Alright, welcome to the Canary in the Cage podcast. I'm Ron Morgan, my cohost Dave
Havlicek. We're here to entertain you educate you and hopefully make you laugh. What do we
got? What's I guess the first thing we should I don't like viral videos. I know I just I
think they suck. You hit the hard button and I don't ever want to be in a viral video and
you repost them all. But this one particular one at this point I think we've all seen it.
A CEO of a tech company was with his human resources, the head of human resources at a
Coldplay concert. First of all, what the fuck were they doing at Coldplay concert? I didn't
know they so I didn't know that so existed. Because you think Coldplay is they're a bunch of
music either plagiarists. They I can't name everyone they've stolen from because a lot
of it is music. I don't know his opinion. He could be wrong. But what's the fuck? But
I think like your your analogy though, what are they going to do? Sue me for saying they're
they're plagiarist because they're plagiarist songs. Yeah, no. I can't I'm trying to look
up Oh, Viva la Vida. You know that song, the Coldplay song. Yeah, oh, I thought it was a
Viva la Vida. Okay, that's stolen from Joe Satriani. Go look up if I could fly by Joe Satriani
and then listen to Viva la Vida by Coldplay and tell me that's not the same fucking song.
Is that gonna be a vanilla ice? It's much worse than that. No, it's very obvious. Real
vanilla ice one was pretty fucking obvious too. Yeah, he only stole like a three second
sample. He's like, there's a bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump
It's like what?
No, he they stole the whole fucking melody like, okay, no, I actually like finding song
plagiarism is one of my like, mini hobbies that I have. And I just like waste a lot of fucking
time like, Oh, that song stole from this song. And no one's ever heard of that. So the first
time I heard the Kid Rock song, I know, Jackie, what you're talking about?
The where we're from?
Somewhere along? Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's a stolen song too. Well, but I think he obviously
got he obviously got permission. When I first heard it, I'm like, what the fuck? I always
get rocked. Right? Right. Who the fuck is doing this song? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, this is
horrible. I mean, it's like, it's like V song. Yeah. I realized that that's what it was. Well,
do you know that wearables in London is a stolen song too? For who? Leonard Skinner.
We're songs we home Alabama.
Go listen to him. I go listen to money free time. I don't fucking listen to these things,
dude. I got like really obscure ones that like no one's ever mentioned before.
You can steal the redneck anthem.
Well, they did. Those bastards.
He did. Anyway, let's let's now the video doesn't come come clear too well here, but I will link
it because this is going to be our Monero challenge.
So basically, this is a CEO of a tech company with his director of human resources. They
were at a Coldplay concert in a in a nice little cuddle.
And the minute they guys put on the big screen, he ducks down and she hides her face and kind
of like gets off cameras quick as possible. But her friend who knows what's going on is
just like what the fuck. But I would say, dude, why why you're busted. Embrace it.
Don't hide in duck. Maybe throw a quick wave up and hopefully just goes away.
He could have he could still have his wife and children today. It'd be in that situation better.
But so let's say for the Monero challenge is we're going to say, uh, yeah, like what could he
have done to have salvaged the situation? So like, let's say you are fooling around and you're caught
on the kiss cam. What would you do? How would you salvage? How do you play it off? Yeah, because
even the lead singer of Coldplay, which I have no clue what his name is anybody. You're
Bealer. Nobody. Okay. So the lead singer of Coldplay evens like they must be cheating on their
spouses. Because I mean, this dude like dough. Yeah. You know, you got when you got Coldplay going
after you, you fucked up man. When Coldplay is smart enough to know you're cheating on you,
you know, you got a problem. So yeah, there's our Monero challenge for this week. Like I said,
I'll put the video in in the links so that you guys can actually watch it in case you haven't
seen it yet. Yeah, it's actually pretty funny. It's just because how they react. Because that's
the thing. If you make a mistake in life, own the mistake. It goes so much smoother. And I mean,
they could have, you know, played well, there's a bunch of things. There's a bunch of things that
could have done. But that's the thing. If you get caught, don't don't try to hide from it.
Because you're hiding from it nowadays says, does all these fucking idiots with sub-bomb cameras,
oh, there's something going on here. Streisand effect. Yeah, Streisand effect. You never heard
that? No. How the fuck do you do? Where have you been living? Jesus Christ. Okay, so in like the
early 2000s or something, like when the internet was just getting hot and rolling, I think it was
for like, 4chan had become a thing by then. Somebody found an aerial photo of Barbara Streisand's
house on the beach. I just saw that. Okay, well, yeah, I'm fine. So yeah, someone found an aerial
photo of her house. They posted it on the internet. She sued and then went viral because she sued.
Okay, okay. So I just saw that picture. Okay. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? Why is, why is it?
Streisand effect. The house has called her for, called her for, called her for, holy shit. I just
found a new word I can't say. Colorful. And I'm like, but why, why is this, they say Barbara
Streisand's home? Yeah. But I didn't know why. Now I know. See, see the stuff you've heard in this
podcast? The cover up is worse than the crime, is it? Right. That's what, so shut the fuck up. Own
your shit. And you may not go viral. Don't try to sue people that put photos of your house, which is
perfectly legal and public. So you can deal with it. Oh, Lordy. So you want to hear about, speaking
of like people like, well, I guess it says it really relate, but I'm gonna do it anyway. I can't
transition to it. You know, Casper Tells got some issues going on right now. What kind of issues?
Is he on the F team list?
You know, I don't know. Maybe yes. We're good to that.
You're not short for that. Wouldn't he be on the other side of the F team list? He's kind of short.
Oh God. Only on the canary in the cage.
Do you get jokes like that?
That was my rough cram. So apparently, so okay, so there was a guy who posted something online
yesterday that said they're using the obscene stuff to try and deflect an issue with Casper
Tell and a Congressperson. Okay. And but that's all they said. I could not find out what they were
talking about. So I went down a rabbit hole looking for shit about Casper Tell. I found this and I
don't believe this is it, but this was interesting to me. So he has, so the FBI apparently bought a
plane from, oh, what's the guy, the guy who owned the Patriots. Now Bill Belichick is the coach.
That's me.
Ironically, though, we shouldn't actually bring up the Shane Gillis joke about Bill Belichick.
He got a little bit of trouble for it, but it's fucking hysterical.
So we should get in trouble for it.
Oh, I don't give a fuck. It's a joke. If you want to fucking crucify me for a joke,
fuck off. It's a joke, whether I say it, whether another comedian says it.
But so the owner, Roger, no, Roger, doesn't have the NFL, whatever. So the guy who owned the Patriots
sold the FBI his plane and it's, it's a big plane, whatever. Apparently, beautiful plane.
He's a big, it's a big, beautiful plane. Unless you're a Democrat, then it's a big, ugly plane.
But apparently he, when he flies back here to Vegas, because he, he, he is from Vegas.
So let's just get that straight. He's not coming to Vegas to, to party like a tourist on the strip.
I'm sure he says off the strip. Most of us do. Fuck the strip. Say off the strip. If you're in
Vegas, hang out three months straight or go into the town. Robert Kraft. Robert Kraft. That's guy's name.
We have a beautiful town here. And we have all kinds of matter of fact in, wait, hold on,
three weeks, August 9th, 9th, it's about three weeks from now. I'm going on a ghost hunt.
Oh God. So there's all kinds of stuff to do. No, no, no, this is like legit, man.
We have professional equipment. We're going to be up by area 51. Oh my God. This friend is,
is, is what I, I, right. I have never confirmed that there's ghost exists. I've got friends
and family members who I trust who believe ghosts exist. I've seen shit in my own life
not happen to me that it makes it possible. So we're going on a, we're going on a,
a ghost hunt, but they also said there could be a portal on this ranch that connects the,
the universe to, to, to the, to the earth. I don't know. It's going to be fun. I'll have
plenty of pictures. I'll post. It's probably one of those places where like they have all
these optical illusions that you fuck around with. It's, I mean, so we understand it's probably
hokey, but it is up by area 51. It's, uh, this ranch is related to the skin walker ranch. I believe
in Utah. So we'll see. I'll post pictures and videos and we'll see how it works out. But yeah,
no, but, but here's the thing. My wife was like, I'm getting a little scared about going because
I'm a little freaked out because we're going to be in the desert from eight PM to two AM.
And she's not worried about the ghosts or the aliens. She's worried about scorpions and snakes
to say it. Uh, but this town, I don't even ask me the name of this town. I can't say it. Um,
in the late 1800s, it was a murdered capital, the murdered capital of Nevada. It was a mining town
and it was a pretty fucking wild one. Like one murder. No, no, no, no. Like I'll take a picture.
They actually have a boot hill or a graveyard with all the murderers on one side and the victims
on the other side. So I'll take some pictures. It'll be fun. We'll see. But now getting back to
catch Patel, apparently he likes to load his plane with alcohol before he flies to Vegas. Who does
it? I mean, I mean, he don't bring so the fuck's wrong with you. Um, so yeah, so he's apparently
on Epstein lists. That's how you get there. You don't be drunk to me on the episode. That's how
they get you. You have to be a pedophile who likes little kids. You know, they just get you drunk
with, with, they spike the drink and then this is a tall fucking over. Is that how they got Tom
Hanks? Well, no, I mean, some of them genuinely enjoy it, but for the other people. So, so, so
it's gonna be a nice reason to be able to challenge this Tom Hanks. Now that Tom Hanks we know from
the movies, does he get drunk and like to fuck kids or does he fuck kids because he likes to
fuck kids? I don't know. It's confusing to me. I don't know. Fuck you, Tom Hanks.
Buzzing buddies my ass. Not the one from Buzzing Bodies.
What's your cash code?
No, no, it's just so, so I, this is deep time on Cash Patel and this came up where he likes to
party apparently. Okay. And he likes to party more than likes to be an FBI agent and he was
given a speech and it almost sounds like he's a little jealous of his billionaire friends.
Although, is it he like a billionaire though?
I don't fucking know.
I don't know either. But yeah, so, so he likes to party, but there might be some
breaking news coming out about Cash Patel pretty soon. I don't know. We'll see.
I don't think so because the FC list is sealed in the basement of Mossad in Israel.
And it's never coming out.
No, it's not.
It's never coming out.
Elon Musk told you where the FC list is.
It's on, it's one of our bombers. You grew all the pages of the FC list to the bombers.
That plane's completely invisible. All right, let's get into this shit. We got to talk about it.
What is it?
The FC list. We talked about it last week a little bit, but breaking the more news that came out
and Trump has truthed his opinion.
To hoax. Democrat hoax. Jeff, there never was a Jeffrey Epstein. He was just made up out of
thin air by Obama.
I posted on X, you believe in Jeffrey Epstein?
Yeah, like what?
What the fuck dude?
So.
Fucking idiot.
So.
Why is Trump, okay, maybe you want to talk about a different tack, but why is Trump
like blowing himself up like that? What the fuck are you doing, Trump?
So he compared it to the Hunter Biden laptop.
So that was real.
It was real, but the Democrats said it was fake.
Oh, so okay, he's, but they were wrong.
True.
So he's comparing himself to Democrats who were wrong.
No, I think what he's saying is it's been altered and there's, there's people on there that didn't
really go to the FC line.
