tank.
So one, I get, I get good water.
I mean, Vegas water.
DAVE: It's terrible.
RON: Well, it's so it's chemically treated to be drinkable.
DAVE: I mean, it's, it's, it's full of sediments RON: And it's hard.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: So I mean, we're both from Chicago originally.
We come from the land of soft water.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Lake Michigan's got some really soft water.
Um, so yeah.
So what I'm, because what I'm thinking about is, um, well, we have a water
storage that you have, you have options.
One, you don't want to sit in the sun.
Two, water can get, um, can grow bacteria in it.
If you're storing it.
DAVE: Right.
RON: So you've got to kind of, kind of fix those problems as well.
Um, I don't know if the water you buy from a truck delivery, uh, if that water,
because, uh, water can grow Legionnaires disease after 30 days, uh, at a, the
heat between the temperature is like 70 and 90 degrees.
DAVE: Huh.
RON: So you want to make sure that you don't grow bacteria in your water, but in a
lot of ways it's just circulate that water.
So if you have a tank set up a circulation system, so it circulates your water
cause you want to have a good amount of water.
I mean, you know, three, 400 gallon tank, the best way to judge it is, um, one
person uses six gallons of water a day.
So that's kind of how you figure cause you know, flushing the toilet.
Although, I mean, to save, if you're, if you're paying for the water to be in a
tank, you could follow the law.
If it's yellow, yellow, let it mellow.
It was brown flush it down.
I mean, you could do that.
Or you could pee in the tank and then shit in a bowl and flush it with urine.
I mean, it'd stink, but I mean, at least you're, you're being, uh, you're
self-sufficient.
DAVE: Reminds me of a Kevin Costner movie.
RON: What's that DAVE: water world?
You didn't see that?
RON: It was like him and a kid walking around.
DAVE: Well, not walking.
They were in water because the whole planet had flooded and it was the
most expensive movie ever made and it bombed at the box office.
And I don't, I mean, RON: see now you just threw something else in my head.
DAVE: Now there's a famous scene where he pees in a, in a water filter and then drinks it.
RON: Huh.
DAVE: That, uh, you don't remember that?
RON: Well, I don't, I mean, I may have watched the movie, um, but the reality is you
can drink your pee through one cycle.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: So once you drink your pee, you can't drink your pee anymore.
DAVE: Right.
RON: Okay.
Um, I mean, DAVE: You only did it once.
RON: Yeah.
I mean, I've got a water filter right over there.
I'm really not sure I'd be pee in it.
DAVE: I mean, if you're dying.
RON: Ah, dying - drink pee.
I mean, I guess I could cool it down.
I wouldn't want to be warm pee.
DAVE: Put some ice in there, little umbrella.
RON: Yeah.
Little stir stick.
DAVE: A pee-na colada.
RON: I told you guys, it's humor in this show.
You just got to find it.
It's here.
Um, yeah, that's, uh, interesting.
I'm just gonna see if they have a filter that drinks pee because they do,
they do have a filter.
It's a little, you can carry it as a, as a hiker or camper.
You can put it right in the water and just drink right out of it.
It filters out all the nasty shit in the legs.
So maybe they've got one that you could attach to your penis medical term.
Penis is a medical term.
DAVE: Why would you do it that way though?
Why wouldn't you just like pee in the cup and then pour it into a filter?
RON: I mean, you could do it that way if you wanted.
DAVE: Of course I want to do it that way.
RON: Why?
DAVE: I don't want attaching things and like, I'm not into that stuff.
RON: I love attaching stuff to my penis.
DAVE: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
RON: If you attach a weight to your penis, your penis stretches.
DAVE: I don't buy that.
I mean, temporarily, yes, but not permanently.
RON: I don't know about that.
Maybe you can test that out until next week.
DAVE: Nope.
RON: Did you stretch your penis by an inch?
I mean, because an inch is all that really matters.
I mean, add an inch or two to it.
You're all good.
All right.
Oh, so what the, we brought the movie kind of, it kind of, uh, brought
something else to my head and I, as we know, I don't focus very well.
The bridge that got that collapsed.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: And then now go to the Obama movie.
DAVE: Oh, okay.
RON: I mean, that's just, it was the same bridge.
DAVE: Okay.
But that's in that area.
Of course they're going to film that bridge.
RON: It was the same bridge.
Hollywood and reality follow each other.
Who does the dog wag the tail?
Is the tail wag the dog?
I don't know.
If my dog could talk, he'd tell me.
So getting back to homesteading because I kind of went off on a little
tangent there.
Um, you know, so if you, you know, even in the city, you can compost.
Compost is important because you're not throwing away all the extra foods you
have coffee grounds, what's that coffee grounds?
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So you, you know, get all compost piles set up, turn it over every now and then,
wet it down.
Um, and then you can put it in your garden before you start tilling.
Put those nutrients into your garden.
So it goes into your food.
Um, and I do recommend rain barrels.
Now again, some cities may allow them.
Some may not.
Um, if it's in your backyard, I don't know.
I don't want to encourage you to break the law, but if you, DAVE: If you got a big
fence, you know, like six foot fence, RON: Everybody in Vegas has like a five or
six foot fence.
DAVE: And some of them have, like cement, uh, cinderblock.
RON: Yeah.
I think a lot of people see that's the one.
Can't focus for shit.
What, see, that's the one thing I don't understand.
These cinderblock walls are, they're great for privacy, but when you're driving,
you go and make a left hand turn, you literally gotta pull into traffic to see
if it's clear before you turn.