Oh, it's on him. He's talking about himself.
That's very possible.
Yeah, that's fucking good.
But I don't, that's not, that's not my theory.
Okay.
So what has, so on Monday, July 7th is when all this stuff shit started happening.
Okay.
He came out, he's like, a Pan Bandy is something like,
they went about, and Trump's like, who wants to know about him?
He was a creep. He died.
Let's forget about it.
Prior to that, that was not his opinion.
Right.
So what happened between prior to July 7th and July 7th?
The big beautiful bill had to get through the Senate.
Okay.
So was there some horse trading being done?
Don't release the FC files to evoke the big beautiful bill.
I guess something else to back this up with too.
But hold on. No, no, no.
Because if that's the deal you were making, well, why would, why would Trump just be so
vocal about it?
Right?
Just shut up.
Don't say anything.
Trump is, okay, I support Trump.
I wanted to do well.
One, I wanted to do well.
I wanted Biden to do well.
But Biden couldn't find the fucking, he couldn't find his shoes.
The only way for them to do well would be to say I quit and I have no successor.
And then you take over.
I disband the governments.
You're on your own, stopping a little bitch.
You don't need your mommy and daddy anymore.
Live your life.
Be free.
So you got Dave's world, which I actually think was a teenage show.
No, we're saying, we have reality.
But we're saying what would make, what would they have to do to make things better?
That's what they would have to do.
But we're gonna hang out in reality for a little bit.
Okay, then nothing can get better.
Right.
You keep saying, we want things to be better.
And then I say, well, this is how you do it.
And you say, but I live in reality.
Okay, then stop wanting things to get better.
Live in your reality where nothing will ever get better and pay your taxes to the IRS.
That's gonna arrest you.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so Trump has hired his entire presidency to this big, beautiful bill.
Right?
I mean, it was talked about.
So it had to pass the Senate.
The Senate, now keep in mind, the Senate
does not like Trump.
Okay.
And they fight him on every step.
So then he got a group of EPC9 visitors who are senators
to vote for his big, beautiful bill if he didn't release their names.
Just saying.
So, so there's that.
But what else happened on July 7th?
Oh, fucking hell.
We found out that we're gonna supply Ukraine with missiles.
Long range missiles that can hit Moscow.
So what's, if I ask you what senator wanted Ukraine to be, uh, mis, given missiles?
Uh, Mitch McConnell?
Uh, no, Lindsey Graham.
Graham Graham.
They're the same thing.
Right.
They're the same people.
So Lindsey Graham probably said, hey, I'll vote for the big, beautiful bill
if you give missiles to Ukraine.
And Trump probably went, well, I can't give missiles to Ukraine
because I'm against that.
And Lindsey Graham went, well, I'm not gonna vote for your big, beautiful bill
unless you give missiles to Ukraine.
And then they go, oh, wait a second.
What if we give missiles to Ukraine, but the UN pays for them?
And we can tell the American people that the UN is gonna pay for them.
So the American people are not gonna pay for them.
So fucking stupid.
Who funds the UN?
We do mostly.
Oh, wait, what?
Wait, not Germany, not France.
They spend like, like 2% of the UN total, whatever.
So.
Or less, or to 10% of the.
So we're giving missiles to Ukraine and we're paying for it?
Of course.
Well, that doesn't seem right.
So I think.
This is what you get when you have your big, beautiful piece of shit bill
that expands the debt by five.
It's a Democrat fucking bill.
No.
Yes, it is.
It like, Joe Biden could have had the same fucking bill on his desk
and he would have said, this is a great bill.
I love this bill.
I, I.
Yay, America, you know the thing.
I do believe the growth of the country
won't avoid all that bullshit.
I do.
No, it won't.
Okay.
There won't be any growth.
Okay, hold on.
When was the last time you had a surplus?
To, well, depends on how you define surplus, but possibly 92 or something.
Last month, maybe?
Now you, now you're, well, you said the surplus.
Yeah, surplus.
Last month was not a end of year date.
No, in the month we had a surplus.
Well, you didn't say that.
Oh.
You didn't say when's the last monthly surplus.
I didn't fucking know.
Last year, last month.
Okay, so what?
Okay.
They always have a fucking surplus right after that.
No, no.
Yes, they do.
There's every fucking April, March, April, May, they have a surplus.
What month do you think we're in?
We're in June.
We're in July.
Oh, welcome.
Welcome.
Hi.
How you doing?
We're in July.
Welcome to America.
They always have a surplus after tax day.
No, they do.
No, they have.
Look it up.
They have none of this.
I don't need to because I know it.
Because the only other time they had a surplus was a month when Trump was in office before
and prior to that was like the 19th.
No, no, it's not.
Purt me around.
If you're talking on a monthly basis, every single time tax pay passes, they have a surplus.
What's inflation at right now?
I don't fucking know.
0.7% because that's what it's at.
So who?
They.
Who's they?
Well, they.
They who?
You don't know who they is?
No.
You're the one making a claim.
They are the ones who say that we have...
I mean like...
Okay.
Inflation is way down.
They say it's...
Wait, is it still above zero?
0.0.
But it isn't above zero.
Yes.
So they think you're getting more expensive.
Well, with Biden it was like, what, 10, 12 was it right there?
Okay.
Yeah.
And now we're down to 0.0.
Something.
Okay.
That's a win.
That's probably because the Fed raised interest rates that Trump is not complaining about.
Well, first of all, they haven't raised interest rates.
No, they did.
But they...
In the past.
Like, when?
When inflation was at 10%.
Right.
So way back then.
So inflation is 10% and they say, oh fuck, we gotta raise interest rates.
They raise interest rates, the inflation starts coming down.
So you're not giving any credit to the tariffs?
No.
That can't...
Everybody else is.
Tariffs cannot make inflation go down.
Yes, it can.
But we can.
But we can't.
What would can?
Oh my God.
That does not make inflation go down.
What do you...
That could make the surplus happen potentially.
It doesn't make inflation go down.
Okay.
So we bring more money in.
Who says we're bringing more money in?
Tariffs don't mean we bring more money in.
Yes, it does.
No, it doesn't.
Even if I stop buying the product and you don't get any money at all.
Okay.
So the tariffs are working.
Whether you're pro-trump or anti-trump.
Define working.
They're bringing money into this country and the prices of the shelves are not good.
You're not bringing money into this country.
Yes, they are.
We pay the tariffs.
No, no.
Okay.
Exactly.
How?
When I pay at the grocery store.
Okay.
Just so you know, what product has gone up on the grocery store shelves?
I don't... I have no idea.
I don't fucking look at the product.
None.
Okay. So then which...
So the...
The grocery stores have tariffs?
Or which products have tariffs?
All products coming in from one of the countries has a certain percentage of tariffs
and it has not affected...
Okay.
So if an avocado costs a dollar and then they apply a 50% tariff on the avocado...
The new venture right now is painful.
Do you think the guy importing the avocado is just going to lose 50 cents?
Right now, yes.
That's what's happening.
No, they're not going to just lose 50 cents.
As of right now...
If you ran a business importing avocados,
are you just going to lose 50 cents at every sale?
Okay. So...
Are you just going to lose 50 cents?
Use that little box.
Yes or no?
Use your brain.
Stop talking about boxes.
Use your brain.
No. I'm using reality.
As of right now...
Are you going to take a 50 cent loss on every avocado?
Oh, here we go.
As of right now...
Why can't you answer me?
I'm trying to...
No, you're not.
I'm asking what you would do as a running...
Runner of a business.
I'm not an avocado salesman.
If you were...
Okay. As of right now...
Dude, why are you avoiding...
Why are you avoiding my question?
As of right now, it's not happening.
Why are you avoiding my question?
That is the answer to your question.
If you ran a business importing avocados...
Okay. If I...
Are you going to take a loss on every sale?
Apparently, if I...
Are you going to do that?
I don't run a business if it's an avocado.
Pretend that you do.
Use your big mammal brain and pretend that you live in a different situation.
What I'm telling you is, in your analogy,
the price of avocados have not went up and someone's paying the fucking tariff.
Who?
Well, okay. So you have an avocado on the shelf
and the price has not went up.
So you've got the retailer...
Well, so the retailer might absorb some of it.
The delivery guy might absorb some of it.
Why would they just take a loss?
Why would they...
They are.
Why would they lose money, Ron?
Why would they choose to lose money?
I don't know.
But they are.
They're not.
Jimmy, what...
You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about, Ron.
Dude, this is...
Do you know what an inventory is, Ron?
Yeah.
What's an inventory?
Stuff you have on the shelf.
Stuff you have in the...
Okay. How far in advance do you buy your inventory?
So it's funny you bring that up because the tariffs have been put in place back in the...
Can you just answer my fucking question and stop trying to have a discussion?
Answer my question.
How far in advance...
You have a canned answer.
How...
You have...
No, I'm asking you for a time frame, Ron.
So the only answer you can give me is a time frame.
How far in advance do you think people buy their inventory?
How long do you think they have a kind of last...
Just give me an answer, Ron.
Well, I...
Okay.
Six months.
Okay, so were the tariffs in effect six months ago?
No.
So they could have bought them at the old price six months ago?
Yeah.
So then they're still making a profit?
I just...
I just kind of like set you up there.
Okay.
How long does that have a kind of last?
If it in a freezer, it can last a long ass fucking time.
What about?
They're saying that the...
The tariffs should be up...
The price increase of the shelf should be in place by now because the tariffs and it's not...
Who's saying this?
Economists.
The price of the shelf!
The people that have been lying to you your whole life,
suddenly they're telling you the truth.
Even the CEO of Home Depot is just like,
Holy fuck, this is actually working.
He's anti-Trump.
He is so...
You're so clueless.
I'm clueless.
Yes.
Why did I bring the CEO of Home Depot for?
Who cares?
It's a very...
It's actually a very obvious question.
If you know anything about what's going on in the world right now,
whatever the CEO of Home Depot for,
who cares?
Why did I bring up...
Nope, nope.
Who cares?
I'm gonna be Dave now.
Just fucking answer the question.
The answer is who cares?
Who cares?
Why is the CEO of Home Depot important?
Who cares?
No!
Why, dumbass?
Who cares?
You're retarded.
Nobody cares.
It's by Dave impersonation.
Nobody cares.
The CEO of Home Depot is when the CEO's assigned a letter
back in the...
when Trump's first to be saying that he's not good at what he does,
he needs to be removed from office.
Okay.
Now he's like,
Holy shit, this shit's actually fucking working.
They get defined working.
The prices are not going up in the show.
Defined working.
Give me one product that the price went up in the show.
How can I possibly answer that right now sitting in your fucking room?
You have a laptop.
The laptop does not tell me the price six months ago and the price now.
If you go into the store and write prices down,
that's how you get that information.
If you told me six months ago,
hey Dave, go to Home Depot, write the prices down,
I would have done that and then we could look at the fucking prices.
So is this a fair assessment?
The media loves Trump.
No.
Oh wait, they don't?
No.
The media doesn't love Trump?
No.
What?
The media doesn't love Trump?
So what?
What the fuck?
So what?
Oh wait, so they would point out every fucking flaw in his administration.
Not necessarily.
So they love Trump?
No.
So they're pro Trump?
No, that's not...
Dude, you're making two different statements here.
Nobody has given a product on the shelf that has went up due to the tariffs.
Nobody.
Find one fucking product that has went up because of the tariffs.
We just talked about inventories, Ron.
How long does a tool of Home Depot last?
A screwdriver could last, we shall stay with it.
Oh, so then we shouldn't expect the tariffs prices to go down.
You started the avocados.
Okay, but you brought up Home Depot.
Okay, I brought Home Depot because the CEO.
Okay, but Home Depot has long lasting equipment.
Okay, so how many screwdrivers were made prior to the tariffs?
Billions!
What?
What's the beneficial to Home Depot's screwdriver?
What's what?
Who makes screwdrivers?
There's a bunch of them.
In Home Depot?
Yes, they sell like Huskies and Milwaukee's and all that shit.
So you think they made billions of screwdrivers?
Dude, yes, there's been billions of screwdrivers made.
All right, give me a specific time.
Like you just said before six months ago.
Yes, they've made billions of screwdrivers before six months ago.
The screwdriver was invented like 300 years ago.
Of course they've made billions since then.
Dude, during COVID we ran out of toilet paper like within a week.
No, we did not run out of toilet paper.
They fucking didn't put it on the shelves.
Oh, see, there's conspiracy theorists on that, which I agree with by the way.
And also like people would come in early and just buy it all immediately.
No, no, no.
Okay, I don't want to get dwell into toilet paper,
but by the time toilet paper was a concern,
every store had limits on what to buy.
Before we even knew there was a toilet paper shortage,
all the stores put limits on.
Really? Because they were obviously seeing it?
It was fake. No, it was fake.
It was fake?
Yeah.
Dude, stores don't do that because they'll lose money.
To put on paper, the government was backing their money.
The stores were noticing people come in at five in the morning
and buy all the toilet paper and they said,
yeah, we better do something about this.
Oh, bullshit.
You always say yourself, but now you're changing the story.
But let's go back to food.
It's a mix.
Food is not shelf stable for six months.
Yes, it's not shelf stable.
Freezer stable.
Okay, so all the avocados have been frozen?
Yes, of course.
Really, okay, when you buy a thing of avocados,
listen to me, Ron, when you buy a fucking bag of avocados,
on that bag will be picked on date.
And if you read that date, it's six months ago.
What do you think about that?
It just happened to me six months ago.
Well, it's an example.
You could have said like a year ago.
Okay, well, I don't know.
It's like five years ago.
It's not that long.
It don't last for five years.
You freeze them, why wouldn't they?
Because even a freezer can't last forever.
Why not?
Because it damages.
It's frozen.
No, the ice crystals damage the structure of the avocados.
Well, Disney's brain is in a frozen state.
Yeah, it's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
And we're going to thaw it out and sell it.
It's not going to work.
And we're going to have all new cartoons.
You could maybe do that with specialized freezers,
but then those are more expensive.
Oh, dude, how you want them?
Okay, all I'm saying is the economists are actually
starting to come around and saying the tariffs
are actually working.
Everybody except you.
You keep saying working, Ron,
but you can't tell me what working means.
The price is not going up on the show.
That does not mean a tariff has worked.
That means it hasn't done something.
It doesn't mean it's worked.
What's the purpose of a tariff?
So that's picture the gas prices.
No, no, what's the purpose of a tariff?
To increase the...
Can you lend more money?
Why the fuck would you use that for a tariff?
Like, that's not what Trump thought the tariffs before.
Yeah, it is.
Trump's think the tariffs are to bring
manufacturing back home.
He's turned on revenue.
So, well, no.
He said we're going to manufacture shit in here
or they're going to have to go through the external revenue service.
Right, so he thinks the purpose of a tariff
is to bring manufacturing back.
But it's not doing that.
Hold on.
That hasn't worked.
Hold on.
So we're driving down the road and we go get gas.
399 gallon.
We drive on down the road.
We drive around for a couple days.
Oh, shit.
There's something going on in the Middle East.
Israel bomb, somebody else.
Israel bomb, an oil field.
I...
Shit, I need gas.
499 for gas.
Okay.
It goes up the same fucking day.
Yet they bought the gas weeks ago.
But yet they raised the price of the gas immediately.
So the avocado mob hasn't figured this out.
The grocery stores haven't figured this out.
Shit is a little bit more complicated than that.
Oh, Jesus.
So you can't...
So gas stations, depending on where you are,
can raise prices and get away with it, right?
So if you're in the middle of nowhere...
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about in a city, in an urban...
But those go up slower.
No, they don't.
Yes, they do.
They do not.
Yes, they do.
Because of their competition.
There is an instant jet.
Yeah, because it's collusion.
Dude, it goes up...
Then where's the avocado collusion, Ron?
Because they...
Where's the avocado collusion?
It's done.
Why?
Because they can't do it.
Of course they can.
Anybody can do it.
You just get together and say,
hey, we're going to raise the price of avocados.
Trump put down...
Everyone's going to go,
ugh, I like guac.
Right, exactly.
That's why they can't do that with avocados.
But the price is just too much for guac.
That's why they can't do that with avocados,
because avocados are a luxury.
Because avocados are working.
No, because avocados are a luxury.
And gas is a necessity.
Yes, so that means the tariffs are working.
No, it doesn't mean that they're working.
Yes, it does.
It means that it takes longer for the price rise to show up.
Stupid.
Every economist, even there was a hate Trump right now...
Dude, I don't care what fucking mainstream economists say,
they're all dumb.
They're all dumb as fucking rich.
Oh, I knew that.
I'll figure it out.
I don't got everything figured out.
Dude, you gotta...
But I know that these people don't know
what the fuck they're talking about.
Okay.
Every single one of these people said in 2007,
the economy's fine, housing is fine.
Keep buying housing.
Not everyone.
Right, the ones that didn't say that agree with me.
We'll see.
I guess we're going to have this argument in,
what, two more months, three more months?
Okay, I go to the store and write down the fucking price of things.
Because I don't want to deal with this.
Oh, go look it up.
Because they're lying.
On this box, they're all fucking lying with the price's worth.
You gotta fucking take a picture of yourself.
The media will not say anything to make Trump look good.
No, it's definitely...
Even seeing it is struggling.
Because here's a fucked up thing.
And this pisses me off, be honest with you.
The Republicans are still...
Trump's numbers are still going up in support of Trump,
even after the bombing that I ran, and the FC Debacle.
His numbers are still...
His percentage point's still going up.
First seeing it, I don't know it either.
I don't agree with it.
It shouldn't be.
We need to punish him so he realizes he's wrong,
and he can self-correct.
But it's not fucking happening.
So I agree with you that they would
hammer the economy if that were doing something.
Okay, I agree with you on that.
They got nothing on him.
But there are things that they will not criticize Trump for.
We had a surplus...
There are things that they will not criticize Trump for.
I want to make that clear.
So I just want to be clear.
You think they'll jump on anything, but they won't.
In June, in June, this country had a surplus.
Like we do every middle year.
That is not true.
The last surplus was 2016.
The last multi surplus was 2016.
No, it's not.
I guarantee you they're doing what's called
seasonal adjustments to that shit, to negate...
The tax day income.
If you look at the raw numbers, every tax day there's a surplus.
Okay, so this April or May?
Well, no, they moved it back.
The fuck you...
I'm supposed to pay my taxes, I don't pay them on April 15.
They might have moved it back again, but they extended it to June, I think.
They're giving credit to the tariffs.
Even the people that hate Trump.
Well, they're fucking retarded.
Oh, even the people that really want Trump...
You even agree they're retarded.
We had a surplus, and that's never happened in the last nine years.
And the only reason it happened nine years ago is because Trump was in office back then.
No.
And prior to that...
I guarantee you, find the chart you're looking at, and look for the star that says
seasonally adjust the numbers.
Right there, just...
No, no, you're the one making the claim, so you gotta show the fucking numbers.
No, I didn't say no perfect guilty.
No, you made the claim, you made the claim, you showed the number.
You show your source, because your source is bullshit.
One, I have the camera up here, and I got taxes up here.
I don't care.
Do it in your own...
Have access to the computer right now.
Do it as homework.
I don't give a fuck.
No.
Because you're wrong.
I'm right.
You're not right.
Right.
Every tax year, a fucking ton of money comes in.
Right.
How do you think taxes work?
I don't have...
Right after you...
How do you think taxes work, Ron?
Right.
Ron, how do you think taxes work?
They steal our money.
Right when?
Well, actually all throughout the year.
For most of us, yeah.
No, do you...
Okay, do you know this?
If you owe money on April 15th, you get penalized
if you have not paid in every quarter.
Yes.
Okay?
No, it's not if you owe.
It's regardless.
You get a penalty.
If you did not report quarterly, right?
If you don't owe, what would you pay in?
No, you wouldn't necessarily pay in.
You would have to report your estimated quarterly taxes owed.
So what you're saying is April 15th is like big money flood.
It is.
But yeah, everyone who pays quarterly...
Because you still pay the year-end shit at the end of the year.
So like, your quarterlies are just estimates.
Because you don't know what's going to happen
at the end of the year.
Come on, accompany people.
Dude, that's how it fucking works.
Okay.
I mean, like, look up the raw income numbers.
In Dave's world, a lot of...
Look up the raw income numbers.
I guarantee you, you're going to see what I'm talking about.
I make a statement, you proved me wrong.
No, that's not how it works, Ron.
Yeah.
You make a statement, you show data.
I told you the data.
No, you didn't.
Show me your data.
Give me one prime...
No, no, no, not give you.
You show me the data.
I made the claim.
Right.
So you show the data.
Oh.
If you don't show the data, your claim is garbage.
Nope.
That's what I said.
Okay, you're wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
This is not how it works, Ron.
I'm right.
Ron.
From your wrong...
If this were a quarter of a while, you would have lost already.
Nope.
Wouldn't I win?
You would lose already.
I win.
Let's ask the viewers.
If the viewers say you're full of shit, then you're full of shit.
I'm sorry, what?
I fell asleep.
We're going to ask the viewers, when someone makes a claim, who puts the date up,
and then when they say it's you, then you have to go on and apologize next week.
No, if you're...
No, no, no.
If you want to prove it wrong...
That's the deal, Ron.
If you want me to do your fucking homework for you, we're going to agree to this.
You can't be proven wrong.
Ron.
If you want me to shut the fuck up so I can get a sentence out, Ron.
If you want me to do your homework for you, then you're going to agree
that we ask our chat room who proves their own claims.
And if they say you, you have to apologize to all of our viewers and listeners.
Okay, I make a claim.
That's the deal, Ron.
I'm sorry.
Take it or leave it, Ron.
That's the deal.
Okay, if you don't take it, then you're wrong.
Move on.
Your data does not stand.
You're wrong.
So what promise is we're up in the shelves again?
That's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about monthly income on taxes.
We're talking about surpluses, Ron.
I thought we heard about tariffs.
We're talking about surpluses in the budget.
Okay.
You know, month by month, face to face.
I just want to know what product has went up due to the tariffs.
Well, you didn't tell me six months ago to go and ticket the prices.
You don't think people track that shit?
Who's tracking it that's honest?
Who's tracking it that we can trust?
Because you didn't tell me to go do it.