I don't know.
DAVE: But you can't make left hand turns in Vegas.
What are you talking about?
RON: I mean coming out of my neighborhood.
I can.
DAVE: Well, I, this is the dumbest fucking traffic city in the world.
Let me tell you.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: No left turns.
RON: So yeah, we can't, we are not allowed to make a left hand turn unless we have the
arrow in this town, every one of our DAVE: Most places don't have a left.
Like if there's a big median, you can't even make a left hand turn.
RON: Yeah.
They, they will, they discourage it heavily here.
But yeah, I, I just, I just go, I means, I mean, DAVE: Go right over the median.
Fuck it.
RON: Well, when I had my, well, my Jeep with my Tahoe.
Yeah, I do.
I'll drive over the media because it's funny.
I lived in Seattle.
I had a Jeep and I did an open my comedy show at a bar and to make the left hand
turned to you.
Well, initially when I started the show, it was just a left hand turned into the
parking lot.
They put a concrete barrier there.
It was only like six inches.
So I don't give a shit.
So I'm, I'm sitting there and I would just drive over it because well, I'm in a Jeep.
That's what we do.
And, uh, one of my friends saw me and he's like, what the hell are you doing?
I turned left into here.
What?
Um, yeah, but no, in Vegas, it's weird.
And it's, it's not only that they, they don't like left hand turns because you
have to make a left hand turn basically to stop light.
There's a few areas you can kind of do your thing.
Uh, but, uh, people don't go with the light turns green.
DAVE: No, they don't.
And you know what really pisses me off?
Like everyone has a Tesla these days.
And, and the only reason that in my mind to buy a Tesla is the acceleration.
RON: Oh dear.
DAVE: Zero to 60 and two point whatever.
RON: Holy shit.
Those are fast.
DAVE: Yeah, but nobody presses the accelerator.
RON: No, DAVE: there are cars will not fucking go.
RON: No, no, no, there are.
DAVE: Why would you buy this thing and then drive like a little old lady?
RON: So you know, my, my truck, the Tahoe, my wife has, um, it's an AMG is a Mercedes
AMG, um, her car is fast.
I don't like driving it because I literally race everybody.
It could be a grandma on a bicycle and I'm like, come on, grandma.
Well, but I've had a few Tesla's kind of take out, take me on.
Uh, one, there's one Tesla out there that could beat this car.
And I read, I read it's one of them one time and he, he.
DAVE: I'm not saying they can't, they all can.
They just refuse to.
RON: Well, you know, they're from California.
DAVE: Why'd you buy a Tesla?
RON: Actually, I drove my wife, I might be looking at your
electrical vehicle pretty soon.
DAVE: Yeah?
RON: Well, no, no, I mean, they're, they're cheap.
Nobody wants them.
The dealerships are packed with them.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: And they're going to be, they're going to be fire selling these things.
DAVE: Yeah.
Well, you're going to find that they're not, not worth driving.
RON: I mean, I mean, it's just to work and back.
I don't care.
I mean, if it catches on fire, I'll just drive into Lake Mead.
Oh, but it's too low now.
I can't, oh, no Lake Mead's up now.
So I guess I can, I can put the fire out that way.
Um, yeah, no, where I work at, we have some lady charging her car in the
garage and it's not allowed.
And it's the Chevy Volt.
And apparently you cannot charge a Chevy Volt 100% because it'll catch fire.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: So Chevy's fixed to this was instead of like recalling it and get Chevy, I'm
sorry if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am, but it's my opinion.
I could be wrong.
Um, they say just charged it to 90%.
Yeah.
So I guess you got to get a little chair while you charge your car.
DAVE: Can I get a 10% rebate on the car or what?
RON: No, what are you going money back for?
Don't touch it 90%.
Why do you want to charge 100% for you?
DAVE: That's what I paid for.
RON: Greedy motherfucker.
No, so again, wasn't I talking about homesteading?
DAVE: Yeah, something like that.
RON: Oh yeah, I was talking about homesteading.
Okay.
I'm going to tend to get back to this.
Um, so basically with homesteading, you got the compost, your rain barrels, uh,
grow your own food, which I've been advocating since the day we started this podcast.
Um, I got my, my seeds today.
I'm actually a little late because here in Vegas, we could probably plant, um, I
probably could have been the ground in March by bought little greenhouses.
I'm going to do my little seed starter.
I got my grow light, uh, gonna have some nice corn.
Um, cause you know, corn is actually something really good to have in your garden.
Cause it, uh, especially in Vegas because it's a cover crop.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: So the corn grows taller and corn is really, really durable and sturdy.
Um, and it'll provide some kind of shade for your other plants that aren't really good.
So it's good.
Um, and you know, in corn, you know, there's an argument should be eating corn,
should we not do we get nutrition from it?
I mean, I don't know when you eat it, it goes in and comes out looking the same.
So it may not be really nutritional for it, but do you know what else you
could make with corn?
Make bourbon whiskey.
DAVE: Oh yeah.
RON: All kinds of spirit corn.
Again, not advocating that you distill cause, uh, um, we, uh, we are not allowed
to distill in this country.
Uh, do you, uh, speaking of distilling, do you know why, what the difference is
between moonshine that you make and whiskey by in the store?
DAVE: Um, not specifically RON: You pay taxes and then whiskey, you pay it in the store.
It's all about the taxes.
The tax man cometh.
Um, and if you can learn how to distill your own corn, you can, uh, have some liquor
or you can even make...