If I went and did it, then you could trust my fucking answers.
You could have done it.
Trust me, I think you said it.
You could have gone and done it, but you didn't.
You keep trusting the government statisticians to do it.
And then they keep lying to you.
My grocery bill is cheaper.
Mine's not.
When I go to after eating restaurants, my bill is cheaper.
Mine's not.
I'm paying the same.
Really?
Yes.
What the fuck?
Dude, you live like a block off the strip.
Now, you keep contradicting yourself, Ron.
You said that inflation came in at 0.0 something.
Yeah.
Now you're saying my groceries are cheaper.
It can't be both.
Which one is it?
What?
You said inflation was 0.0 something.
Okay.
Now you're saying your groceries are cheaper.
Yes.
That's not how that works, Ron.
That's not how math works.
It sure does.
No, it isn't.
0% inflation means you're paying the same thing you are.
The same thing you were six months ago.
That's not true.
Yes, it is.
Inflation is a measure in the rise of prices.
If inflation is 0, prices have stayed the fucking same.
Oh, look, you got 2.67%.
You're still full of shit.
Okay, so this is 2.6.
Well, first of all, let's go back.
It's not 9 or 10.
But what is the date of this compared to 2.35 from last month,
2.97 from last year, US inflation rate.
So you're paying more for things?
So don't fucking tell me your groceries are down.
Oh, wait, wait.
Now you literally just change your argument.
What did I change?
Because...
I said your groceries are not down.
You're full of shit.
They are.
No, they're not.
It's right here on your own fucking numbers.
They're up 2.67%.
First of all, I literally just typed into Google.
This is not my numbers.
Okay, but this is what you believe in.
This is where you get your info.
This and CatTurD.
Well, CatTurD says it's all about your time.
CatTurD said my grocery bill went down.
So I guess it went down.
I'm not going to check my own receipts.
CatTurD said so.
So when I said my grocery bill is down, you're now trying to like...
Show me the receipts.
Do the red herring.
Show me the receipts.
I don't say receipts.
Then why?
How do you know it's down?
You didn't even look.
I know what you're saying.
You just feel it.
You feel that Trump's doing a good job.
You feel the tariffs are working.
So you say that the grocery bill went down.
So in June, so I wonder what July's inflation rate is right now.
Because they don't tell you that.
They don't tell you until the official number comes out next month.
They keep their estimates secret.
I mean, I'll just look at this a little bit more.
You're so full of shit.
Well, okay, first of all...
Your prices are going down.
Yes, they are.
No, they're not.
Gas prices are going down.
I haven't looked lately.
Wait, what?
Gas prices are too volatile.
But our gas prices down though.
Down compared to what?
Just say yes because we know they are.
Down compared to what?
What they were six months ago.
What they were a year ago.
I don't fucking know.
No, actually a year ago.
Again, you didn't tell me, here Dave,
right the price, right by the price gas down.
You don't remember the gas prices were up?
No, how the fuck would I know what the price was six months ago?
I didn't know you were so wealthy that you just like,
I don't care what the price is.
Yeah, I filled up the tank.
Okay.
Like, good for you, man.
Yes, good for me.
What the fuck, man?
Like, you're not going to find any numbers
that justify what you're saying.
I don't need to.
Yes, you do because you keep saying you should.
Reality.
You keep saying the tariffs are doing great.
They're not doing great.
Yes.
Show me.
They're not doing horrible.
To be what?
I'll give you that.
They're not doing horrible yet.
Oh, the real thing.
But they're not doing great.
They're not working.
What example of them not doing great?
Well, to find great, 2.7% inflation.
That's not great.
Great would be we have less than zero inflation.
Prices come down.
That's great.
Okay, so now you're, you're about tariffs or inflation?
You're the one who connected the two.
No, I did not.
Yes, you did.
No, I made 2.7%.
Yes, you fucking did.
I made 2.7%.
It's on the fucking camera.
Who, what are you talking about?
I made two separate statements.
No, you didn't.
Inflation is way down.
You said we know the tariffs are working
because inflation is down.
I never said that.
Yes, you did.
It's on the fucking camera.
I would find out, we will aim that.
It's on the camera, Ron.
Okay.
So, inflation is down, and it is.
That's a true statement.
Whether it's zero points of which I heard today,
I need to verify that, apparently,
because it's saying so.
So, okay, so here's what's going on.
No, no, let me explain what you're hearing,
because you're right on both of those numbers.
Okay.
So, the zero point, whatever, is the month-to-month number.
Okay.
And the 2.7 is an annualized extension.
Okay.
Yeah, so that's what's going on.
Possibly.
Okay.
So, I'm just explaining how it works.
So, you agree that inflation on a month-to-month basis is zero percent?
Well, I don't know what the exact number is,
but it can't be zero because...
No, zero point something.
Okay, it could be zero point nine or zero point...
Right.
So, there's...
Well, that's pretty bad.
Can't they...
Can you...
Can you analyze that?
That's 2.7 percent.
Compare the Biden's inflation numbers.
And dude, like, you can't just start bringing up...
Oh, but Biden...
But Biden...
No, we're talking about Trump and his tariffs.
Stay on topic, Ron.
The tariffs are not reducing your prices.
Okay.
So, I'm saying the tariffs might be helping inflation.
Sure, I'm gonna go this route.
No, inflation came down before the tariffs
were ever even talked about.
Why?
Because they raised the interest rates.
Because we talked about this like two shows ago.
The interest rate tells you how much money they're raising.
So, during Biden's...
Biden's...
How many times they raised the...
I don't know if I can remember.
And how many times did inflation go up?
Inflation kept going up and they kept raising the interest rates.
Under Biden.
How do you...
That's not how it happened.
That's how it worked.
No.
That's what happened.
The inflation rate kept going up.
And then it got to here.
And then they started raising the rates.
And the inflation rate kept going up.
Yeah, because it takes time to fucking react.
How fucking dover you?
Oh my God, you're a Democrat.
You are a Democrat.
Dude, that's how that works.
This is so...
That's literally how math works.
You dumbass.
So, you're giving Biden...
Robin.
I know.
Nope.
Are you giving Biden...
When you pressed the accelerator in your car...
Are you giving Biden credit for this?
No, Biden didn't do that.
Fucking...
The Fed raised the interest rates.
Okay, so you're giving Jorrell Powell.
I mean, not...
Okay, so I'm giving him enough credit
to understand the basic math of...
So, you support Jorrell...
You support Jorrell Powell
not lowering the interest rates right now.
I support Jorrell Powell firing himself
and letting the markets set the interest rates.
Because I don't know what the interest rate should be.
Neither does Jorrell Powell.
How many times has Jorrell Powell lowered their interest rate
since in 2025?
I don't know.
Who cares?
Five.
Who cares what Jorrell Powell does?
Jorrell Powell, how many times have he done it?
Who cares, Ron?
Why are you arguing about Jorrell Powell?
Do you... Go live in Jorrell Powell, you dumbass.
It's the only example that I have.
Go live in Jorrell Powell.
Give up your air conditioning.
Give up your cars.
Go live in Europe.
You want to follow Europe?
Give up your car to your air conditioning.
How?
Do that math for me.
You're the one who's promoting Europe.
Two plus two equals no car.
You're the one who's promoting Europe, Ron.
You think Europe is great.
They have no cars.
Most people don't have a car in Europe.
They have no AC.
Nobody has an AC in Europe.
So France and Germany...
No, we don't have AC.
There's just no cars.
How do you not know this?
Well, okay.
Do you know in America there are certain states
that don't have AC?
Okay.
Which cities are those?
Well, why would you know that?
Because I don't go to those cities.
Why not?
Because they don't have AC.
Seattle is very low on AC.
Yeah, there are a bunch of leftists.
So go live like them.
You want to fucking fed to print more money.
The climate doesn't denote that.
It doesn't dictate the AC.
You want to fed to print more money.
That's what it's come down to.
Like, you want...
No.
You know, Trump wants it to.
What?
He wants to lower the interest rate.
That means print more money.
We went over to how this works.
You went over...
Dave's world have this shit.
That's how it literally fucking works, Ron.
Whatever.
I don't understand how much dumber you got to be.
That is how the system works.
If you go to the Fed and go on a fucking visitor tour
and stick your hand up and say,
how does that work?
And how does this...
They're going to tell you exactly what I fucking told you.
Are they?
Yes.
That's how the Fed works.
Interest rates are tied to how much money they print.
So, when the interest rates go down,
which they're going to...
That means you're printing more money.
And when you print more money, you have more inflation.
I won't look into that because I don't...
I get a show on it.
You've done that.
It doesn't make you right.
But I am right.
That is literally how it works.
That's how anyone will tell you how it works.
So...
Any banker, any Fed chairman,
they'll all tell you that's how it works.
So, what's going to happen when the interest rates go down?
Eventually, the inflation is going to come down.
No, no.
What's going to instantly happen when the interest rates go down?
I have no fucking idea.
I'm asking.
You don't have?
I have no fucking idea.
The House of America is going to explode.
You don't know that?
I can guarantee that.
You cannot guarantee anything, Ron.
I can guarantee it.
If you could guarantee it...
Ron.
If you could guarantee it...
Shut the fuck up and listen, Ron.
Ron.
You just let your piece let me say my piece.
But it's...
If you could guarantee something was going to happen,
then everybody would already be invested in it
and then it wouldn't happen.
The interest rates have not gone down yet.
You would buy early in the anticipation of your guaranteed scenario.
You would date the rate.
I get it.
Yeah, sure.
So, that's why it doesn't work.
You can't do what you're talking about.
But people don't trust your own pal.
Okay.
He can't be fired.
He's got another year, almost a year left
for his tenure.
Okay.
If so, if Trump can't get him fired through the courts,
are initially going to say hi.
Okay.
So, no one's going to date the rate.
Then we'll have your low inflation.
No one's going to...
Then you'll have your low inflation.
Hold on.
No one's going to date the rate right now.
No one's going to do it because they don't know when to draw a problem.
Okay.
If Trump is successful in the courts to get him fired,
the housing market is going to fucking explode.
I'll bet you that right now.
What do you want to bet?
And then in relation...
What do you want to bet?
What is a component of the inflation number?
What do you want to bet?
Is housing a component of the inflation number?
It's only being spent.
Right.
Is housing a component of the inflation number?
I would think everything is...
Okay.
So, if housing goes up, then inflation goes up.
Okay.
Then you'll be complaining about inflation.
I don't believe that to be true.
It is true.
You just said it yourself.
You said the housing prices will go up.
Right.
So, how...
Then inflation will go up.
How is that...
Because housing prices are a part of inflation.
How is that going to...
Cause inflation to go up.
Holy fuck, Ron.
Inflation means prices go up.
Housing prices go up.
That's inflation.
The value of a house goes up.
What's the value of a house?
It's what it sells at.
The value of a house is what it sells at.
We'll see.
You're so stupid.
You just prove your own case.
Nope, we won't.
Yes, you did.
Okay.
You just said you bet inflation will go up.
I'm not good right now.
What do you...
What number do you want to get the inflation right now?
I don't.
I don't play these stupid games.
I don't play these stupid games, Ron.
You just said inflation will go up.
If what you're talking about...
From what?
If they lower the rates...