Just go again, we're going to, every time I say the word medicine, if I would say
the word tincture, I mean medicine, I just can't say the M word that much.
Um, because it's, it's a distilled spirit and there's a lot of health benefits
from distilled spirits.
Drinking liquor in moderation is actually good for you in moderation.
Uh, I haven't learned that word yet.
So we'll see how that goes for me.
Um, you know, we are talking about the, you know, ducks and chickens.
Hey, honestly, people, it's either one.
Um, you know, it provides you good protein because you want to make sure that
you've got a well rounded garden and, and well, you know, you have all the,
the different stuff in your garden where you can have bread, meat, eggs.
So you can survive, you know, when the next, DAVE: you know, the advantage of ducks,
though, right?
RON: What's that?
DAVE: You can just get them for free.
I mean, you go down to the park and there's ducks all over the place.
Grab one.
RON: Well, but I thought they mated for life.
So you got to find the two that haven't made it yet.
DAVE: That's fine.
RON: Well, you gotta get the husband and the wife.
DAVE: Well, no, you find the two that are hanging out with each other and then those
are the, RON: the two you grab.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Now do you use like a big cartoon style net for that?
Or do you have a little trap?
DAVE: You can, but I think if you're quick enough, you just run up and grab them.
RON: Huh?
DAVE: All right.
I mean, we have swans too.
RON: I mean, like we have black swans?
DAVE: I haven't seen any black swans.
RON: Oh, okay.
DAVE: There was one that had one leg.
RON: Well, no, you, you ever seen any black swans?
DAVE: No.
RON: You didn't see the, the barge hit the bridge.
Isn't that a black swan event?
DAVE: Well, that's different.
RON: Oh yeah.
You mean actual black swans.
Okay.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Apparently they do exist.
I, I, I've never seen one either.
I do.
So, um, yeah.
So you want to have, you know, you want to well run it.
You want the vegetables.
You want the fruit.
You want the meat.
Um, I mean, you probably don't want to eat your chicken that's giving you eggs
or your duct is giving you eggs.
Um, but I mean, you know, you can still maybe, you know, have one chicken either.
Do you know how to cook?
Do you know how to make a chicken from, from alive to the pot?
DAVE: Um, I can figure it out.
I mean, I, I, I've never defeathered one, but I know how to butcher it.
RON: Oh, you do.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Chicken's easy.
Oh, I mean, uh, you cut the spine out with some shears.
RON: Oh, look at you.
DAVE: You can, if you want from there, you can actually, it's called spatch cocking.
Don't laugh.
RON: You spatch cocking a chicken, DAVE: but, but you essentially crack the breastbone and it
lays flat and you can just grill the whole thing like that or do it in the oven or
whatever you want.
Um, or you can, uh, you can butcher it into the traditional parts.
Um, where you would, you slice off the thigh and the leg with it.
RON: And then look at you.
DAVE: You go deep into the backbone.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: Uh, and then, uh, there's what's called the oyster.
Uh, so you cut that part out and then you got the whole thigh with the leg in it.
Uh, you, you go down the breastbone and like you just keep your knife next to the
bone and you get the whole breast off and then you can pull the tenderloin out of
there if you want.
RON: Oh, you're like all sophisticated on this stuff.
DAVE: Oh yeah.
I, I, um, I could do any animal.
RON: How about a fish?
Oh, it's fish.
Chop the head off.
I'm chopped the tail off.
Now speaking of chickens, do you eat the feet?
DAVE: Um, I have RON: Really?
That's disgusting.
DAVE: You can go down to the Filipino grocery store.
RON: I know.
DAVE: Yeah.
Yeah.
They're good.
Well, so you don't, you don't like fry them or anything like, cause it's all.
Kind of gristle and skin.
So what you do is you, you boil them for a long time in sauce and then you kind of
just like gnaw at them.
RON: Okay.
So those, those you want fried chicken feet, you now know what to do.
Um, and then also if you're, if you are homestead, you, cause you're going to have
a garden, so you want to learn how to cook from scratch.
You want to be able to, you know, create a meal from what's in your garden or what's
in your backyard.
Um, so that, you know, so that's important.
DAVE: We could maybe do like a live demo of a butcher chicken butchering.
RON: You think PETA wouldn't, DAVE: I don't give a shit.
RON: I don't need a bunch of vegans outside my house.
DAVE: We're on the dark web.
You can't censor us.
RON: Yeah.
Try and find me vegans.
Um, yeah.
Well, you know, I actually know that actually might not be a bad thing.
I actually, cause it, cause initially we could cut the head off.
DAVE: Yeah.
Yeah.
If you, if you watch it run around, if you can find a whole chicken that's alive,
like we can do that.
That'll be awesome.
RON: You know, actually that might not be a bad thing.
So yeah, we might, we might be killing chickens here pretty soon.
Um, you know, and then the last thing with homesteading is you do want to know how
to repair your own house.
You want, you want, you want to learn how to fix things around your house just to
save some money.
Um, and then also the other thing I forgot to mention when I come in with small animals
is bees.
Bees are critical.
One for our environment.
Uh, but two, they produce this thing called honey.
Um, you know, for you young ins, I'm not sure if you know what honey is yet.
You want to find out cause it's fucking good.
Um, and it also helps in your tinctures because honey is anti-inflammatory, anti
bacterial.
Um, if you have allergies, if you have, so when it comes to raw honey, one, trust
the source you buy your raw honey from, cause there are some assholes out there
that buy honey from China and then say it's raw, raw honey.
Uh, you know, there's a way to test, test it.
I, um, with water, I forgot what it was.
You can, one floats, one doesn't.
I, I'll, next week I'll bring it up on how to test your honey.
Um, but there is a lot of medicinal purposes for honey.
DAVE: So did you know that, uh, when they dug up the pyramids in the early 1900s,
they had jars of honey in there and you could still eat it.
RON: Yeah, you can.
DAVE: Honey just lasts forever.
RON: Yeah.
They found some old sunken ships and they found honey in there and they were
sealed, sealed jars of seawater eating you in.
They ate it.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Um, and there was a, there was a wild beehive.
I think it was in West Virginia and it's never been discovered before.
And it literally was just packed with honey.
Um, yeah, honey is really good for the eat cause it is a base of a lot of
tinctures.
DAVE: Um, so, and then you add sweetness without, you know, process sugar.
RON: Yeah.
You know, that's the thing with sugar.
I mean, I, I get it.
When I make my Kool-Aid, I'm putting sugar in that, but the reality is sugar
really should be a controlled substance, man.
That's just so bad for you.
But it's ketchup man.
You know that?
DAVE: Of course.
RON: I didn't know that for the longest time.
Um, I'm actually,
DAVE: No, no, no, it's not sugar.
It's high fructose corn syrup.
RON: Oh yeah.
The corn syrup, corn syrup.
Um, yeah.
So, you know, there's a lot of different stuff you can do, you know, look into it.
I do recommend getting, you know, a propane tank or a water storage tank, but
check with your local government to make sure they allow you to do what you want
in your property.
Um, because what I'm thinking about doing here is cause I actually was researching
this today, I cannot find what's weird.
It's, it's hard to put into a search engine.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Um, and I use duck duck go.
Look at this duck duck.
You want to sponsors?
We're right here waiting for you.
DAVE: I'm going to interrupt you there and say use brave search.
RON: Oh yeah.
Okay.
Probably brave search is better.
Yeah.
Cause duck duck goes like, Hey, we're, you know, we have privacy.
If you say you have privacy, you probably don't.
Um, I'm just not a real techie guy.
I just stay off of Google.
Um, I mean, keep in mind guys, Google is a government contractor.
Uh, they work with the government.
What did you hear this today?
Uh, actually the other day, uh, it's not new.
It's new to new to me.
Probably not new to other people.
Uh, the federal government, the FBI has asked YouTube.
They want to know DAVE: who watched some video.
Yeah.
RON: But guess what?
One of the kinds of videos are. Preppers.
DAVE: Oh, really?
RON: Yeah.
Oh yeah.
DAVE: Wasn't it something about explosives or something?
RON: Well, that's okay.
So that's the thing.
You know, preppers like anything in this world, there's, there's the normal ones
and then there's the extreme ones.
I'm not saying any of them are wrong.
I'm just saying, you know, stick to your, your food and your, your guns and your
ammo.
Uh, I mean, cause you gotta, you know, you gotta be able to protect your, your,
your vegetable garden from animals.
DAVE: Yeah.
Of course.
RON: Do not shoot animals in your backyard if you're in the city.
They tend to frown on that.
Um, but no, we, but yeah.
So it was weird that I'm like preppers and survival and stuff is they, they don't,
our government doesn't want us doing that.
DAVE: Maybe they'll put a subpoena out on our videos.
RON: Yeah.
I'm kind of waiting for that.
I'm waiting for that.
DAVE: We can let the canary on our website die.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: Wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah.
But we, would they put it in Guantanamo Bay?
No, not us.
DAVE: Oh, not us.
It's our, it's our viewers.
RON: Oh yeah.
You dirty motherfuckers.
It's all you guys.
It's not us.
Um, yeah, it's just, yeah, it's weird that they're, they're tracking certain videos.
DAVE: I think from, from what I understand, no, YouTube hasn't, um, said one way or the
other, but I don't know if they gave them that list.
RON: From what I'm hearing, they're working, they're working hand to hand with each other,
but I'm not, I'm not confirming that.
Um, because they want, what they want is they, if you have a, you, if you have a
YouTube account, they want your name.
DAVE: Yes.
RON: And if you don't, they want your IP address.
DAVE: Right.
So you're the computer guy, is there anything I can put on my computer that
would say put my IP address in Russia or China or?
DAVE: Well, Russia and China are, are a little bit harder, but, um, I mean, we
discussed last week Tor.
RON: Well, no, I'd be like a VPN kind of thing.
DAVE: Well, VPN, um, it will do that, but you are now placing your trust in the VPN company.
RON: Oh, like Liberty gun safes.
DAVE: Right.
RON: I called them.
Hey, we need to get in this safe.
Oh, here's the master code.
You motherfuckers.
You should be out.
Hopefully welcome to bankruptcy.
DAVE: No sponsorship from you guys.
RON: Yeah, I do.
I, I, even if you want to, and I'm sure you do, we will not accept a sponsor from
Liberty gun safes.
DAVE: So, so some VPNs are more trustworthy than others, but it's still that critical
single point of failure.
Um, so if you, if you are really serious about, um, not having someone track you,
you use Tor.
RON: So I thought about this after our last show.
How, I mean, I talked about a lot, but how do you get on the dark web though?
DAVE: Yeah, we get, you got to go back and watch our episode.
RON: No, no, no, no, but it was just, you put in like the.
DAVE: So you get the Tor browser.
RON: Oh, it's a brow...
Okay.
I either didn't catch it or I didn't know if DAVE: You were nodding off.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: No, no, there's the link is on our website.