No, no, shut the fuck up.
If they lower the rates...
Shut the fuck up.
They're printing more money which causes inflation, Ron.
That's the answer for your dumbass question.
When you print money inflation goes up.
What is the inflation rate right now?
I don't know.
It's a little or two.
You pick it.
I don't care.
You pick it.
I don't know.
You pick it.
Nobody knows.
They're all lying.
So, when the interest rates go down,
and I believe they'll be going up soon...
When inflation goes up...
...so you think it's going to go up from one.
From the money that's being printed to make the inflation...
...the interest rates go down.
To make interest rates go down,
you must print money.
That's the only way to do it.
It's not a guy fucking standing there saying,
okay, the interest rates are down.
That's not how it works.
They print money.
That's what makes the interest rate go down.
Okay.
So, inflation is a what number?
I don't know.
Pick a number.
Zero to two.
I don't know.
It's all lies.
Okay.
So, okay.
So, how can we quantify what I say and what you say?
I say interest rates go down.
Housing prices go up.
And the housing prices blow up.
You say something magical or weird is going to happen.
Ron, housing prices going up is inflation going up.
Oh my God.
What don't you get about this?
The food prices go up.
Then inflation goes up.
Housing prices go up.
No, that's not what I ask you.
If housing prices go up, does the gas prices go up?
It will.
Does the food prices go up?
It will.
Okay.
So, that's what you want to stand on.
Ron.
Ron, listen.
Fucking listen.
I'm explaining to you and you keep fucking interrupting me.
Shut up and listen.
When the house price goes up and you sell your house,
you now get a giant bundle of cash.
And what do you do with that cash?
You go spend it.
And when you spend it, the prices for those things go up.
So, if you sell your house and you get a bundle of cash,
and what do you typically spend it on?
Food.
Gas.
Maybe another house.
Oh my god, you're so stupid.
Wait, what?
Somebody takes that money and buys food and gas with it.
It's not just all fucking houses.
Oh, dear god.
How are you this fucking dumb?
I'm shocked.
When you print money.
You sound like you're drunk.
Inflation goes up, Ron.
When you print money, inflation goes up.
Who's saying you're not getting this?
Who's saying you're print money?
That's what it means to lower the interest rate.
Okay.
We'll say.
I explained.
I did a whole fucking show on this.
It doesn't make you right.
To ask any fucking banker, Ron, this is how it works.
Why do you choose to stay ignorant?
I told you how it works.
If you don't believe me, why didn't you ask an expert
to explain it to your dumb ass?
I don't need to.
Yes, you do because you keep saying these stupid things.
So, I'm going to be clear.
When the interest rates go down, housing's going to go up,
and you're saying that we're going to print more money.
No, I'm saying we print more money to cause the interest rate to go down,
and then that printed money causes the prices to go up.
So, okay.
So, the tariffs.
What are the tariffs still?
It's a tax.
No.
What?
It's a tax.
On who?
Dude.
No, no, no.
This is going to be stupid.
On the import of goods.
Okay.
Who gets that money?
Who gets what money?
The tariff money.
The governments.
Oh, okay.
So, they get influx of cash.
Okay.
So, they may not need to print money because they have an influx of new cash coming in?
That's...
Dude, you're talking about changing the interest rates.
Yes.
You can't change the interest rate with tax money coming in.
Why not?
Because that's not where the interest rate comes from.
Okay, so, okay.
The interest rate is the rate on bonds.
Okay, let me break this down to a kindergarten level.
We need...
That's all you understand, apparently.
No, apparently you.
So, we need...
Okay, but I can explain a bond at a college level and you don't get it.
But you want to talk kindergarten run.
I explained a bond to you at a college level and you don't fucking get it.
Oh, dear God.
You don't.
If you take a college course about bonds, they will teach you what I taught you.
And you don't fucking get it.
Okay, so we...
So, don't fucking talk about education levels to me.
So, here's the crayon version of what I'm saying.
Which is what all you understand.
For you.
You're the one who needs the crayon version.
So, if the interest rates go down by one point, how much money do we have to print?
I showed you a fucking equation.
No, I'm not.
Right.
Ron, I showed you an equation.
It does that.
So, use your equation and tell me how much money we have to...
I'm not going to waste my fucking time playing your games, Ron.
What if we broke that money and on tariffs?
Pretend it's a trillion dollars.
That's not how it works.
It's exactly how it works.
That's not how it works, Ron.
That is not how it works.
That money is already floating around in the economy, Ron.
We have a bastard.
Ron, the money from the tariffs is already floating around in the economy.
It's owned by you and me and other private individuals.
The tariffs send that money to the governments.
It just takes our money by theft and gives it to the government.
That does not lower interest rates.
It cannot lower interest rates.
Interest rates are above the total amount of money in the economy.
I'm actually working at a different angle right now.
I'm not at interest rates yet.
Because you're jumping around.
You're never going to get there.
I'm drawing.
I'm drawing this picture.
You're never going to get there.
So we need to bring in a trillion dollars.
Okay, fine.
For what?
To do what?
Well, we lower interest rates.
So we have to raise, we have to print a trillion dollars.
By lowering interest rates, you've already printed a trillion dollars.
Okay.
What if we don't print the trillion dollars?
Then you can't lower interest rates.
What if it comes in from another source?
Then you don't lower interest rates.
Okay, we'll see.
Well, I don't, we don't need to see.
I showed you how it works, Ron.
What else don't you fucking get?
Where do you think the interest rate comes from?
We'll see.
Where does the interest rate come from, Ron?
It's based on the success of the country.
No, it's not.
That's what Jerome Powell is saying right now.
Oh, you believe Jerome Powell, he's not lying to you.
The guys never lied to you, right?
He is saying I cannot lower interest rates
because I don't believe the economy is state.
Right, but I'm asking you, how does he lower interest rates, Ron?
I'm asking you, where the rate comes from?
I didn't ask you why he's choosing to not do it.
I asked you where the rate comes from.
Okay.
Where does it come from, Ron?
In games world?
No, where do you think it comes from?
Okay, again, I've already been...
Just answer the question.
Where do you think the interest rate comes from?
Maybe less talky.
You're not answering.
I've already said it.
No, you haven't.
Where does it come from?
Oh, dear God.
Where does it come from, Ron?
Where does it come from?
Where does what come from?
Where does the interest rate come from?
What interest rate?
How is the interest rate set?
You believe in interest rates?
How is the interest rate set, Ron?
What?
How is the interest rate set?
Interest rates.
Answer the question.
What, buddy?
Quit being retarded, Ron.
This is why I call you retarded.
You can't have a discussion.
Because you don't fucking listen.
You can't have a discussion.
I'm trying to listen.
You won't answer.
Okay.
Where does the interest rate come from?
The proof will be the proof.
Where does the interest rate come from?
So, drone power will probably be of a job
within 30 to 30 days.
Where does the interest rate come from, Ron?
No, no.
I'm asking you a simple fucking question.
Where does the interest rate come from?
The Federal Reserve.
How do they do that?
Magic.
This is why you're retarded.
You think it's magic.
You can't give me a serious answer.
You don't know.
Because you won't fucking listen to me.
You won't answer.
Try to answer.
Please try to fucking answer.
Don't tell me I won't listen
when you haven't tried to answer.
You never shut the fuck up.
I'm gonna be a fucking talker.
Because I can tell you what you're not answering
and I interrupt you.
Answer me.
Where does the interest rate come from?
You're not a serious person.
I want to say.
Where does the interest rate come from, Ron?
Magic.
Okay.
This is why you're retarded.
Okay.
Thank you.
You're retarded.
You believe in magic.
Sure.
So, so...
Do you want to give a serious answer?
No.
Why?
Because within the next two months...
Because you're retarded.
The interest rate's gonna go down.
Because you don't know, Ron.
Just say you don't know.
No.
The interest rate will be going down.
You can't get past your fucking ego
and say Dave, I don't know.
I have no idea how it works.
Please educate me.
And then I would say,
I already did educate you two shows ago
and I even gave you that little paper bond
for you to take home and put on your wall
so you can remind yourself
and you probably threw it out
and you'll never know.
So, you threw it over there.
Okay.
So, in two months,
the city interest rates go down.
Okay.
And they don't print money.
That's not how it works.
You can't, the rate can't go down
without printing money.
Okay.
That's the only way to change the rate
is you print money or don't print money.
Hold on.
Let's see what AI says.
How do you not fucking know this?
Because you're wrong.
I'm not wrong.
How do you think they set the interest rates?
You haven't given me a fucking answer.
I'm dealing with...
Yes, I have.
No, you haven't.
You're too fucking stubborn.
You have not.
I'm not.
You said magic.
So, I'm done.
You said magic.
I said other stuff earlier.
You've never given me a serious fucking answer
you've never tried to.
I did.
No, you didn't.
You keep trying to change the fucking subject.
How do they physically change the interest rate, Ron?
How does it happen?
You see, you don't know.
I do.
You don't.
Because you can't even attempt to answer.
I can't even give you my answer.
No, you haven't.
Yes, I have.
No, you haven't, Ron.
If anybody can tell me what Ron thinks his answer is,
fucking no one monero to you.
No, a decrease in interest rates doesn't directly
necessity printing more money.
Oh, yeah, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said.
Then how do they do it, Ron?
How do they lower the interest rates?
Why, lower interest rates can be,
can encourage borrowing and spending,
lending to increase in the money supply, though.
So, it almost sounds like they're,
Ron.
It almost sounds like they're saying,
How do you think they lower the interest rates?
Just tell me.
Okay, tariffs.
How does that lower the interest rates?
Bringing in money.
What's that?
I've already said.
How does that lower the interest rates?
Well, you're wrong already.
How does that lower the interest rates?
No, I'm not wrong.
AI is wrong.
AI repeats dumbasses like you.
Okay.
How do they lower the interest rate by bringing in,
how does the tariff bring in money?
Lower the interest rate.
How does that do that?
It is July 17th right now.
Is that the, that's true.
That's true.
Great. How do they lower the interest rate with Tariff, Ron?
How can the tariff lower the interest rates?
Why did you take AI offer there for?
Because it proved you're wrong?
No, because it's not on the show.
How does that, how do they lower the interest rate without
pretty money, Ron?
How does the tariff do that?
How does it do that?
Brings in money.
How does that lower the interest rates?
That money was already in the economy, Ron.
It shows a statement.
Ron, that money was already in the economy.
That money was already in the economy.
We were spending it amongst each other.
I was just trying to give you an answer.
No you didn't.
You cut me off with your fucking loud, low, hard mouth.
You didn't try to give an answer.
When the economy is good and the country is successful,
the interest rates will go down.
And that's what's going to happen.
It's not how the Fed sets an interest.
How does the Fed set the interest rate?
Tell me the act the Fed does to make the interest rate change.
Interest rates go down by a quarter point.
That's not how they do it, Ron.
That's exactly what the point is.
They cannot just dictate interest rates like you're talking about.
That is not how it works.
We'll see.
The rate is set by selling bonds.
And when you sell bonds, you print money.
Okay, when you sell bonds, you bring money into the economy.
No, you print money into the economy.
Okay, so if you do tariffs, that money is already there.
Where?
Amongst us.
You and me have that money.
That's not how it works.