You get the Tor browser, uh, and then, you know, you follow the instructions,
install everything, um, and then you just go to whatever website you would normally go to.
And now you have a essentially a random IP address.
RON: Okay.
Yeah, I did.
DAVE: Okay.
But there is.
So like I did mention last week, um, a lot of these exit node operators are the
government.
So you don't want to be putting sensitive information into anything, but it's safe
if you're just watching things.
RON: So when I'm on the dark web and they ask to verify my banking account number, I
shouldn't verify that.
DAVE: No, you don't do that.
RON: Oh shit.
I gotta make a phone call.
Yeah.
No, no, that's fine.
Yeah.
Cause I mean, I'm going to start, I think experimenting with the dark web.
DAVE: It's a good idea.
Um, and then the other thing, like if you really want to get hardcore, like get on
the I2P, um, and from there, there's sort of YouTube-ish things you can go to.
Um, but a lot of, a lot of things are just shared with Torrents.
Uh, and Torrents are, you know, um, how people illegally download movies.
Don't do that.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: But that's how our podcast is shared on the dark web.
It's over at BitTorrent.
RON: Yeah.
It's funny how.
I keep saying I can't focus and you actually think that I understood what you
said last week.
DAVE: I told you, you said you don't watch our videos.
RON: No, I can't watch myself.
I mean, when I did standup comedy, I wouldn't record myself.
It's just, I don't know.
It's not a self-conscious.
I mean, look at me.
I'm gorgeous.
I mean, I'm, I'm all man here.
Uh, no, I just, I don't know.
I just, I just like having fun and, and.
DAVE: Well, at least go to our website and see, oh yeah, Dave talked about Tor and then
here's the Tor link.
Every time we do something on an episode, I put links up.
RON: Yeah.
As you can tell who the tech guy is and who the non tech guy is, but, uh, if you
want to survive, I can help you with that.
Um, so yeah, so just, you know, I would say look into it, but we go, maybe go in
the dark web or go somewhere else with YouTube and watch some videos.
There's, there's, there's actually really good people online that are giving
some really good advice.
Um, and, and maybe what we'll start doing is some, uh, some, uh, how to
filet a chicken.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Um, I actually got another friend at work.
He, he's in the cell.
Well, are you, are you trained in martial arts?
DAVE: A little bit.
RON: I mean, cause I do want to, I do want to do it like a how to video on at least how
to protect yourself.
No, I don't want to teach you how to fight.
That's not what I want to do.
I just want to teach you how to get out of a bad situation without necessarily the
use of a gun, because the use of a gun should be the, the last option you choose.
Um, maybe.
No, I mean, a goal of my life is I don't ever want to take somebody else's life.
I just, I don't.
Um, so yeah, I, I, I have my stuff and I use it if I need to.
So, um, I really, I mean, as, as homesteading for this, this class, I think
I'm kind of done on talking about that.
What do you, what do you got for us this week?
DAVE: So yeah, I want to talk about cryptocurrency as a, as a high level concept.
So, um, a lot of the people in my circles, we all know what crypto is, how it works
and all the fancy shit.
Um, but what do you know about cryptocurrency?
RON: It's fake.
No, no, I mean, I, my, I do, I looked into it a little bit.
Um, I don't own any.
I, I've thought about it, you know, I mean, so, um, Bitcoin, I've been hearing
some rumblings that the government's trying to buy some and control it a little bit more.
DAVE: Um, okay.
So I guess what do you know about it from a technical level?
I mean, like why, why is it different from the, the digital money in your bank account?
RON: Yeah, I don't know a lot about it.
I mean, I do know, like some people sold their house and they took crypto.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Um, you could buy gas, the crypto in certain areas here in Vegas.
Uh, I believe you can buy a Tesla car.
DAVE: They, I think they stopped doing that.
RON: Oh, did they?
DAVE: I'm not sure, but I, okay.
RON: But there are, there are businesses that will accept it.
It's so, it's so very foreign to me.
DAVE: Right.
RON: But I think I'll hopefully try to stay focused and learn something.
DAVE: Okay.
So, so, uh, here in the West and, you know, that's Europe and in America and any
kind of Western culture nation, uh, we have always used commodity money.
Okay.
So, so gold and silver has been money historically.
And the way commodity money works is, uh, Ron's got that cup over there and I
want to buy that cup.
I'm going to physically give him this piece of silver and then he's going
to physically give me that cup.
Okay.
And in our minds, that's just how money works.
Um, so, so cryptocurrency is actually fundamentally different than that.
And, um, the best way to describe it is to do a quick history lesson.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Okay.
So have you ever heard of Micronesia?
RON: I have not.
DAVE: All right.
So Micronesia is a set of islands in the Pacific Ocean, um, near Australia.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, they're kind of Polynesian oriented.
RON: Um, were they a prison too initially?
DAVE: I don't think so.
Okay.
Um, so anyway, the Spanish, uh, during the exploration age, they, they discovered
these islands, uh, and there were people living there.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, you know, Polynesian people, uh, and the way they handled money is they
carved these stones.
Uh, they had, you know, like, um, quarries and, and little mountain because it was
all volcanic, you know what I mean?
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, so they would carve these stones and.
Some of the stones were, you know, hand sized, but others were gigantic.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: So you'd have a, a, a 4,000 pound ton boulder and someone carved this and it
just sat there and, and that was the money.
So now how does that work?
Right.
Well, so what, what you would do is you would go into that mountain and you would
carve your stone and you say, I, Ron Morgan, this is now my stone.