Yes it is, Ron.
Where is it supposed to come from?
I pay it to the sale.
There's the grocery store.
The grocery store pays it to the importer.
The importer pays it to the governments.
Okay, the proof is going to come in the next couple of months.
You don't want to talk to them.
I don't care what happens in the next couple of months.
Do you, okay?
That has nothing to do with how interest rates are set.
How much money have we printed so far this year?
I don't fucking know.
How much money did we print last year?
I don't fucking know.
Why do you think I keep a tab on every little dollar they print?
What?
No, but you can't figure it out?
Of course I can figure it out.
It's on the website.
I showed you on the fucking show I did about it,
that you didn't pay a fucking attention to.
I did.
Then why don't you know this yet?
I don't necessarily agree with you.
Then why didn't you go do your own fucking research and say,
oh, I don't like the way Dave said this.
I think he's wrong.
Let me go research.
You don't ever fucking learn anything.
You don't try to learn anything.
That's what your real problem is.
You think you want me, I want to learn something from you?
Is that what I just said?
Dude.
Is that what I just said, right?
Is that what I just said?
Yes or no?
July 17th.
Is that what I just said?
See, you're doing it again.
What was that?
You're telling me I said something I didn't say.
You said, do you think I want to learn something from you?
Is that what I said?
You said you've never learned anything from me.
That's not what I said.
Yes it is.
No, it's not.
Roll the fucking tape back and go see that's not what I said.
I said, if you disagreed with the show I did,
you could have went and did your own fucking research.
That is one thing you said yes.
But you didn't.
But you also said you never learned from what I said.
You didn't do your own research.
I did it last on this drill weeks ago.
You didn't do your own research.
You never do your own research.
What did I do?
You don't fucking care to learn.
I don't.
So then don't bitch that I call you retarded.
What was my training session two weeks ago?
Two weeks ago?
I don't remember.
You don't fucking listen?
Yes.
What do you fucking retarded?
What are you stupid?
Do you not want to learn?
Oh, you gotta cheat.
Firework safety.
You gotta cheat.
You talked about firework safety.
You gotta cheat.
It's not cheating.
It is.
Dude, you're talking about knowing the order that you did things
versus knowing the things that you talked about.
It's not the fucking same thing, Ron.
I didn't ask you what I did two weeks ago.
I said, do you remember the show about the fucking interest rate?
This is very heavy.
Trump is in court right now to fire Jerome Powell.
Okay, fine.
Okay.
So whether he fires Jerome Powell or not, the interest rates go down.
Which means you print money.
You're going to be the proof to me that we print money.
Yes.
Okay.
That's all I want to know.
All right.
What do you got for this week?
Holy fuck.
We'll see.
All right.
Let's give away money because I'm pissed off.
This will be some fun.
Give it a calm us down a little bit.
Um, you doubt.
Last week we had a big yellowy show just like this week, apparently.
And we forgot to give the challenge on the show.
So I made one up afterwards.
And I asked you to tell me whether you think cloud seeding is influencing the weather
and explanation.
So not just yes or no, but oh good.
Give me the reason.
Okay.
So we had the first one came in from mental atrophy.
New guy.
Okay.
And he says obviously the flooding is a conspiracy by big cloud to make Trump look bad.
So joke answers are allowed.
Yeah, I love it.
But we do realize right now, Texas, New Mexico, Texas, Florida, New Jersey and New York
are having torrential downpours right now.
I mean, that doesn't, this second, but the last couple of hours.
That doesn't mean the cloud seeding good.
Next is Monero Mash.
A solely responsible no, but I think it's helping.
I did some research after the episode in red, Texas has used cloud seeding since the mid-20th
century to combat droughts.
Natural geographic.
So apparently it's a little bit older than we thought it was.
I, okay.
Next up is Al McGuest.
So you were wrong about cloud seeding.
That's all I heard.
But okay, that's cool.
I just thought it was relatively new.
I didn't give a date.
I think.
But you just said that it's what's older than we thought it was.
So you were wrong.
Okay, that's cool.
We can move on.
We were.
You mean you were?
No, I've noticed that.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
If I asked you to give a date, you would have been like, oh, 19.
I probably would have said the 60s or 70s.
Okay, sure you would have.
No, I would have.
You would have now that he said that.
No, no, no, no.
I got my research on it.
No, no.
Next is Al McGuest.
Floods happen all the time.
Cloud seeding is not a probable cause for flooding until we have legit evidence that
it's contributing.
Okay, so I'm going to address this one.
The Texas flood that killed all those kids, that was obviously July 4th.
Back in like 87, 88, 89, they had a very similar flood.
Okay.
That killed, I believe it didn't kill as many people, but it affected a lot of people.
But the CEO of a cloud seeding company came out and said, we work on seeding on July 2nd.
But he did say it had nothing to do with the rainfall.
There you go.
Case closed.
The CEO said it.
Oh, yes.
You know, I mean, Jerome Powell said it.
The inflation people said it.
The economists said it.
There you go.
Okay, case closed.
Okay, he had nothing to do.
Do I have that answer, by the way?
Okay, then we have Math McHugh, who says no, cloud seeding has nothing to do with flooding in the east.
If cloud seeding worked that well, we sure could use some rain in the west.
The whole goddamn west is on fire.
So check out Dubai.
Dubai flooded about two or three years ago.
And even the east coast of USA.
No, no, I understand that.
But but they're a desert environment and we're a desert environment out here in Vegas.
So they came, they were out of it.
They were not cloud seeding.
And they said, we did not cloud seed, we did not cloud seed.
That's the only part where we're like, I have to agree with you because like,
if you didn't do anything, why are you denying it?
But the thing, right, but then they admitted they did.
And Dubai legit flooded.
But okay.
And yes, I
well, so here's the problem.
If you cloud seed here in Vegas, and I don't know if they know the actual percentage of rainfall
versus a percentage of material they put out.
I don't know if they're that well tuned into this because I believe it has to do with the
clouds and the moisture in the air and this and that.
If we were to get an obnoxious amount of rain here in Vegas.
So Vegas is a soup bowl.
Basically what I mean by that is if you stand anywhere in Vegas,
you can look all the way around and see mountains.
So that's, that's the soup bowl.
Well, if you've not heard this before, no, okay.
But do you agree with me?
It's just a valley.
But yeah, we're a valley.
No, no, a valley would be two mountain ranges coming together.
Not necessarily.
Well, a valley.
A valley is just a spot, a low spot among the mountains.
Right.
But we have mountains.
Okay.
Three years, right or wrong.
No, that's right.
Okay.
So if we over counted seeded, we can and because of our desert environment,
our ground does not absorb water like it does in a non desert environment.
We can legit build a soup bowl full of water.
So that's all I'm saying.
All right, let's see what's here.
Al Mugat.
All right.
Contact me, collect your money.
Okay.
He'll send you the cool man stuff.
I don't know, I need, I can get that back.
I don't care.
I actually don't need it.
Do you have any more stories?
I don't think we even really had any story.
Well, I do.
It's about the tariffs and the interest rate, but I don't want to go there anymore.
I mean, like, shut the fuck up.
Do your thing.
I'm not starting this shit again.
Well, I have a story I want to talk about.
Hold on a second.
We'll break down who gets it.
Please stop me saying interest rates, please.
No.
It is inflation and terror.
No.
So Speedcourt heard a case.
So actually, before we cover that, I wanted to bring up an Epstein thing that we missed.
So the footage of the jail cell shit.
Yeah.
Somebody, okay.
So remember I did a show a while back about when you make a photo or a video, it has data inside of it?
Yes.
Geo-tagging.
Geo-tagging is one example of the data computing.
Okay.
But for example, when I do the show, I take the raw video from your laptop.
Right.
And then I put it in an editing software and then I do some fancy stuff.
So Casper Tell, when he's here, drunk in Vegas, can't raid my house.
Right.
He's the door we are.
Right.
Okay.
But so when I do that encoding, it puts metadata saying, oh, the software that used to encode it
and some other random shit like the version and whatever.
So people analyze that the raw footage of the Epstein jail and it had been run through Adobe Premiere.
And there was like, you even had the username of the guy, his Windows username, who did the editing.
I love internet people, by the way.
So now this doesn't prove that something shady went on.
Like, I want to be clear.
So in the best world, what happened was they took the raw video and said, oh, shit, this is 200 gigabytes.
We got to compress it and they just compressed it.
Right.
That in the ideal world, that's what happened.
And that could be what happened.
But once you have that metadata and you no longer have the raw files, you don't know what happened is a problem.
Okay.
They could have done that or they could have snipped, snipped, snipped, right?
Right.
They could have done anything.
So like.
So initially it came out as one minute of video footage was missing.
Yes.
And the government agreed to that.
Yeah.
Well, the reality is it's three minutes.
Right.
And I.
It's in the timer, but the government agreed to one minute and they said, well, that's just how the camera system works.
Yeah.
It resets itself.
Right.
We can show you days and days of video.
Right.
That one minute is missing.
Right.
What about the three minutes now?
Right.
I think some of them might have set them up.
I don't know.
Well, we have the username of the guy who did it or someone's username anyway.
I don't know, but they admitted to one minute is normal and now it's actually three minutes.
So, huh, hmm, Pam Bonnie.
She ain't gonna make a night for that.
I don't know, man.
Trump's like going to bathroom bitch.
No, no, I know.
But you want to reset the appointment, right?
Yeah.
So when Pam bought, when the Senate goes on recess, he's gonna fire Pam Bonnie and bring in somebody else.
I don't know, man.
He's fucking bad.
I think he likes her.
I think he's got a little crush.
He's got a little presidential boulder for him.
At least he's not sniffing kids.
But so that was like a little, the actual story I wanted to bring up because I figured you wouldn't have been in tune to this.
It's a Supreme Court heard a case this week about a law in Texas requiring age verification on adult websites.
Uh, Utah, yeah, Utah's on something similar.
So the Supreme Court says, yeah, you can do that.
Okay.
So now all these, all these states are going to pass laws.
Well, Utah, I think Utah passed them before Texas did.
Yeah.
But somebody in Texas challenged it with something you talked about.
Yeah.
I just went to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court sided with the government.
What the fuck, man?
And that's fine.
But it's not fine.
No, it shows you how disconnected the government is.
Well, okay.
But the decision was six to three.
Which three do you think dissented on this one?
Oh, that's a great, great question.
I would think the right-leaning ones would have backed Texas.
But there's, it's, uh, do you know where they are?
Yes.
Which ones?
The, it was Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson.
They supported the bill.
No, they were, they were against the government.
Oh, they're against the age bill.
They were for free speech.
Okay.
In this one, one little, okay.
I mean, it's porn.
Like they're always going to fucking, this is the problem with Democrats is like,
they only want to be right on the fucking nastiest, worst things to support.
You know what I mean?
So, so.
And they're right.
Like why, why don't you be right on everything?
Fuck an idiot.
That's just a teenage kids nowadays are very savvy at the internet.
Yes.
And they know how to do things.
Okay.
Like my son back in the nineties knew how to get around.
Yes.
Stupid shit.
I know how to do that.
Do you think a 16 year old can get around the age verification thing?
Probably.
VPN?
Yeah.
Done.
Well, the problem is not whether a 16 year old can do that.