Okay.
You tell everyone in the village, I carved that stone.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: And then, so let's say some time goes by and, uh, you want to marry my daughter.
Right.
And I say, well, RON: I don't know about that.
DAVE: Well, I don't have a daughter.
So you can just imagine RON: Thank God for that.
Um, so you have not procreated.
DAVE: No.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, but anyway, so you, you want to marry my daughter and I say, okay, you can
marry my daughter, but you have to give me your stone over on the mountain.
Now it's a 4,000 pound ton stone.
How are you going to give me the stone?
RON: Uh, take it down?
No, we just give him the stone.
DAVE: Well, you, what you do is you go into the middle of town square and you say, I,
Ron Morgan, I'm giving Dave my stone.
And, and that's all it is.
Right.
So then the people in the village square would say, Hey, did you hear Ron gave
his stone to Dave and Dave's giving his daughter in marriage?
And you know, the town would, would disseminate that information.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: And eventually everyone has a copy in their head of the fact that Ron carved
a stone and then gave that stone to Dave.
And as the years go by, you just keep this ledger essentially of who gave
stones to who and who carved stones.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Right.
And it all makes sense.
RON: Now, did the government tax the stones?
DAVE: Uh, I don't think they had what we think of as a government.
Uh, they were, you know, like stone age people.
RON: So they were smarter than us.
DAVE: Yes.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: But they were stone age people.
RON: They were smarter than us.
Okay.
DAVE: But so this all makes sense, right?
RON: Yeah.
No, no, I get it.
Yeah.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: So it's a barter system.
Technically.
DAVE: Uh, well, it's not really barter because you're not physically giving the stone
to anybody.
You're, you're just saying, RON: but I'm, but DAVE: so, so it's a funny story.
Um, there was a, an expedition to one of the other islands nearby and they,
they took a stone off that island and the stone fell into the ocean, right?
In the middle of the trip.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: But they said, well, the stone's there, right?
So why can't I give Ron my stone that's at the bottom of the ocean?
Even though no one sees the stone, the stone's lost.
RON: So I kind of understand it.
Cause I had the same problem with all my guns.
They fell off my boat into the bottom of the ocean, DAVE: but you can't give them to
anybody, RON: but they're still my guns, right?
DAVE: I don't know.
RON: Okay.
What is it?
Well, that's the government.
What they, what they think.
DAVE: But yeah.
So there's, there's actually a stone at the bottom of the ocean that people were
trading back and forth.
RON: Oh this is hysterical.
DAVE: Yeah.
So, um, basically that's what cryptocurrency is just on computers.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: So, so yeah.
So like when I want to send you some Bitcoin, I would just say to the network of
other Bitcoin users, uh, I have this Bitcoin, I'm going to give it to Ron.
And then, and then all the network sees that and says, okay, yeah, we agree.
Ron now owns the Bitcoin.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, so the, uh, funny thing about the Spanish, you know, they had
battle tools so they could just make all the rocks they wanted and they, they
inflated the currency into nothing.
RON: Um, okay.
Like the federal government with the dollar.
DAVE: Exactly.
And, uh, and, and the thing with crypto is you, you can't actually do that.
So when you write the code, you say in advance how the crypto will be
distributed over time.
So with Bitcoin, uh, it will reach, uh, 21 million and something.
And then there will be no more Bitcoin created ever.
RON: Well, I thought you could mine Bitcoin off the internet.
DAVE: Yeah.
You, you so the way it works, um, the 21 million hasn't been reached yet.
That's going to happen in about a hundred years.
RON: Oh, okay.
DAVE: Um, so right now Bitcoin is being created, but once that 21 million figure is
reached, it won't be mined anymore.
RON: So when you're mining, what do you actually get?
I mean, what is it?
Is it code you're getting there?
What is it?
DAVE: Um, okay.
So for, for cryptocurrency, you have a, what's called a wallet, right?
RON: Right.
DAVE: And essentially what that is, is two sets of cryptographic keys.
One is your private key and then one is your public key.
And the public key is what other people are allowed to see.
So that's your address, how they can send you crypto, how you know
where crypto came from.
And then your private key, you keep it to yourself and anybody who has
the private key can, can do what they want with that crypto.
And this is how basic encryption works over the internet.
So, um, you know, when you see that little green lock on a website, they
have a private key that lets them create the lock and then they have a public
key, which lets you see the lock.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: It's, it's some complicated math shit.
Um, it's not really worth getting into.
RON: No, I get, yeah.
DAVE: I hear, if people do want to see it, there are videos explaining that kind of
stuff.
RON: Uh, it's, but then what about, like, so what's the difference between like,
uh, Bitcoin and like dojo dojo dogecoin DAVE: dogecoin.
So, uh, anyone can make their own crypto, right?
So, so Bitcoin was the first one and people are running the Bitcoin code.
Okay.
And all the people that run that same code agree on what Bitcoin is.
And then because it's open source, you can download the source code.
You can change it.
Right.
Now, if you change it, all these people running the Bitcoin code will say,
you're whatever you're doing, that's not Bitcoin, but you can take your code
and talk to other people and then form Ron coin or dogecoin.
RON: No, no, Ron coin DAVE: or anything else.
RON: I think I'm digging that.
DAVE: So that's why there's like 20,000 different cryptos out there.
Um, the vast majority are scams.
Um, you know, like I mentioned on the, on the secure messaging apps, if it's
not open source, it's a scam.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: So that, that's the one thing you got to keep in mind.