It's like these core porn companies are all fucking obeying and saying that you,
you, your 69 year old ass has to show us your ID to watch porn.
Well, but at this stage, you won't buy a pack of cigarettes.
You're 70 years old.
You still got to show your ID.
Well, so now you actually brought this up before.
Showing your ID is not the same as scanning your ID, right?
Well, they scan them hand in hand about it.
If you show your ID, they're scanning it.
Okay.
But you, but you brought up the difference.
You said, you yourself said, I don't mind showing my ID.
True.
I don't want to scan my ID.
Right.
And I think that's retarded.
You shouldn't have to show your ID.
I shouldn't have to.
But if I want to.
But, but here, there is a distinction there.
It's important.
Right.
So like, but the porn sites, well, you can't show your ID.
It's a website.
So how do you have to scan your ID?
Oh, that's, that's how you got to scan it and upload it and give them your ID.
So it's not like I'm 18 or.
No.
Oh, shoot.
You have to show ID.
Oh, that's the one.
Oh, exactly.
VPNs guys.
Fuck man.
It was Supreme Court.
Where you going to watch porn in Dubai?
Clarence Thomas, man, you're supposed to be fucking constitutional.
Stop.
Oh, the kids, we have to protect the kids.
It's your job to protect your kids.
Stop fucking trying to stop me from making porn.
Yeah, that's gross.
Because I'm just going to go to a fucking foreign website anyway.
I'll go fine.
Like you're not going to stop me.
Fucking idiot.
Well, we, well, we even learned it.
Yeah.
But I believe Dave just goes to AI for porn.
He likes it.
He likes something very specific and AI just gives him that specific.
Maybe it's the bottle hole.
Maybe it's something else.
It's different every day.
I wish these porn sites would just say, fuck you.
No, we're not doing it.
You come into our office and arrest us.
And then defend yourself.
You know, like stop being little bitches for fuck's sake, man.
So break the law.
So don't break the law, by the way.
You could almost, you could almost come back to the 80s on this one.
Uh-huh.
With Larry Flynn.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, there's a big court case with Larry Flynn.
He won.
And what was the defamation case though?
Well, no, he had, he had different cases.
That's what you're right.
Yeah, I was just saying, yeah.
But he, he fought for the right.
I mean, someone shot him, but I don't believe it was the government who did that.
That was just a lunatic.
You ever find a guy?
Oh, that's a good question.
I don't know.
All I know is Woody Harrelson played Larry, Larry Flynn.
That was a good movie.
That was a good fucking movie.
Oh, was it According Love?
Yes, According Love.
That's actually one of my favorite libertarian movies.
Really?
I mean, there's only like five.
So what are your five favorite libertarian movies?
I can't even probably name, I was just, I was, I can name two off the top of my head.
The People of Versatile Larry Flynn and Ghostbusters.
That's where I wanted to get into.
Why Ghostbusters?
Watch the movie.
So they work in public academia and everything sucks.
Everything's full of shit and they go into business for themselves to sell their own
Everything's full of shit and they go into business for themselves to solve a problem
and earn money.
And the government tries to stop them.
And the government is the bad guys.
Like the EPA comes in, you can't have this nuclear reactor to catch the ghost.
And then the government shuts them down.
And then because capitalism is right, the ghosts fly all over the city and it causes a big disaster.
Right?
And then the government was wrong and the capitalists have to come in and clean up the
shit.
That's a whole new vision of that movie.
That's awesome.
The real question is, every once in a while he's right.
I mean even a broken clock is right twice a day.
He's not right once a day.
But cool.
All right.
So yeah, fuck you Supreme Court.
Yeah, that's pretty shit.
Stop taking it right away.
Fucking retards.
I mean, you know, when I first heard this, I was like, who cares?
There's a way around.
They're never gonna put the gate up.
You just drive around the gate because there's no fix there.
They're not gonna stop.
They're gonna keep going.
Soon it's gonna...
But it is baby sex.
The problem is now is porn sites.
Tomorrow it's gonna be Facebook and X and social media.
Well, because that's harmful to kids.
Your car, your car, your car.
Yeah, I don't like the whole, we gotta protect our kids.
Men's is gonna be the Canary and the Cakes podcast.
You're gonna have to show us your ID to watch the Canary and the Cakes podcast.
Well, I'm not gonna fucking look.
I'm gonna be the fucking that defy, like fuck you.
I'm not gonna obey that law.
Porn sites, fucking don't break any laws, but stop obeying the law.
Fucking idiots.
Take a stand.
So...
Throw some fucking balls.
I mean porn is essentially illegal in this country.
Yeah, well sort of.
Wait, how is it not?
You can't send it through the mail.
There's a there's a vicinity, well you can't show it in public.
But Playboy's comes to the mail and Hustler's comes to the mail.
Playboy is not...
Well, Hustler...
I mean, they're breaking the law technically.
They just don't really enforce it.
Really?
Yeah.
There's obscenity law, like obscenity laws that are upheld by the Supreme Court.
Do they even make Hustler a Playboy anymore?
I don't know if they make physical magazines.
Okay.
And maybe they don't send them to the mail.
Maybe they send them through UPS or...
No, they were sent to the mail.
I mean back in the 70s, I mean UPS was barely even a company back then.
They drove around in the SWAT truck.
They're not gonna stop.
Let's them some time.
They're not gonna stop.
Fucking government.
All right, are we done?
Uh, can you...
Yep.
I'm gonna talk about him today.
I honestly, I mean, where do I start?
Where do I stop?
I know what you're talking about.
Oh, no, I just, I'm just gonna do...
You can build a house with him.
You can make hip bricks and build your house.
You can make biodiesel fuel out of him.
Nice.
So that's actually when they asked me to talk about the oil.
I probably should have wrote this up as well.
I did not have the time to do the research to see if this fuel is better for your engine than the oil is.
Um, but so I was taking a class on hemp once and the instructor basically said,
you can fly a plane made from hemp while sitting in the captain's seat made of hemp,
while wearing clothes made of hemp, while fueling the plane with hemp,
and basically everything you're in your actions in flying that plane is from hemp.
And I'll kind of double back on that in a second.
You can make clothes out of hemp.
You can make medicine out of hemp.
And this is probably the more, the more important one here,
because the reality is no one's going to make hemp bricks to build a house.
No one's, I mean, some people are, but my listeners,
we're not going to be making clothes out of hemp.
We're not going to be like spinning yarn and with looms and shit.
But the medicine is probably the most important factor we're going to have with him.
Um, and there is a lot of benefits to the CBD, not the THC,
but the CBD, there is a lot of benefits to that.
Um, then we've got, uh, food, obviously seeds, right?
Um, I, I used to, um, go to a vegan potluck.
I've never been vegan, uh, but we had friends that were,
and I wanted to support them.
I act for me to make hemp hamburgers.
I had to get my hemp from Canada.
I used to make hemp beer.
I had to get my hemp from Canada.
Yeah.
You work.
I'm going to double back that in a second as well.
Um,
Oh, yeah.
So what the fuck is that?
And there, um, the hemp plant is, it's, it's kind of a nice plan.
I was actually Googling the hemp plant to see if you can use like, um,
I wanted, I have two acres of land at one point and I didn't want to put a fence up
and I was about using bamboo,
but I can have also used hemp plants to grow the property line to kind of like,
they blend together and make a fence out of it.
The hemp would have been a lot taller and soft than the bamboo would have been.
Uh, but hemp is easier to control than bamboo, but whatever.
Uh, hemp paper, which the United States constitution is written on hemp paper.
That was on, um, uh, Ramskin.
The original one is on hemp paper.
Huh.
I, I, I, that's why you've always heard.
I mean,
this way I know they made copies on hemp.
And I thought the original was on vellum, which is lambskin.
Uh, Henry and Franklin's.
A lot of forefathers were hemp farmers.
Yeah, for sure.
Uh, you're not telling me what it is, but it says parchment.
So it might very well be.
So it was on hemp paper.
I mean, I'm not going to die on that hill.
Um, but I will say the original constitution is so known pretty well.
It's obviously being protected.
Yeah.
Uh, where if it was actually paper, maybe it wasn't.
Uh, the, the problem with him came in, uh, in 1937, they did a smear campaign on him.
And they hemp was a hemp is, is a, the process to turn hemp into paper is easier
than it is to turn wood into paper.
There's less chemicals involved.
There's less processing involved, but the guy who owned wood, who owned forest,
wanted paper made out of wood.
So he did a smear campaign on hemp, uh, linking it to, uh, marijuana.
And again, that was in 37 and in 2005 I was buying him from Canada.
So it stuck, it stuck pretty good.
Uh, the only time we've been able to start growing hemp in America again is when the
states legalized marijuana because hemp is part of the cannabis family and we were able
to grow hemp.
We're able to grow hemp now.
Um, that's one thing I, uh, it might have been a random Paul.
He wants Kentucky to turn into a hemp farby and, uh, because they were tobacco farmers.
But wait, there was a story.
I just, I just just popped it.
Um, the Montana or Wyoming, uh, the governor legalized hemp
back like in the nineties and the federal government threatened to come in and stop her
and she goes, go ahead, you'll lose.
And, uh, and they went off because they lost here in Nevada as well.
It is, it is sheepskin, but apparently like the early drafts were on hemp paper.
Okay.
The early draft.
Okay.
So, so hemp is a, is a, is a miracle plant.
It truly is.
Um, you can do a lot with it.
So, so I, I mean, because somebody had asked me to do this.
Um, but the reality is I don't know what to focus on because there's, there's so many
different things you can do with hemp.
Um, I don't know where to go, but, but again, I stick with, I think medicine or food is the
two things that are important to our listeners that we can actually utilize him for.
Can you just take each one and do a show on it?
Oh, that'd be a lot.
I could.
You'll have content.
No, no, I agree.
I, I, I actually, that may not be a bad thing because I could learn a lot more about hemp.
I've kept, you know, I, I've learned about hemp to some extent because of what, what got
my unit, what got me interested in hemp was the hemp food was one, but the hemp beer
because people, um, uh, sweet water out of Georgia made a hemp beer.
And I wanted to, I, Michael, that's interesting to me.
So I made a hemp beer and here's the fucked up thing I called sweet water in Georgia and
I lived in Chicago at the time and they couldn't have distribute there and they were the only
person making a hemp beer.
And this has nothing to do with hemp, but this has to do with beer distribution.
The, I said, I just wanted one of your beers to compare to mine to kind of see how I did.
I'm not saying it's going to be better.
I just want to see how, and the guy goes, listen, I, I can't even send you a beer for
free because you're not in a state that allows me to distribute it.
Jesus Christ.
Just fucking send it man.
Quit in the bitch.
Well, no, no, but I mean, did I ever tell you about the guy in New York with Lion and
Cuckoo beer?
Oh, I don't know.
So a guy in, in New York owned a bar and he won.
Oh yeah, you did tell.
He had Lion and Cuckoo beer and he drove from Wisconsin to New York with Lion and Cuckoo beer.
He got caught, not fined for every state line he crossed because Lion and Cuckoo beer was
not distributed in those states.
So the federal government put it in front of his neck.
It's stupid.
The guy would have been smarter to go into Canada and just come back into New York at that point.
But, but that's the thing.
So that's, that's, I mean, that's just goes to why I'm anti-government because they won't
let me grow hemp.
I can't, I can't get a beer from a certain brewery because the government says I can't.
Yeah.
So that's kind of where a little bit down that rabbit hole.
But yeah, hemp is, is a miracle plant.
There's just so much you can do out of it.
If you want me to dive deep into something, please let me know.
If not do it yourself, you'll find all kinds of stuff that you can be done with hemp.
But the coolest thing is, is like the hemp bricks, you can build a fucking house out of hemp now.
Oh, the other thing you join me.
I feel like it would be kind of fire prone.
Why is that?
It means made of plants.
Well, but if, but if it's, and I don't know this, but my guess is it's got to be in the kiln.
And they've got, they've got a fire, fire, fire, like, like ceramic.
So it's hard.
So it's got to say the weight of a house.
Yeah.
So you've got a trust system, you got a roof system, you've got, if you got a second floor
house, you got, you got that low to carry.
My guess is that it's, um, but actually I believe they said it's actually a fire resistant.
If I'm not mistaken.
Fuck.
Um, hemp bricks,
fireproof.
Let's see if it is.
Yes.
Hemp bricks are also known as hemp crete blocks are considered fire resistant.
Huh.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Um, but then, and that's the other thing I had a discussion with a guy at work.
You know, you could 3D print a house.
Yeah.
Okay.
He didn't know that he's like, we'd be like a model house.
I go, no, how should we actually live it?
Yeah.
It's not great.
You're going to have.
No, it's not a concrete.
They're going to have concrete.
Yeah, but they're not going to be as good as a, as a constructed house, but they'll be
way fucking cheaper.
No, there's a home neighborhood built out of 3D print.
I don't think we're allowed to do that yet.
Like they will.
Well, I mean, someone did it somewhere.
It may not have been in this country, but it's kind of Googling that.
I mean, like here it's, it's a budget option.
So like, but it's, but it's squirting out concrete.
Right.
So the structure and the fire resistance, it's all there.
Right.
But it's not, it's not going to be this, like for example,
you're not going to be able to have intricate wiring in the house.
Right.
Well, no.
So what you would have to do there is, okay.
Have you ever, have you ever seen the Cinderblock house?
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's made out of Cinderblock.
Yeah.
Inside the drywall.
Nope.
You're right.
Okay.
So that, that's how you hear.
Well, right.
So then like now you need to have, again, it's like, I'm not saying it's bad, right?
Yeah.
I'm saying it's going to be lower quality than a massive quality house.
I had a Cinderblock house.
But you're going to be paying way, way, way, you're going to be paying 10X less, 20X less.
Well, all I'm saying is this house was in line with the runway, oh, oh, oh, oh, airport.
If I was in my house, my windows closed, the airplane noise was minimal.
If I opened my windows up and went outside, the airplane noise was fucking obnoxious.
They only use this one particular runway, like three times a month, but those were horrible days,
except unless I kept my windows closed.
So I dug it, you know, and that's the similar thing.
You use, you do all your shit in soft bits and interior wall space.
You run your condo, you run your plumbing pipes, you run your vans, everything and all that.
So I would assume that's how a hip brick house is done or even a 3D printed house is done.
So all right, we are at hour 26.
I didn't do mine.
Oh, I thought yours was the story.
It's the print court.
Oh, go ahead.
Jesus.
All right, so I'm going to talk about licensing software today.
Oh, okay.
Because so I don't really believe in intellectual property.
So like when I write a piece of software, like I genuinely don't give a fuck what you do with it.
If you get your hands on it, right, go nuts.
I'll give a fuck.
But the problem is we live in a world where Microsoft can take my software and say, oh,
we own this and then they can punish me if I want to use it.
Huh.
Because if I don't copy right, my own shit, right, they can do that and then block me out from using it.
So this is why we have this kind of defensive maneuver of open source software licenses.
So I wanted to just go through a couple of the options and explain what the differences are.
And you know, you can see which ones you like for when you write software and then tell you
which ones I like.
So they have varying levels of permissiveness, is what they call it.
And so because I don't like intellectual property, I prefer more permissive licenses.
Okay.
So permissive means what the other user can do with it, essentially.
So the first one I'll talk about is the Creative Commons Zero license.
And that essentially releases your shit to the public domain.
So I'm not a big fan of that because public domain has
things about it that you now lose control of your own software.
So it's similar to Microsoft's deal and shit.
It's not as bad though.
So it's just a little kind of weird.
Like if something of yours is in the public domain and then you want to update it,
like how does that work?
And if somebody else wants to update it, do they own it now?
Like it's just very confusing.
So I kind of avoid that kind of stuff.
There's a cool one called Do What the Fuck You Want.
Like it's literally called that.
So it permits all use, private use, don't even have to attribute to the original author.
There's no warranty clause, which is kind of, I don't like this one too much.
And it's also never been tested in any courts.
So like no one's ever said, hey, this has a Do What the Fuck You Want license.
And I use it to murder a bunch of people.
So I can't be held responsible.
So I don't want to deal with that kind of shit.
So I always get something with a no warranty clause.
Because if someone uses my software and people die from it,
like I warned you that I don't make any promises.
If you use this incorrectly, if you use it and don't do your own thing to kill people.
Of course.
I mean like if you're running software that sounds like a self-driven car,
that can kill so much.
Fair enough.
Okay.
So then talking about the MIT license, which is the one I prefer.
So it permits all use, including private use, as long as the MIT license itself
and the attribution to the original author is included with whatever you change.
Right?
Okay.
So that way like you can't say that I bought the original author.
You can't like steal my attribution, take credit when I made the software.
It has no warranty clause.
So like again, you can't kill people with my software and then blame me.
Like oh it's Dave's fault he wrote the software.
No motherfucker, I have no liability here.
And there's the Apache license.
It's similar to MIT, but it has some additional use and copy restrictions on it.
So I didn't want to get into the fucking legal nuances.
So if you're interested in this kind of stuff, just go read the license yourself.
It's less than one page for most of them, so it's not that complicated.
Now I also want to talk about some common open source licenses that exist for retards out there
who still think intellectual property is a good thing.
Oh for me.
Apparently.
Yeah you said it, I didn't say it.
So now these are actually referred to as copy lefts.
So you're a leftist now?
You said it, right?
I didn't say it.
So the first one's called BSD.
Now there's actually several BSD licenses, so you have to read each one and say like okay,
I want the BSD version one or version two.
So but in general, they permit all use and sharing including private use as long as the user
is somewhere informed about the use of that open source software.
Okay.
So you have to be able to hit a button that says hey, I'm using Dave's open source software.
It's not too bad, but then we'll talk about the GPL which is the more common one and actually
I really don't like this one because it permits all use and sharing so long as all derivative works
are also released as open source under the GPL.
So essentially you're saying I write the software, if you use the software,
you have to release your shade open source too.
Okay.
So you can't use your software, you can't sell your software to make money.
And I think that's bullshit.
If you find a valid way to use my software and make money off it, go fucking nuts.
I don't care.
Right.
I need more power to you.
Donate to our show, donate to me personally, give me a shout out, but I don't give a fuck.
Right.
I just don't care.
I'm happy for you.
So in an ideal world, we would like to do what the fuck you want.
But like I said, I prefer MIT.
It's a widely known, it's one of the most common ones out there for open source.
It has legal precedent behind it.
So courts of law have said, yes, this is a valid license.
And it has that avoiding liability problem.
So like I said, I like MIT, but read through all of them and pick what you like.
If you know if you're retarded and you like your intellectual property, take the GPL.
And go fly the red communist flag for all I give a fuck.
But yeah, that's that's software.
It's kind of a boring topic, but I do want to bring it up.
Because a lot of people, they'll push software out with no license
and then get shocked when Microsoft steals from them.
So you actually reminded me of a story.
I used to draw in CAD.
Okay.
And I had.
You told the story.
Oh, did I?
Yeah.
The guy had the many.
Many of them.
No, I would make up if I had a if the parking lot was part of my drawing,
the parking stop, the concrete stop closest to the front door would be my name.
But you wouldn't see my name because it's zoomed out or I would do all the rough.
But yeah.
So I always hid my name in all my CAD drawings.
Yeah.
But so make sure that you're that taught me CAD told me how to do that.
If you're if you're doing open source software, make sure you pick a license.
Because otherwise someone will probably if your software is valuable,
someone will steal from you and prevent you from using it.
That's the real problem.
So in the real world, if you if you patent a product, yeah, an actual like a witch.
Yeah.
And someone goes, I can do that a little bit differently and they can change,
I believe three characteristics of the widget.
Yeah.
They can now patent that.
Okay.
Is that the same as software?
Um, I don't think so.
Software works on the copyright system, not patents.
Well, now there are like software patents, but they're more like general ideas
rather than the implementation of the software.
So this the software copyright is like, I wrote this.
But it's my changes.
It's not what you wrote anymore.
Right.
So can they take your product, take your base of a product or your software
and make it their own by changing well parameters?
They so they can they can do that under a permissive license.
Now, if you have no license at all, you're not protected.
Okay.
They could do what they want and then lie and say, we did this first, right?
They can just lie and it's very hard to prove otherwise.
Even with dates and stuff.
Yeah, they could just fake that.
I mean, they can take the F-S-T videos, they can take the dates, right?
It's all retarded.
But if you have that license there, you can at least show the date on your license.
Yeah, I got you.
It's a lot harder for them to get away with that kind of shit.
Cool.
So yeah, if you're making software, make sure you include a license because
like you don't want to get your shit stolen and then go to jail for using your own fucking
software, you know, that's definitely.
That's the problem.
Well, actually, you know what I heard about Bankhaisen today.
I thought it was kind of a cool story.
You know Bankhaisen went to jail.
Okay.
Do you know what he went to jail for?
No.
So he was, this was kind of the 90s.
He was in Indiana and a girl went back to his hotel room with him at three in the morning.
Yep.
So if you go back to Bankhaisen's room at three in the morning, what do you think's going to happen?
Twister?
Yeah, exactly.
So she twisted with him.
Did she get red?
So she claimed that she didn't want to twist her with him and she did twist her with him.
So they, again, Indiana, they blocked him up and he was doing an interview not too long ago
and he goes, and he goes, honestly, he goes, I wasn't guilty.
He goes, I was innocent.
He goes, but I did enough stuff in my life that I was guilty of that I was okay with serving the
jail time for the, but no, that's Bankhaisen, man.
I mean, he's, you know, I don't know, I didn't do it.
He's a pot farmer here in Nevada.
I believe we're in California.
He's a pot farmer somewhere around here.
And if you're in Nevada and if you're a legal state check, if you have the Bankhaisen and
Evander Holyfield, they teamed up together and they made an edible, they have an ear with a bite
out of it.
Now, do you understand that?
Yeah.
So Bankhaisen was fighting Evander Holyfield and literally bit his ear.
Everybody knows that.
Well, does everybody, I mean, then one of those things is like, I mean, it's like 15, 20 years ago.
Yeah, but everybody knows that.
Okay.
So whatever.
So they, they, they, they both, they both capitalized on it.
So thought that was cool.
All right.
Uh, I think we're done.
There we go.
See you next week.
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