Um, if someone's telling you, you can earn absurd rates of return, that's a scam.
Right.
Like you're not making 200% interest by just sitting there with a coin.
RON: This sounds too good to be true.
DAVE: It's yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, but yeah, so it's, it's, it's like these stones where you can't counterfeit
it because it's just a big ass stone sitting there.
How do you counterfeit that?
Um, you can, and then the way you transfer it is you just say, I'm going to transfer this.
RON: That's so weird.
Hey, it's working man.
Good.
DAVE: Yeah.
And the way mining works is so, so like when you say you're giving me your
stone, uh, the network has to prove that you're you.
And the way it does that is by solving these math puzzles.
And that's what mining is.
So whoever solves the puzzle gets a reward.
And right now that's one of the new bitcoins.
Uh, but in the future, it's the fee you're paying and you pay a fee right now.
Um, but that's going to grow over time.
People suspect as, as the mining rewards go to zero.
RON: Oh, so okay.
Wow.
That's very interesting.
Okay.
DAVE: Yeah.
So I mean, that's kind of what I wanted to go over just like a high, a very high
level, what is cryptocurrency?
Um, why is it immune from government?
So you mentioned, uh, the government's trying to buy Bitcoin to control it.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: I mean, you, that doesn't really do anything.
So, okay, they can buy the coins, but they can't steal my coins.
They can't, um, interfere with the network.
They can't prevent me from sending coins to anybody.
RON: Can they tax it?
DAVE: They can say they're taxing it.
Um, but you would have to disclose that to them.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
So the other thing about now, I want to get into this more next week when I talk
about Monero.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, so Bitcoin is fully transparent.
And so what that means is when you want to change your Bitcoins to me or you want
to give your Bitcoins to me, you're again, going out to the world saying, I run,
give my Bitcoins to Dave.
Uh, now you don't know that it's Ron, but we know that it's this guy.
Right.
So this address sent one Bitcoin to that address and the whole world sees that.
And they can also see all the historical transactions.
So anytime you have a Bitcoin address, uh, people know how much exactly you have
in that address.
RON: Oh, really?
DAVE: Yes.
RON: Do you have, do you have multiple addresses?
DAVE: Yes.
You can have essentially infinite.
Uh, it's, it's quadrillions or quintillions or some ridiculous number.
Um, but yeah, so you can just keep creating them.
But because Bitcoin is fully transparent, anytime you send it to one of those
addresses, anybody can, you know, see where it came from.
Um, there's, there's things called mixers where you send it into a pool and then
someone in the pool sends theirs out so that it loses that, you know, connection.
Um, but the, I mean, the government has a lot of sophisticated tools that they
use to, to try and track.
RON: Well, that's the whole thing about the 80,000 IRS issues that you just hired.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Cause I, I asked my accountant, I mean, let's just say I get some IRS issues.
Uh, I've been libertarian.
I think we all, we all should.
I don't.
DAVE: Um, I pay all my taxes.
RON: Oh, I sort of pay my taxes.
Uh, I pay all my taxes at the appropriate amount of time.
Um, but I, he said, yeah, he's like, you know, I, I'm, I'm, I'm getting
right with the IRS.
Um, but he said it's the, those agents are mainly going after crypto.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: And illegal funds.
Kind of stuff.
He's like, you know, don't worry about it.
If you're, you know, if you're incommunicado with the IRS, which.
DAVE: So yeah, I mean, like mo, the other thing is most people are getting their
crypto on these exchanges, like Coinbase or Binance.
And when you sign up to these websites, they get your name, they get your ID,
you know, they get your social security number.
RON: Oh, DAVE: yeah.
So, uh, if you want to get into crypto in a, in a private manner, you want to
avoid this stuff.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Uh, I mean, like you're going to pay higher fees because you're paying
for your own privacy, but there's, there's definitely, uh, private ways to
acquire your crypto, RON: which is better, the private or non private?
DAVE: Well, I mean, it depends on what you're doing.
I mean, I would just say always go for the pay the premium, get the private.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Um, but you might not have enough volume.
You know what I mean?
So if you're a big whale, well, the only way you're going to get 200
grand worth of crypto is to go on one of the exchanges.
RON: Okay.
Wow.
That's very interesting.
Yeah.
No, I, I, you know, I, I've kind of tried to dabble in a little bit, but I'm
just like, I, I just, I, I'd end up losing on my own or something.
I don't know.
DAVE: Yeah.
I mean, like, so the other thing is that I would say is don't get into crypto
because you think the dollar price of it will go up.
RON: Well, but keep, should you get into it?
If you think the dollar is going to crash?
DAVE: Not really because there's a lot of things that you can get into when the
dollar crashes, I mean, the dollar is going to crash.
We know that.
Um, but the reason you would want crypto over gold or silver is because
you want to be able to pay people far away.
Right.
So, so silver, I can just pay you next door.
My next door neighbor go to the farmer's market, whatever.
Um, but if you need digital services that are produced in Russia or China, you
can't beat crypto.
I mean, like how, how would you even pay normal money to someone in Russia?
Right.
We have sanctions and yeah.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: So, uh, so the reason you want to get into crypto is to use it as a
transfer of money over, over the internet.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Uh, and, and so that's why next week I'm going to talk about Monero, which is
uh, my preferred crypto.
RON: Yeah.
I've heard you talking about that before.
Okay.
Speaking of Russia though, did you see that mass shooting?
DAVE: Oh yeah.
The, yeah.
RON: I guess that's one story we just forgot about.
DAVE: Well, I mean, we're getting all this, there's nothing, what can you say about it?
I mean, one side says Ukraine did it.
The other side says, uh, it's a false flag.
You're, they're saying ISIS.
RON: Well, the ISIS is what, is what I found interesting.
I mean, did you know we started ISIS?
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Our government did?
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: I didn't know that.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Okay.
That's the first.
DAVE: Well, because we had to fight the Taliban, who we also started.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: And then we had to fight Osama bin Laden, who we also started.
RON: Well, but was it Osama bin Laden?
Wasn't he, what, on our side early on?
DAVE: Yeah, in the 80s.
RON: Okay.
DAVE: Do you remember Rambo 3?
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: Yeah.
That was in Afghanistan.
RON: Yeah.
DAVE: With, essentially Osama bin Laden.
RON: Ah.
DAVE: You had the Mujahideen, I believe?
RON: All right.
Well, let's do, let's do a closing story.
So Osama bin Laden, do you think he was killed by still team six?
DAVE: I don't see why not.
RON: Oh, see, I don't think he was.
DAVE: Yeah.
Where'd he go?
RON: No, no.
I mean, you know, he had health issues.
He had, he was on dialysis and stuff.
DAVE: Okay.
RON: And there was, oh Jesus Christ, I came up this story.
There was a lady that was running for the president of Pakistan.
And she went, and she was in hiding and then she went back to Pakistan to run for office.
And she was doing an interview and they're like, well, you know,
there's a lot of people that don't want you to become president because you're a woman.
And, you know, what are you doing to protect yourself from them?
And she started naming people, you know, you know, this person, we know about this person,
we know about that person.
And she named a guy, she goes, well, this is the guy that killed Osama bin Laden.
And everyone's like, wait, what?
What did she just say?
And, you know, and that's fine.
I mean, it, but again, it comes down to our government response to that story.
Our government said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
She wasn't talking about this one about Laden.
We're after Osama bin Laden is like Jones and Smith over there.
DAVE: Yeah, right.
RON: Right.
So I'm just like, wait, what?
You know, so it's possible that, you know, because, oh, geez going back.
You just, so you remember when we were still two to six women killed Osama bin Laden
and we dumped him in the ocean, which is against the Geneva Convention.
Okay.
So we did that.
So I, ah, man, DAVE: I thought they just, you know, they lost him the way you lost your guns.
RON: Yeah.
You know, I guess boating is dangerous, I guess.
But no, it was just the way she said it.
She didn't like pause for dramatic effect.
Just said it.
DAVE: Matter of fact.
RON: Yeah.
And the weird thing about that was it happened.
So going back to how I remember what year that was, we had a hacker group out there
hacking corporations and they would, they would hack a corporation and they would put
out a press release on the corporation's letterhead.
And then the corporation would come in and see that and they go, oh, no, no, no, no, that's not ours.
Like, I think they did GE and they said, oh, we're going to donate all of our, our
tax refunds to charity.
And she's like, no, no, we did not do that.
That was not us.
So this was, that was like around the April timeline.
So in May it was, I don't want to get into this birther thing.
I don't care.
But Osama, but Obama's, that was YouTube.
That was a natural error.
I did not mean to say that.
That's when his birth certificate came out.
And, you know, some people believe that it was, it was released by this internet group.
And then within a week later, we killed Osama Bin Laden.
Again, does the tail wag the dog?
Does the dog always wag the tail?
You know, and, and, and that's my problem because it's like, I love my conspiracy theories.
I mean, I, I try to be rational about it.
I mean, I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat, at least on camera.
I'm not.
But when shit doesn't make sense, and maybe this is kind of like where I'm on the spectrum.
If it just doesn't make sense, I don't get it.
It doesn't, I don't understand.
So, you know, I mean, keep in mind, everybody was asking Obama for his birth certificate.
The Supreme Court, they're like, we're not going to make a ruling on this, but we don't
understand why he wouldn't produce it.
And then Trump asking for it, and then it got released.
And then we killed Osama Bin Laden.
So it's like, I don't know.
DAVE: Things do happen at a weird timings.
RON: I don't believe in coincidences though.
They take, they take too much time to plan.
So, all right, that's my quick story on that one.
But, uh, I think, uh, I think we broke the hour.
So what, uh, anything else you want to say?
Except goodbye?
DAVE: No, yeah, just tune in next week.
So I'll talk about Monero, which is, um, like I said, a privacy cryptocurrency.
RON: Okay.
Yeah.
And at some point, can you talk about gold?
Or do you know enough about gold?
DAVE: Um, we can, I mean, we can.
RON: Yeah, because I keep hearing these commercials.
I go, oh, this is a podcast.
And they're like, you know, the economy's this and that.
And, you know, and I said, oh, okay, we're going to have an economy now.
I'm going to learn some stuff.
And they go, oh, buy gold.
And if you want to buy gold, buy it from here.
Oh, that's a fucking sales ad.
DAVE: Yeah, yeah.
RON: So I don't know what's right and what's wrong with that.
I mean, you know, I'm not going to be going out buying a bunch of gold, but.
DAVE: We can talk about that next week or?
RON: No, no, do your Monero.
The future just bring up a, you know, DAVE: we could, we could talk about it during the.
RON: The crosstalk.
DAVE: Yeah.
RON: Unless there's a huge news event.
Like a barge crash into a bridge or something.
Okay.
I'll try to predict what's next, but in this world, I'm not going to predict anything
because anything could happen.
All right, people.
Thanks for listening.
See you next week.
DAVE: See you next week.